Buffalo86 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 "Croom was Buffalo's top pass-catching tight end in 2018..." 22 rec, 259 yards, 1 TD 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: The Bills have serially abused/ignored the TE position for so many year that Croom's 22 career catches gets viewed by fans as "intriguing" talent.... It's reminiscent of the days when our offense ran through Scott Chandler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Nope they have a second location now at Roswell https://buffalonews.com/2016/10/17/pegula-daughters-open-health-food-spot-harborcenter/ Daddy buys his baby lots of nice things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I like the signing, and I think we have talent at tight end. Knox dropped some passes, but he also made some spectacular catches. He can block. Sweeney had some key catches. Croom is a good athlete. And he knows the system. If he's on the opening day roster, it will be because he earned it on the field. If not, it will because he did not. I can't wait to see who they sign before the draft. They're always on the prowl for talent. A good example was the signing of Jordan Phillips, cut by the Dolphins. I think Vosean Joseph is a guy who might come up and become a really good player. His drafting was no accident. We were 10-6 with this group, could have been 12-4, if they hadn't lost to the Browns and the last game meant nothing. Good season, and a lot to build upon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said: I like the signing, and I think we have talent at tight end. Knox dropped some passes, but he also made some spectacular catches. He can block. Sweeney had some key catches. Croom is a good athlete. And he knows the system. If he's on the opening day roster, it will be because he earned it on the field. If not, it will because he did not. I can't wait to see who they sign before the draft. They're always on the prowl for talent. A good example was the signing of Jordan Phillips, cut by the Dolphins. I think Vosean Joseph is a guy who might come up and become a really good player. His drafting was no accident. We were 10-6 with this group, could have been 12-4, if they hadn't lost to the Browns and the last game meant nothing. Good season, and a lot to build upon. Knox dropped an astounding 10 of 50 passes thrown to him. His 20% drop rate is ridiculously high. Who knows what this upcoming season will look like. But if Know lacks natural hand-eye coordination, that's not coachable. https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?season=2019&week=100&category=RECEIVING&opp=0&sort=10&qualified=1&sortOrder=0 Edited March 14, 2020 by hondo in seattle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Croom is signing for cheap money and he and Nate Becker will be fighting for the PS TE position. I think that's going to be a good competition and it looks like a decent player will fill the role. The other 4 are last years guys. I see no reason to expect that all 4 locked into those positions. There could be another TE move coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SWATeam Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 45 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The Bills have serially abused/ignored the TE position for so many year that Croom's 22 career catches gets viewed by fans as "intriguing" talent.... lol I'm intrigued by his physical toolbox. What I've seen with my eyeballs, not from the stat sheet. I think he has the ABILITY to challenge the seam with his athleticism and also split out wide. We'll see if he can put it together, he's far from a lock to make the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said: Knox can't catch. Kroft can't stay healthy. Smith can't get open. Croom hasn't done much in his short career and Sweeney has done even less. I'm agreement with everyone who says we need another TE option. And last year’s gem: * No Croom can catch. (Parse and punctuate at your discretion.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 5 hours ago, DJB said: Probably zero guaranteed money. I would guess, I think this is more of a camp body type acquisition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 hours ago, babulator said: I'd grade that position group a "C" at best. I unlike most of this board am not terribly high on Knox. I just don't think pro's learn to catch @ 23yrs of age. I see him as a liability in the passing game and he was 2nd fiddle to Lee Smith in the running game. I'm certain he'll make a couple of splashy plays again this year and this board will go crazy over his potential. I don't want bash him, and I hope he proves me wrong, but until then this group is a "C". I still think the real gem here may be Sweeney. I'm disappointed we didn't see more of him last year and I hope he gets more opportunities this year. Go Bills! Watch some file of Rice's rookie year, then come back.