Turk71 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Okay, but who’s actually available for the upgrades you would like to see?? inquiring minds... There were great players available when this started but it's just not a priority evidently. There were excellent players available relatively cheap even, Glasgow and Bulaga would have been my targets, they signed for a million more than they gave DT Butler who was average and will only play part time. I think besides QB the offensive line is the most important group. If there is no push and Josh has little time to throw, which was the case last year, the weapons can only help so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Lurker said: Door number 3... Devonta Freeman? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Gordon or Gurley Gurley if he passes physical 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Turk71 said: There were great players available when this started but it's just not a priority evidently. There were excellent players available relatively cheap even, Glasgow and Bulaga would have been my targets, they signed for a million more than they gave DT Butler who was average and will only play part time. I think besides QB the offensive line is the most important group. If there is no push and Josh has little time to throw, which was the case last year, the weapons can only help so much. You realize Butler had his breakout second half after our dline coach Eric Washington took over as coordinator down in Carolina? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gambit said: Ryan is as reliable as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gambit said: Things are HEATING up, make it happen Beane 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Turk71 said: There were great players available when this started but it's just not a priority evidently. There were excellent players available relatively cheap even, Glasgow and Bulaga would have been my targets, they signed for a million more than they gave DT Butler who was average and will only play part time. I think besides QB the offensive line is the most important group. If there is no push and Josh has little time to throw, which was the case last year, the weapons can only help so much. I take it you don’t feel they will be any better as a unit after a season of playing together? I would think just having more experience as a group would increase their capacity for better play, at least that is what is touted by those that are supposed to know these things. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiezzz Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Can't say if this is true, but if it's his agent driving up the price, move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, jamiezzz said: Can't say if this is true, but if it's his agent driving up the price, move on. I wouldn't think he'd be closed off to Buffalo, he went to both HS and college in Wisconsin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Lots of chatter on Gordon to Buffalo on a one year prove it deal. With Gurley released it only should drive the price for Gordon down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, WMDman said: Garafolo just said he doesnt believe that Melvin will be a bill.... Wtf does he know... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I’d rather not sign him. Singletary is our lead back and we just picked up Diggs....let’s throw the football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, jamiezzz said: Can't say if this is true, but if it's his agent driving up the price, move on. He needs to fire his agent. He could have had $10M/yr last season before he held out. Congrats, you just played yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: I’d rather not sign him. Singletary is our lead back and we just picked up Diggs....let’s throw the football. He has 150 catches over the last 3 years and is good in pass pro-- Singletary is iffy in both those areas. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 As we saw in SF - having a stable with fresh legs and flexible based on your opponent can be a huge asset. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, Lurker said: Did I say I was opposed to spending money? Nope. I said why spend starter money on a rotational RB. When those dolars could be allocated to other needs by drafting/signing a lower cost RB. But if you can afford a better player, why not sign him as opposed to someone not as good? That was my point. You have the cap space, it seems like Beane is going all out to win now, let's get the best possible players if we have the cap to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pete said: Gurley if he passes physical This makes my knees hurt just thinking about it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I’d rather not sign him. Singletary is our lead back and we just picked up Diggs....let’s throw the football. Improving the run will open up the pass game. I'm not a huge M Gordon fan but I'm interested to see where this goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, ngbills said: As we saw in SF - having a stable with fresh legs and flexible based on your opponent can be a huge asset. lets draft a RB too. CEH fits perfect. One year prove it deal for Gordon. CEH takes over next year. We get draft comp for Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, klos63 said: But if you can afford a better player, why not sign him as opposed to someone not as good? That was my point. You have the cap space, it seems like Beane is going all out to win now, let's get the best possible players if we have the cap to do so. How do you know another RB isn't better? Or maybe as good, but $3-$4 million cheaper? High-priced RBs are a bad use of cap space, even if it is a one or two year contract. If you fill your rotational RB need and have money left to sign another quality CB or OL or WR with the savings from not signing Gordon at $6-$7 million, the team would be stronger IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, DJB said: Improving the run will open up the pass game. I'm not a huge M Gordon fan but I'm interested to see where this goes If you have two lead backs, you’ll have to feed them both....which means we will be