Rumor:Miami Dolphins reportedly will give 3 first round picks to the Bengals in exchange for their 1st overall pick for Burrow.

[Billl]

1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

For one, it's definitely Burrow. Not Burrows. And for two, do you have a link, or any form of validation for this? 

 

As for the rumor itself, that would be pretty dumb, but I would probably be okay with it. I can root for him to be a bust as much as anyone else.

People can’t even spell Mahomes correctly yet.  Give them a few years to figure out Burrow.

[Freddie's Dead]

Who do the Dolphins think Burrow is?  Sammy Watkins?

[MrEpsYtown]

22 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

I don't buy it.  Chris Grier and Brian Flores are not that stupid and they know they need those picks for other positions.

While I agree with this, the Dolphins owner is stupid and could force the situation. Like what happened with the Skins and Dwayne Haskins last year. 

[Billl]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

5, 18 & 26.  Yeah.  I do that if I’m the Phins.  It doesn’t matter what else they need or get if they don’t have their QB.   Get the best one.  Burrow is by far the best QB prospect in this draft.  He’s very accurate and he’s seasoned.  He had ice water in his veins in the college playoffs and was the difference in the championship game. 

I’m a fan of his, but he’s also going to turn 24 next season.  The last 2 MVPs were younger when they won the award than Burrow is today.  What would Lamar Jackson or Pat Mahomes have looked like playing QB for LSU this season?  I’m guessing pretty good.  He’s a great prospect, but he’s not a slam dunk.

[Mat68]

4 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

While I agree with this, the Dolphins owner is stupid and could force the situation. Like what happened with the Skins and Dwayne Haskins last year. 

Lets not forget Haskins is why Burrow transfered in the first place.  If im Cincy I trade out build a foundation.  Have a dumpster fire at Qb in 2020 and put myself in position for Lawrence in 21.

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, Billl said:

I’m a fan of his, but he’s also going to turn 24 next season.  The last 2 MVPs were younger when they won the award than Burrow is today.  What would Lamar Jackson or Pat Mahomes have looked like playing QB for LSU this season?  I’m guessing pretty good.  He’s a great prospect, but he’s not a slam dunk.

 

Neither are any of the 3 picks the Bungles could, well, bungle.

[BananaSquad]

I don’t see anything making the Bengals trade Joe Burrow. You don’t trade QB prospects like this, you pick and keep them. 

[MrEpsYtown]

If I’m the Bengals I try to trade down for a haul like this, if not I just take Chase Young. I actually don’t like Burrow. I mean the dude threw 60 touchdowns, unbelievable. But just something about his game I don’t love. I just don’t think he’s going to be great in the pros. Ironically, I think its a very Andy Dalton-ish career. I’d just take Young and role with Andy. 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Didn’t know Chad Pennington even had a ceiling lol. Another QB draft bust from the Jets lol

While not a superstar, Pennington was far from a bust

[Happy]

23 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

While I agree with this, the Dolphins owner is stupid and could force the situation. Like what happened with the Skins and Dwayne Haskins last year. 

 

Ross is kind of an odd duck, but I don't think he's Dan Snyder bad.  Snyder has forced multiple disasters, Ross doesn't have that kind of track record...as far as I know.

[BuffaloBills1998]

4 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

While not a superstar, Pennington was far from a bust

No he was definitely a bust to me. He got benched a multiple times while with the jets and was kicked to the curb in 08. He fell into a good situation in Miami cause he had Ricky and Ronnie and the wild cat

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I’ll believe that when I see him in an NFL uniform playing a down on an NFL field. I still say it’s a bad move unless you know for certain that he’s gonna be Dan Marino 2.0 

He shattered every college football record playing, arguably, the toughest schedule a college team has ever played. He wasn’t playing in the MAC. Texas, Florida, Alabama, UGA, Auburn, Oklahoma and Clemson were all ranked in the top 10 when LSU beat them. That’s 7 top 10 wins!! When we question how talent will translate we shouldn’t be questioning a National Champion from the SEC West. They literally ONLY play NFL caliber players.