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: The Bills currently have 5 TEs under contract Cuts will be made before next season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: Watch some file of Rice's rookie year, then come back.... Here's to hoping Dawson Knox can mirror the greatest WR of all-time. Also while JR had a tough rookie season, he didn't learn to catch in the pro's. He was one of the most prolific college receivers of the time. 66 balls as a sophmore, 102 as a Jr, and 112 his senior year. " He became a standout receiver and acquired the nickname "World" due to "his ability to catch anything near him." Again, Im not bashing Knox but it's not exactly apples to apples. JR had more catches as a college sophmore than Knox has had in sum total of his Career at this point. Edited March 14, 2020 by babulator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) A TE will be targeted in free agency. Franchise tags have impacted the available selection ( they always do) , but the interest in Olsen shows the need is going to be addressed. If FA is unsuccessful the draft is another option, but it seems they would prefer a veteran here. With Allen entering the all important third season, a ready made target is a necessity. Croom is just covering the bases if all else fails. Edited March 14, 2020 by Boatdrinks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Camp reps. Gets to make a few bucks before he gets IRd for the season. Knox is gonna breakout in a big way this year! Watch out for Sweeney too. Bills are fine at TE. Olsen would have taken reps but he was sought as much for Knox development as he was for starting TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: The Bills currently have 5 TEs under contract Excluding Knox is there any of the 4 remaining that pose a threat to opposing defenses? I'm all in on the McBeane regime and I know it's early but the way they address the needs of receivers on the team is head scratching. We're good in defense guys! Let's get Josh weapons! Instead we're signing the owners boyfriend-in-law? C'mon Man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 42 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: Cuts will be made before next season... I’m aware just interested to see if they add any more and how it shakes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Excluding Knox is there any of the 4 remaining that pose a threat to opposing defenses? I'm all in on the McBeane regime and I know it's early but the way they address the needs of receivers on the team is head scratching. We're good in defense guys! Let's get Josh weapons! Instead we're signing the owners boyfriend-in-law? C'mon Man! I agree but they also need 90 camp bodies. That's why they brought Croom back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Excluding Knox is there any of the 4 remaining that pose a threat to opposing defenses? I'm all in on the McBeane regime and I know it's early but the way they address the needs of receivers on the team is head scratching. We're good in defense guys! Let's get Josh weapons! Instead we're signing the owners boyfriend-in-law? C'mon Man! There is a timeline of when certain things can be done in the league year, and this signing simply follows that timeline. Free agency hasn’t even started yet. The GM has to cover all his bases. Don’t confuse actions taken just because they can be done now with actual priorities and their place in that hierarchy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 6 hours ago, BillsFan17 said: I'll be damned if I still didnt want at least one better option. Not a fan of Kroft or Smith being on the roster. Know its very likely they are both back, but the way they sniffed around Olsen, makes me wonder if they sniff around Walker. Out of the five..Smith is by far our best blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 6 hours ago, BillsFan17 said: I'll be damned if I still didnt want at least one better option. Not a fan of Kroft or Smith being on the roster. Know its very likely they are both back, but the way they sniffed around Olsen, makes me wonder if they sniff around Walker. I really felt Olsen was a favor for a friend thing. Probably the only one. But i would hardly think they are All Set at TE in their minds. 6 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Maybe L. Smith is a casualty after all. Why ? Croom cannot block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 hours ago, SWATeam said: I guess I’m the only one who sees Croom as an intriguing talent. Obviously needs to stay healthy, but it looked to me like he was developing in 2018 Nope , i have had some hope. He was improving a bit as a Pas Catcher. They were lining him up outside and running WR routes imo. But losing him for a season seemed it should be the end of his run with the Bills. Very little hope for him to make the roster. But i do have some he had his head in the playbook and studying film with Allen maybe even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Out of the five..Smith is by far our best blocker. Its true. and he sets the tone for nasty. LBs and safeties likely know where he is if they are coming downhill. so much vitriol for Smith. Yes , all those unforgivable penalties are very hard to tolerate, and that is reason enough to move on from him. But he certainly does block with attitude. Opposite of Croom really. who is the next best run blocker at TE ? Probably Knox ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: I really felt Olsen was a favor for a friend thing. Probably the