Dalton to the Cowboys 1yr $7M per Schefter

[DCofNC]

I called this a solid option for Dalton, if for no other reason than putting tape together behind a good line with great weapons, hope to pull a Foles/Tannehill.  His hope has to be getting a lot of preseason action to show he still has it, Dak either holds out or gets hurt, he gets to play with a stud cast and hopefully earns a big contract next year.   Good move on his part.  

 

The only other places that made sense for a shot to earn a contract from the #2 role was going to be the Browns, Bills, Texans, Bucs, Steelers, Panthers or maybe Arizona.  The Pats have nothing for weapons, but they could win games, not the best spot for a QB to go to get a contract.  Browns and Bills both have weapons and a young qb, so injury risk is pretty low and both are pretty pot committed to their guy, so your not taking the job.  Texans, Watson gets dinged up a lot, but no Hopkins and Bellicheck wannabe over there. Bucs and Steelers are banking on old men, but good teams. Panthers are ok, Teddy hasn't played a full season in years, always a chance of injury, Arizona has mobile and tiny qb, stacked w weapons and qb friendly system, I'd go there, but have to bet on Murry getting hurt there too. 

 

All things considered,

 

Id go Bucs, but theres a cap problem.

So Arizona and Dallas are next on my list.

Whos interested and willing to pay?

 

And here we are in Dallas.

Edited May 3, 2020 by DCofNC

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

?

 

How? Because he signed a capable back up?

Rewinding back in time, I recall when Jerry has had more than one capable QB he intervened and injected QB controversy. Maybe he’ll incite drama, maybe he won’t. McCarthy doesn’t necessarily have loyalty to Dak or Andy.
 

Could be a sideshow is all. Maybe not

[NoSaint]

15 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I'm surprised he's getting paid so little, but the Patriots would have had to make their roster weaker than it already is to afford him. They're gonna roll with Stidham this year, they don't really have a choice. The only other possibility is Cam Newton and he doesn't strike me as a Belichick type at all.

Jamies signed for $1.1m

 

talk about surprises out there. NE must really not want a qb 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

15 hours ago, WMDman said:

Although I hate the cowgirls, I will always root for Dalton. Wish him nothing but the best

 

I'd love to see Dalton take Dak's job too. 

[HappyDays]

17 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

NE must really not want a qb 

 

It doesn't make any sense for them to pay a QB. They are still paying Brady $13.5 million in dead cap. Spotrac says their cap space is -$6.2 million when you account for their draft picks (yes that's NEGATIVE $6.2 million). If they cut Sanu that will bring them to $0 in cap space. They're doing the smart thing which is to accept this year as a rebuild year. In 2021 they're currently projected to have $94 million in cap space. Lucky for us I think Belichick is too good to have them tank the season and end up with Lawrence or Fields. But they look like a 6 win team at best to me, and that's only because Belichick is so good. Their roster is a 2 or 3 win roster. Even with Belichick they will be a bottom 5 team in the league IMO. Unless Stidham is way better than anyone thinks, I just don't see it.

Edited May 3, 2020 by HappyDays

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

15 hours ago, 1st&ten said:

Smart move by Cowboys.

 

Good point. Really is. 

[Motorin']

15 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Dak to Patriots*?

that would suck. Belichick and McDaniels could bring the best out of him. 

[HOUSE]

I am feeling sorry for Dak Prescott, this is a squeeze play by Jerry Jones forcing their starting QB to settle for a measly 34 million per year...

[Jpsredemption]

Buffalo really should have considered this.

[Sherlock Holmes]

3 hours ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

..........that's the same thing i ask my wife

I've finally convinced mine I'm at 7mm but with all the hair she didn't notice I cut off the first 4 from the ruler

[BuffaloBills1998]

9 hours ago, FireChans said:

Wow, the only thing BB has on Shula is a better W-L and 4 more Super Bowls. Good thing those are the only two things that matter.