passing less. If we hadn’t just given up a 1st for Diggs, I would be more open to Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lurker said: How do you know another RB isn't better? Or maybe as good, but $3-$4 million cheaper? High-priced RBs are a bad use of cap space, even if it is a one or two year contract. If you fill your rotational RB need and have money left to sign another quality CB or OL or WR with the savings from not signing Gordon at $6-$7 million, the team would be stronger IMO... You got me, I don't know if there is a better RB, but I've watched Gordon and many other RB's and I think he's one the better ones and I want to be sure of who we sign. He's a dynamic runner and receiver out of the backfield. Knows how to get in the endzone a lot too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: I wouldn't think he'd be closed off to Buffalo, he went to both HS and college in Wisconsin. Jesus Christ, did they move Buffalo on me??? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Miami is going after Gurley hard. I really hope we end up with Gordon. I’m ok with $8million a year. 3 year contract. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ngbills said: Lots of chatter on Gordon to Buffalo on a one year prove it deal. With Gurley released it only should drive the price for Gordon down. He'd come if the $ is ok and he likes the project. Can't see Buffalo as a great "prove it" stop with a young RB already on the roster looking to increase his usage. Edited March 19, 2020 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 51 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: I take it you don’t feel they will be any better as a unit after a season of playing together? I would think just having more experience as a group would increase their capacity for better play, at least that is what is touted by those that are supposed to know these things. Go Bills!!! I think they will be improved, I also think they need more talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: If you have two lead backs, you’ll have to feed them both....which means we will be passing less. If we hadn’t just given up a 1st for Diggs, I would be more open to Gordon. It's pretty evident this regime doesn't care about numbers or any players getting fed the ball. They care about winning 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, wppete said: Miami is going after Gurley hard. I really hope we end up with Gordon. I’m ok with $8million a year. 3 year contract. Where did you see Miami going after Gurley, haven’t seen anything yet 3 minutes ago, DJB said: It's pretty evident this regime doesn't care about numbers or any players getting fed the ball. They care about winning Idk why but McD reminds me of Lou Saban. Didn’t care about stats or how many players got fed the ball. Only cared about winning football games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Turk71 said: A good offensive line would go a long way to creating more points as well. People can pretend all they want but the Bills don't have one yet. I think the offensive line is hovering around average. The right side could use some work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, DJB said: It's pretty evident this regime doesn't care about numbers or any players getting fed the ball. They care about winning I think they do. It will take big money to sign Gordon and you’re going to do that for a part time player? It’s the exact reason why we cut Shady. Then we invested a 1st round pick on a WR to open up the passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Looks like Buffalo is really pursuing Gordon. Give him a 3 year 10 million contract. Then we officially have a 1-2 punch combo with Singletary and Gordon in our backfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: Looks like Buffalo is really pursuing Gordon. Give him a 3 year 10 million contract. Then we officially have a 1-2 punch combo with Singletary and Gordon in our backfield He's not signing here or anywhere else for 3.3 mill per season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Looks like Buffalo is really pursuing Gordon. Give him a 3 year 10 million contract. Then we officially have a 1-2 punch combo with Singletary and Gordon in our backfield Probably wanna double that cost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think they do. It will take big money to sign Gordon and you’re going to do that for a part time player? It’s the exact reason why we cut Shady. Then we invested a 1st round pick on a WR to open up the passing game. Yeah but we traded for Shady and we gave him a whole new contact after he still had 4 years left on his old deal. Shady to me was somewhat of a disappointment and we didn’t have QB when we had Shady in the beginning. Gordon could benefit for a change of scenery , plus he could definitely help Allen as well. Gordon is a threat in the passing game Edited March 19, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think they do. It will take big money to sign Gordon and you’re going to do that for a part time player? It’s the exact reason why we cut Shady. Then we invested a 1st round pick on a WR to open up the passing game. I think they do too and don't see Devon as a lead back. I don't either but get beat up for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, H2o said: He's not signing here or anywhere else for 3.3 mill per season He might have to now that he sees his market isn’t as big as he thought it would be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think they do. It will take big money to sign Gordon and you’re going to do that for a part time player? It’s the exact reason why we cut Shady. Then we invested a 1st round pick on a WR to open up the passing game. We dont know the cost for Gordon yet so it's not possible to debate whether we overpaid or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, White Linen said: I think they do too and don't see Devon as a lead back. I don't either but get beat up for it. I think with the increased workload as the season went on, I think they feel he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: Gordon or Gurley Gordon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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