only one. But i would hardly think they are All Set at TE in their minds. Why ? Croom cannot block With 5 TEs in camp already and on the lookout for more I could easily see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Out of the five..Smith is by far our best blocker. He is by far the most likely to draw a flag on a critical 3rd down conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: He is by far the most likely to draw a flag on a critical 3rd down conversion. just one of his qualities lol. 14 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: With 5 TEs in camp already and on the lookout for more I could easily see it. the way they have Kroft structured and Croom now? they could easily let one or both go. Not sure about Smiths contract. But thought they paid him well initially ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Kelly can’t pay for every meal... She still is, just indirectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Cripple Creek said: You're lying. Nope...its pretty good too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: The Bills currently have 5 TEs under contract ? I count four, plus croom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Out of the five..Smith is by far our best blocker. Not if he is commits a penalty every time he's out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 There'll be more TEs on the horizon if Knox doesn't break out this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 You know that (a) it’s the offseason and (b) the Bills are a decent team when people are “up in arms” over a 1-yr cheap-as-stojan signing of a depth TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 5 hours ago, SWATeam said: lol I'm intrigued by his physical toolbox. What I've seen with my eyeballs, not from the stat sheet. I think he has the ABILITY to challenge the seam with his athleticism and also split out wide. We'll see if he can put it together, he's far from a lock to make the team. Wow, you must have a very keen eye or access to All-22, because he has 387 career snaps, and 35 targets in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) he's not a good football player but he's seems to be a great plumber Edited March 15, 2020 by Starr Almighty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Wow, you must have a very keen eye or access to All-22, because he has 387 career snaps, and 35 targets in his career. Yes, very keen... And I'm sure you can understand that we've been able to observe him in training camp and preseason, along with his 387 snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 34 minutes ago, SWATeam said: Yes, very keen... And I'm sure you can understand that we've been able to observe him in training camp and preseason, along with his 387 snaps. Oh yeah? "Croom went undrafted in the 2017 NFL Draft. On May 5, 2017, he was signed by the Buffalo Bills. On August 20, he was cut. One day later, he was placed on injured reserve with an undisclosed injury, but was removed four days later and was cut once more. On November 1, he was added to the practice squad. On January 8, 2018, he was signed back to the team" so...no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Oh yeah? "Croom went undrafted in the 2017 NFL Draft. On May 5, 2017, he was signed by the Buffalo Bills. On August 20, he was cut. One day later, he was placed on injured reserve with an undisclosed injury, but was removed four days later and was cut once more. On November 1, he was added to the practice squad. On January 8, 2018, he was signed back to the team" so...no. I have no idea what this means. We saw a good amount of Croom in the lead up to, and into, the 2018 season. My point was simply that I see potential in Croom's skill set. But carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) Just now, SWATeam said: I have no idea what this means. We saw a good amount of Croom in the lead up to, and into, the 2018 season. My point was simply that I see potential in Croom's skill set. But carry on. Pretty simple....he's had one pre season and camp. As I said... Anyway, he's a rarely used, often injured bench warmer on a team with scant talent at WR. Edited March 15, 2020 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Pretty simple....he's had one pre season and camp. As I said... I'm confused. Did I say something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I like croom. I think hes better than sweeney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, SWATeam said: lol I'm intrigued by his physical toolbox. What I've seen with my eyeballs, not from the stat sheet. I think he has the ABILITY to challenge the seam with his athleticism and also split out wide. We'll see if he can put it together, he's far from a lock to make the team. I agree. Go look at some of his highlights. With josh actually being able to throw down the seam and into soft spots in the zone croom may be decent. Hes kind if clay like from an athletic standpoint...which isnt saying much but he could be better depth than Kroft. https://www.buffalobills.com/video/jason-croom-catches-for-a-26-yard-gain Edited March 15, 2020 by Hebert19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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