No Shula has something else that BB doesn’t have and that’s integrity and real leadership. BB is a little boy compared to Shula. Shula was a leader of men. At least Shula didn’t send any of his cronies to video tape other teams practices or deflate footballs. Belichick is a scumbag cheating piece of *****. And yes I count the tuck rule as cheating as well. *****in refs all of a sudden pull a rule out of their asses that’s as never used before. I absolutely despise New England and everything it represents 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

It doesn't make any sense for them to pay a QB. They are still paying Brady $13.5 million in dead cap. Spotrac says their cap space is -$6.2 million when you account for their draft picks (yes that's NEGATIVE $6.2 million). If they cut Sanu that will bring them to $0 in cap space. They're doing the smart thing which is to accept this year as a rebuild year. In 2021 they're currently projected to have $94 million in cap space. Lucky for us I think Belichick is too good to have them tank the season and end up with Lawrence or Fields. But they look like a 6 win team at best to me, and that's only because Belichick is so good. Their roster is a 2 or 3 win roster. Even with Belichick they will be a bottom 5 team in the league IMO. Unless Stidham is way better than anyone thinks, I just don't see it.

 

The Cheaters might not have wanted Winston (or Newton, who is probably still injured).  And Winston probably saw the skill position players and said his best option was to go with the Saints, for probably the same money the Cheaters would have offered, and try to make a play for Brees' job.  Dalton got more than the Cheaters could pay, goes home, and again has a far better skill position players around him. 

[YoloinOhio]

32 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said:

Buffalo really should have considered this.

Dalton already lives in Dallas and there is an opportunity to start there if things don’t work out money wise with Dak. I can’t imagine Dalton would be interested in the backup role in Buffalo.

[1ManRaid]

I like Andy, but hate the Cowboys.  At least it's not the Patriots. 

[ALLEN1QB]

2 hours ago, nucci said:

Cowgirls? Are you guys still in high school?

 I know you are but what am I?

[y2zipper]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I could not disagree more strongly. If the Cowboys let Dak hit the market it is a colossal mistake.  

 

I strongly agree here. I don't know how they let Prescott get away.

[BuffaloBills1998]

27 minutes ago, y2zipper said:

 

I strongly agree here. I don't know how they let Prescott get away.

I can give you 35 million reasons they let Prescott get away. And also they’ll probably franchise and trade him for draft picks. There’s plenty of QB needy teams that would stupidly overpay for his services. Dak deserves around the 18-24 million range not 35 million. He’s not the kind of QB that can put a team completely On his shoulders. He’s not Marino, Elway or Kelly or even Manning

[Doc]

Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I can give you 35 million reasons they let Prescott get away. And also they’ll probably franchise and trade him for draft picks. There’s plenty of QB needy teams that would stupidly overpay for his services. Dak deserves around the 18-24 million range not 35 million. He’s not the kind of QB that can put a team completely On his shoulders. He’s not Marino, Elway or Kelly or even Manning

 

The thing is, he thinks he's worth $35M+ a year.  I don't know what team will give that to him and thus it makes trading him, much less for decent draft picks, almost impossible.

[BuffaloBills1998]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The thing is, he thinks he's worth $35M+ a year.  I don't know what team will give that to him and thus it makes trading him, much less for decent draft picks, almost impossible.

Unfortunately there will be a team that’s dumb enough to give him what he wants and immediately will allow him to put them in salary cap hell. You can’t build a team when your QB makes 35 mil+ a year. Dak is being greedy and is thinking more about himself than the team. Jones won’t put up with his BS much longer

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Unfortunately there will be a team that’s dumb enough to give him what he wants and immediately will allow him to put them in salary cap hell. You can’t build a team when your QB makes 35 mil+ a year. Dak is being greedy and is thinking more about himself than the team. Jones won’t put up with his BS much longer

 

Don't be so sure.  I don't know if any team views him as being worth $35M+.  He'll have to lower his demands.

[Punching Bag]

18 hours ago, Warcodered said:

So Dalton is out of the next apparent nightmare in NE contest who's the next candidate?

 

What are the Dolphins going to do with Rosen?

 

Trade to New England for future considerations? 

[Punching Bag]

18 hours ago, NewEra said:

I’ve been talking about this within my group of friends for months. Sign dalton.  Trade dak.  Can’t pay that guy 35 mill a year

 

Question is if they do that (which I agree with) what do they do next year and who will pay for Dak?