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

 

Unfortunately, the Bengel's organization under Mike Brown will never have "it",  so I can see a trade happening...

 

 

I don’t disagree. If a stable organization had the number 1 pick the Dolphins wouldn’t even call.

[ganesh]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

But he’s only had 1 good season, that quite a lot of picks to give up on a kid with only 1 good year on his belt

We gave up our 1st round and two high  2nd round picks to get Josh Allen.   If you truly believe in a player,'s ceiling you go for it.  

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

28 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

No he was definitely a bust to me. He got benched a multiple times while with the jets and was kicked to the curb in 08. He fell into a good situation in Miami cause he had Ricky and Ronnie and the wild cat

Jamarcus russel = bust.  A quarterback who lasted 11 years would not be defined as a bust. 

[K-9]

1 hour ago, Phil The Thrill said:

Knowing Cincy they probably will take it.  
 

But most teams would turn it down if they A. had an obvious need for a QB and B. thought a prospect was a strong solution.

 

If you need a QB, you don’t kick the cab down the road (unless you are Buddy Nic and Doug Whaley), you get your QB.  Anyone who tells you otherwise is foolish.

 

Would Indianapolis trade 3 first round picks for Andrew Luck in 2012?  Hell no!

 

Also, Cincinnati tagged AJ Green to keep Burrow happy.  They won’t take the deal.  I’ll bet you anything 

Agree entirely. If Cincy is convinced that Burrow is THE guy, then they take him. If Cincy takes that deal, great, they have three first round picks, but they don’t have the consensus best player at the most important position in sports. You take Burrow and don’t look back. 

[Malazan]

Peyton has been about the only QB in the last 20 years you could have felt sure about giving up 3 1sts for..

[JohnC]

3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He shattered every college football record playing, arguably, the toughest schedule a college team has ever played. He wasn’t playing in the MAC. Texas, Florida, Alabama, UGA, Auburn, Oklahoma and Clemson were all ranked in the top 10 when LSU beat them. That’s 7 top 10 wins!! When we question how talent will translate we shouldn’t be questioning a National Champion from the SEC West. They literally ONLY play NFL caliber players.

I don’t disagree. If a stable organization had the number 1 pick the Dolphins wouldn’t even call.

I doubt that the Bengals have any interest in trading the #1 pick to any team regardless what the bounty in return will be. And I believe it is inevitable that the Bengals are going to deal Dalton for a medium pick with the expectation that Burrow will be the starting qb. If that is the case then I doubt that Tua or Herbert would be acceptable options to play right away.

 

The worst mistake for any team to make with the first pick is to over think the situation. If the Bengals have done their due diligence and concluded that Burrow is their best qb option for the next decade then they should simply make the selection and not screw around. I say the same thing with the Redskins. If they believe that Chase Young is a Von Miller type of dynamo defensive player then take him at the two spot.

 

Attached is a 3 minute link with Tod Shay giving his thoughts on the qb issue and this draft. 

 

 

  https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Todd+McShay+Mock+Draft+2018&&view=detail&mid=6AE0065934CC7FCDABE46AE0065934CC7FCDABE4&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DTodd%2BMcShay%2BMock%2BDraft%2B2018%26FORM%3DVDMHRS

[97bills]

2 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

5, 18 & 26.  Yeah.  I do that if I’m the Phins.  It doesn’t matter what else they need or get if they don’t have their QB.   Get the best one.  Burrow is by far the best QB prospect in this draft.  He’s very accurate and he’s seasoned.  He had ice water in his veins in the college playoffs and was the difference in the championship game. 

I agree with this and don’t understand why other don’t how many years did the bills have a defense and running game and end up 7.9 if you no his your qb I would give up 3 first rounds in a heart beat because 5 years from now win your playing for the playoffs every year who cares. Qb is everything us bills fans should no that by now

[Mango]

3 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

His ceiling is a little higher than Chad Pennington’s imo 

Pennington pre or post shoulder injury? 

[Augie]

If they are really sold on their QB, you sacrifice picks. Even if it looks like over-paying. It’s the most important position in sports. I’ll just sit here and hope they get It wrong.  

[Estro]

3 Things about this rumor:

 

1. The Bengals aren't trading the pick.  

 

2. Why the hell did the Dolphins choose to play Fitz and actually win games??? If they had played Rosen the #1 pick was likely theirs.  How dumb to tank and not even do it correctly.

 

3. Joe Burrow is the real deal & I want him no where near the AFC East, so I'm thankful for pts. 1 & 2 above

[Sherlock Holmes]

3 hours ago, MJS said:

They'd better hope he isn't the 2nd coming of Marino. Marino couldn't win a Superbowl.

Laces out Dan

[TallskiWallski83]

if im cincy theres nothing you could offer me to trade the pick. Burrows had the best season of any college QB in history. You take your swing on a guy like that and if he misses (which anyone with a football IQ highly highly doubts)..so be it.

[GETTOTHE50]

43 minutes ago, Mango said:

Pennington pre or post shoulder injury? 

i couldn’t tell the difference tbh ?

[Franco_92]

Stop letting Op make rumor threads with bad titles and leaving them up unedited for hours 

[Phil The Thrill]

3 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

They might. Green is rumored to want out of Cincinnati, they lost some good free agents plus Burrow was seen liking the Miami Dolphins tweet. And Burrow was rumored to have said that he doesn’t want to play for the bengals and would pull an John Elway/ Eli Manning if drafted by them. Although that’s just a rumor idk if that’s true

Well to be fair ditka stupidly gave up everything for a RB that didn’t want to play for New Orleans lol

Want to bet it won’t happen?

32 minutes ago, Estro said:

3 Things about this rumor:

 

1. The Bengals aren't trading the pick.  

 

2. Why the hell did the Dolphins choose to play Fitz and actually win games??? If they had played Rosen the #1 pick was likely theirs.  How dumb to tank and not even do it correctly.

 

3. Joe Burrow is the real deal & I want him no where near the AFC East, so I'm thankful for pts. 1 & 2 above

All about that culture baby!  
 

Also Rosen is regarded as an All-Pro around these parts!

[ALLEN1QB]

Fitz cost them big time not sticking to the plan.

[BobbyC81]

4 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

5, 18 & 26.  Yeah.  I do that if I’m the Phins.  It doesn’t matter what else they need or get if they don’t have their QB.   Get the best one.  Burrow is by far the best QB prospect in this draft.  He’s very accurate and he’s seasoned.  He had ice water in his veins in the college playoffs and was the difference in the championship game. 

Tim Tebow was a great college quarterback who won championships. Just saying.  

[purple haze]

4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

By far, the greatest season a college QB has ever had. It wasn’t just a “good” season.

 

I would do the deal if I were Miami. If I’m the Bengals, I decline though. You don’t get a shot at Burrow in most drafts. He has “it.” 

I don't see Burrow as better than Tua if both are healthy.  From the outside, the issue with the Bengals taking a deal like this is their operation.  Could they maximize those picks?  From the inside, do they want to pay three first round picks 4-5 years from now?  I don't think they would take the deal for that reason alone.  

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

That’s ridiculous, I wouldn’t give 3 first round picks for burrows unless I knew for certain that he was the second coming. To give up that much they better hope and be certain that Burrows is the second coming of Marino lol. I think Burrows will be good but idk if he’s gonna be that good. 

 

Hope it happens from an intriguing aspect. Burrows was great lets see how he does in the NFL. I believe we will be a better team so not concerned who there QB is.

 

 

6 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

This we a rumor awhile ago. If anyone would give up the rights to the best QB prospect since Luck it would be Mike Brown.

 

Right, guy is an idiot. Wonder what they would do at QB??

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, brianthomas said:

According to the BR article, Jim Nagy said: "if Miami were to offer 3 1st rd picks, the Bengals should make that deal". It doesn't say thats what the rumor is or that Miami will do that.