[BuffaloBills1998]

16 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Don't be so sure.  I don't know if any team views him as being worth $35M+.  He'll have to lower his demands.

You might be right. But as we all know teams get desperate at the QB position and I can see a team like Cleveland overpay for Prescott especially if Mayfield continues to regress like he  did last year or Chicago since neither Trubisky or Foles are the answers or hell l even Jacksonville since we know Coach Moron over there is a dead man walking and the next coach and gm they hire might not want Minschew around.

Edited May 3, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Trade to New England for future considerations? 

How many backup QBs does one team need

[NewEra]

16 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Question is if they do that (which I agree with) what do they do next year and who will pay for Dak?

Dak wouldn’t be my problem if I were dallas.  He couldn’t lead their team to the playoffs in a year before everyone got paid.  Their SB window closed with him as their QB imo.  Although I’m. A huge fan of their draft.  Cannot believe Lamb fell to them. Diggs, Gallimore (in rd 3!), Robinson, Biadasz and Anae?? That’s a great haul and might give him a shot, but I’d rather go with dalton and sign 2 12M players and extend dalton if he plays ok.  Move on and play the market/draft if not.  I’d rather have a rookie making 5 mill a year than Dak making 35

Edited May 3, 2020 by NewEra

[billykay]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

It doesn't make any sense for them to pay a QB. They are still paying Brady $13.5 million in dead cap. Spotrac says their cap space is -$6.2 million when you account for their draft picks (yes that's NEGATIVE $6.2 million). If they cut Sanu that will bring them to $0 in cap space. They're doing the smart thing which is to accept this year as a rebuild year. In 2021 they're currently projected to have $94 million in cap space. Lucky for us I think Belichick is too good to have them tank the season and end up with Lawrence or Fields. But they look like a 6 win team at best to me, and that's only because Belichick is so good. Their roster is a 2 or 3 win roster. Even with Belichick they will be a bottom 5 team in the league IMO. Unless Stidham is way better than anyone thinks, I just don't see it.

Good luck with 2 or 3 wins. They do have the #1 defense, ya know.

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, billykay said:

Good luck with 2 or 3 wins. They do have the #1 defense, ya know.

 

You won't have to go too far out on a limb to say they will not have the #1 D this coming season.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Excellent.   He’s not with the Pats*****

 

 

[HappyDays]

43 minutes ago, billykay said:

Good luck with 2 or 3 wins. They do have the #1 defense, ya know.

 

They lost Van Noy, Collins, and Shelton. Their defense will take a step back and their offense will be worse than it was last year. They have the worst QB room in the league. Like I said I wouldn't be surprised if Belichick can get them to 5 or 6 wins, but the roster on its own is really bad.

Edited May 3, 2020 by HappyDays

[BuffaloBills1998]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

They lost Van Noy, Collins, and Shelton. Their defense will take a step back and their offense will be worse than it was last year. They have the worst QB room in the league. Like I said I wouldn't be surprised if Belichick can get them to 5 or 6 wins, but the roster on its own is really bad.

This is starting to remind me when Gruden’s Bucs started to fall completely apart. I wonder if Belichick walks away at the years end and they promote Mc Daniels as the HC? Belichick is getting older and has already said he doesnt plan on coaching into his 70s. Makes sense since McDaniels never left

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

This is starting to remind me when Gruden’s Bucs started to fall completely apart. I wonder if Belichick walks away at the years end and they promote Mc Daniels as the HC? Belichick is getting older and has already said he doesnt plan on coaching into his 70s. Makes sense since McDaniels never left

 

It's coming soon.

[TheCockSportif]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Unfortunately there will be a team that’s dumb enough to give him what he wants and immediately will allow him to put them in salary cap hell. You can’t build a team when your QB makes 35 mil+ a year. Dak is being greedy and is thinking more about himself than the team. Jones won’t put up with his BS much longer

 

Jerry Jones has had decades to bring a championship back to Dallas, and has shown loyalty before business sense more times than I can count.  Here are the top 3 off the top of my head.

1. Jason Garrett.  Enough said.
2. Dave Campo had no business being HC in the NFL.  He was HC for 3 years of the Cowboys.
3. Tony Romo outlived what he could do at the position and he was still extended.