They do hold 3 1st rd picks for sure, but they're not saying thats what the rumor is. Just that they're looking to move up & IF they offered all 3 then Cinci should take it.

 

Thats a bit different than "Miami is rumored to be offering 3 1st rd picks"

 

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2882393-joe-burrow-rumors-exec-says-dolphins-trading-3-firsts-to-bengals-is-too-much

 

if they could get Herbert that wouldn't be a bad trade, but its the Bengals so whoever they draft is destined for mediocrity.

 

 

6 hours ago, MJS said:

They'd better hope he isn't the 2nd coming of Marino. Marino couldn't win a Superbowl.

 

I hope he is ? 

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

 

that was the best and not wrong either, lol

 

 

6 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I don’t see Mike Brown wanting to pay three first round picks coming up for second contracts all at once.

 

that fine , he will let them all walk anyway ?

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

If I’m the Bengals I try to trade down for a haul like this, if not I just take Chase Young. I actually don’t like Burrow. I mean the dude threw 60 touchdowns, unbelievable. But just something about his game I don’t love. I just don’t think he’s going to be great in the pros. Ironically, I think its a very Andy Dalton-ish career. I’d just take Young and role with Andy. 

 

We would have cleaned up with that deal two years ago , trade back and get Allen and 5 first round picks, that would have been the best thing ever for this franchise.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

3 hours ago, Estro said:

3 Things about this rumor:

 

1. The Bengals aren't trading the pick.  

 

2. Why the hell did the Dolphins choose to play Fitz and actually win games??? If they had played Rosen the #1 pick was likely theirs.  How dumb to tank and not even do it correctly.

 

3. Joe Burrow is the real deal & I want him no where near the AFC East, so I'm thankful for pts. 1 & 2 above

 

yeah super stupid to try and win, obviously that was because of Flores but if management was smart they would have gotten rid of Fitz one way or another. Im glad they didn't though, im not afraid of Burrow but id rather he not go to the fins.

 

 

[Thurman#1]

7 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Didn’t know Chad Pennington even had a ceiling lol. Another QB draft bust from the Jets lol

 

 

If Pennington hadn't been injured, we'd have been speaking of him in hushed tones. The guy was terrific. Look up his 2002 season and compare it to other QBs that year.

 

Tore his rotator cuff twice, though, and was never again able to throw the ball with enough zip to be more than fairly effective.

 

From a "What if Pennington had never gotten hurt" article:  "The numbers partially describe how great Pennington was before he got hurt. Before that fateful game in Buffalo, he had completed 65.7% of passes in his career. He had 49 touchdowns against 22 interceptions. He had a 94.7 rating. And his team had won 19 of his 30 starts. He was averaging 7.3 yards per attempt in a span where that put you in the top five in the league. When Pennington got hurt in 2004, he was completing 68.2% of his passes with 8 touchdowns, 2 interceptions, and a 99.1 rating. The Jets were 6-1 at the time. The numbers do not tell the whole story, however. It wasn't just about them.

 

"Everybody remembers how the Patriots won three of four Super Bowls from 2001 to 2004. Not many remember what happened the one year in that stretch when they did not go all the way. The Jets came to Foxborough Week 16. The Pats, Jets, and Dolphins were in a tight race for the AFC East title. A Patriots win would have eliminated the Jets and left New England in control of its own destiny. A Jets win kept Gang Green alive and put New England in deep trouble.

 

"Pennington lit up Bill Belichick's defense that night to the tune of 22 for 33 for 286 yards, 3 touchdowns, and no interceptions. Tom Brady was 19 for 37 with 133 yards, 1 touchdown, and 1 interception. In the middle of the Patriots dynasty, Pennington went up to Foxborough in a huge spot, outplayed Brady, and carried the Jets to a win.

The next week, Pennington threw 4 touchdown passes as the Jets routed a Brett Favre led Packers team playing for the top seed in the NFC 42-17. This won the AFC East for the Jets. In the first round of the Playoffs, Pennington hit 19 of 25 for 222 yards and 3 more touchdowns as the Jets blew out Peyton Manning's Colts 41-0 before the dream season ended the next week in Oakland.