So I agree with you that overpaying a QB will put the team in salary cap hell, and when you look at teams who are in salary cap hell, the majority of them have overpaid QBs.  But we're talking about the Cowboys here.

[Captain Caveman]

19 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

You think BB needs a ready made excuse for Kraft?

 

Guy is the best coach of all time with 6 rings.?

 

He's also the guy that ran out of town the best QB of all time (who also happened to have 6 rings.)

[SirAndrew]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

They lost Van Noy, Collins, and Shelton. Their defense will take a step back and their offense will be worse than it was last year. They have the worst QB room in the league. Like I said I wouldn't be surprised if Belichick can get them to 5 or 6 wins, but the roster on its own is really bad.

Yeah, the Pats would be bad enough with that QB room, regardless of the roster. It’s made worse by the fact that BB is a terrible GM. He’s built solid defensive teams, but hasn’t built a respectable offense. Brady bailed out all of the mistakes BB made attempting to find talent on offense. Now the Pats are left without a legit QB, and almost no skill position talent on offense. 

Edited May 3, 2020 by SirAndrew

[FireChans]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

Dak wouldn’t be my problem if I were dallas.  He couldn’t lead their team to the playoffs in a year before everyone got paid.  Their SB window closed with him as their QB imo.  Although I’m. A huge fan of their draft.  Cannot believe Lamb fell to them. Diggs, Gallimore (in rd 3!), Robinson, Biadasz and Anae?? That’s a great haul and might give him a shot, but I’d rather go with dalton and sign 2 12M players and extend dalton if he plays ok.  Move on and play the market/draft if not.  I’d rather have a rookie making 5 mill a year than Dak making 35

What two 12M players would you like to see added to the Cowboys right now?

[NewEra]

25 minutes ago, FireChans said:

What two 12M players would you like to see added to the Cowboys right now?

No idea.  Watching a movie 

[billsfan89]

5 hours ago, Doc said:

 

The thing is, he thinks he's worth $35M+ a year.  I don't know what team will give that to him and thus it makes trading him, much less for decent draft picks, almost impossible.

 

Dak would have to improve his level of play to justify his contract if it was 35 million aav. And that's a big risk to pay on speculation. I think Dak is a very poor mans version of Russell Wilson his first 3-4 years in the league. He manages the game, uses his legs to get some cheap yardage and makes good plays on third down. However Dak unlike Wilson isn't as good of a passer even on the run. Wilson is a good passer in the pocket and an elite passer on the run. Dak is a mediocre passer from the pocket and very good on the run. 

 

Can Dak elevate his play? Certainly, but why would you want to pay 35 million with a 90+ million dollar guarantee to hope someone can get better to justify their contract? Dak also has played with a very good O-line, one of the best RB's in the league and a decent complement of receivers that is now stacked and a defense that has been good at times. Paying Dak 35 million means the defense has to get worse or his complementary pieces have to get worse. That's not a winning recipe. 

 

Would another team pay Dak 35 million? I don't know, there are some QB thirsty teams out there that would. Cousins a few years ago got offered 30 million and took 27 million fully guaranteed for 3 years. 

Edited May 4, 2020 by billsfan89

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

We can only hope that the Patriots trade three 1st rd picks for Dak and pay him 5 150 with 100mil guaranteed. 

[FireChans]

55 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

We can only hope that the Patriots trade three 1st rd picks for Dak and pay him 5 150 with 100mil guaranteed. 

Yeah, I would LOVE to face an accurate QB who throws 30 TD’s a year who is a mobile threat, paired with the greatest coach of all time who consistently fields good to great defenses. I mean either Jason Garrett as his HC, Dak only gave him 3 of his 4 winning seasons in 9 years. This is a great idea.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

From what i can tell - this puts pressure on Dak to report/play under the tag/negotiate a new deal. 

 

Dak lost a bit of leverage when the cowboys signed a backup with 133 career starts.  If he holds out - cowboys can still retain his rights, and they aren't wasting a year of the roster they put together.  If Dak doesn't report, there's a good chance Dalton has one of his better seasons, and comes into free agency in 2021 looking for some tannehill money.