 

"When Pennington returned from his first injury in 2004, he took the Jets on the road in the first round and hit 22 of 33 for 279 yards and 2 touchdowns as the Jets registered an overtime upset win against the Chargers. A week later against the Steelers, Pennington and the Jets took over the ball on their own 24 with the game tied 17-17 and 6:00 to go. The crowd in Pittsburgh was going nuts. Facing the number one defense in the NFL and a 15-1 team, Pennington hit passes for 22 and 17 yards to get the Jets into field goal range. Doug Brien missed the kick and then another as the Jets lost in overtime.

 

"Far from being the limited guy with a ceiling, Pennington was a top statistical quarterback building a clutch big game resume. He looked like a guy headed for greatness."

 

https://www.ganggreennation.com/2013/3/27/4154264/new-york-jets-what-if-wednesday-what-if-chad-pennington-hadnt-gotten

 

Feel free to disagree, it's a fan article, but there really is very good reason to believe Pennington would have been exceptional if not injured.

 

I've always felt this way, but until this article, I hadn't remembered that even after the second operation he was second in league MVP voting in 2008 in Miami. I knew that was a good year but I didn't remember it was that good. He was going to be a player if the rotator cuff hadn't gone.

Edited March 23, 2020 by Thurman#1

[Thurman#1]

7 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Rumor:Miami Dolphins reportedly will give 3 first round picks to the Bengals in exchange for their 1st overall pick for Burrow.

 

 

Not sure I buy that rumor, but if you love Burrow and you don't believe in Tagovailoa and you aren't getting Burrow for less, it might be a good idea. Not sure all those ifs are reasonable, but it's interesting anyway.

 

Especially since they have three 1sts this year it's more reasonable. Make that trade and you then will have a first next year to start putting talent around your guy.

Edited March 23, 2020 by Thurman#1

[PetermansRedemption]

4 hours ago, Estro said:

3 Things about this rumor:

 

1. The Bengals aren't trading the pick.  

 

2. Why the hell did the Dolphins choose to play Fitz and actually win games??? If they had played Rosen the #1 pick was likely theirs.  How dumb to tank and not even do it correctly.

 

3. Joe Burrow is the real deal & I want him no where near the AFC East, so I'm thankful for pts. 1 & 2 above

Question on 3. How can you be so sure? First round QBs bust at a pretty good clip. Before last season Burrows wasn’t even in the discussion for first overall. It isn’t like this is a Trevor Lawrence type prospect. He hit a flash in the pan year at the right time. He may or may not become something good. There is no such thing as a sure thing when it comes to QB prospects in the NFL. 

[ALF]

Miami needs those picks to rebuild , especially the OL . Look how Rosen did behind it ,  but Fitz had the long experience to deal with it.

 

Bengals would be crazy to pass on Burrow , this is a rare opportunity for them.

 

 

 

Edited March 23, 2020 by ALF

[machine gun kelly]

I don’t see them giving all three 1sts as they have so many holes.  I know they still have a around $35,000,000 and picked up a SS, and Lawson.  I can see them adding a couple of role players.  They probably will go after Tua if he does well in his physical in his hometown.  When you have that many needs and three picks to grab serious talent, why not roll with Tua, and let him heal while Fitz holds down the fort in the beginning of the season whenever that starts.

 

I can see them improving faster than the Jets.  Gase is a cancer.  As far as this Bleacher report article, it was also discussed on NFLR yesterday.

[BarleyNY]

6 hours ago, ColeB said:

Tim Tebow was a great college quarterback who won championships. Just saying.  

Wow.  Do Burrow and Tebow look remotely like the same kind of player to you?  It’s not a litmus test, it’s a box that gets checked or not.  Burrow checks that one.  And just to clarify what that box is, it’s not the championship.  It’s how he reacted to being on the biggest possible stage.  At, what?  22 or 23 years old.