Kirby Jackson Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On the eve of the legal tampering period I thought this would be a fun topic. We’ve been bantering for months as to what we wanted this offseason. The goal of this exercise is to add one player to the Bill. The catch is that you have to factor in the cap number. As an example I think all of us would prefer Amari Cooper to Taylor Gabriel. Would you prefer Cooper at $20M a year to Gabriel at $5M? The goal is to add one player or re-sign one player at a realistic number. If the Bills only issued 1 more contract this offseason what would you want it to be? That doesn’t necessarily mean that it has to be the biggest impact player either. It has to be the best “bang for the buck.” What’s the most impact that you can have for the least amount of $$? I will go first and say Robby Anderson at 4 years $45M with $22M guaranteed. Anderson is 26 and has the upside of a number 1 WR imo. He immediately makes the WR room better and more complete. At the same time he’s going to cost just over half of what Cooper does. You can still add a guy in the draft but the urgency to do so is less. I expect the Bills to add 1-2 guys in or above this price point. Anderson for me would be my target. Who is it for you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 The best bang for the buck would be to pay Tom Brady for a year. Don’t play him, just get him out of NE. 3 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Vic Beasley at 4yrs $30M I think he splits time with Shaq and can perhaps upgrade the monster position left by LoZo. Dante Fowler is another guy I like but he may be overpaid and I think Beasley is better value. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) I wouldn’t mind Anderson, at the $ you lay out, as long as we are still drafting a WR early. He’s a guy who would make our offense a big play machine, opposite Brown, if Allen gets his deep ball figured out over the summer, and obviously hurts the Jets. Edited March 14, 2020 by SCBills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Kirksey on a one year prove it deal. If the kid returns to form, stays healthy, and shows out, we can always look to resign him. Spain is a good example of the prove it deal benefitting both sides admirably. 1 minute ago, SCBills said: I wouldn’t mind Anderson, at the $ you lay out, as long as we are still drafting a WR early. He’s a guy who would make our offense a big play machine, opposite Brown, if Allen gets his deep ball figured out over the summer, and obviously hurts the Jets. I doubt with Anderson's checkered past that hed fit with McDermott/Beane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Melvin Gordon. 4 years, $28m. Josh is still on the unconventional side. Best way to improve the offense is to give him a top RB. Need to add a vet to Singletary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Quinton Spain 5 million per 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 coach McD has 1 opening at the SAM LB where the 1 man gang (Lorax) played 48% of snaps and often lined up as DL, was replaced often with the nickel package and he also played ST and had a very reasonable contract (and was a team captain and one of the NFLPA reps) in other words a tough role to fill...prediction...not a first day FA signing here....prediction: Kyler Fackrell OLB (packers) had 3 sacks against Bills season before last; lost his starters job last season so there is a flaw; likely not a good coverage guy not unlike Lorax who also had warts.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Matt Feiler on RFA offer sheet for $8M/year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Matt Feiler on RFA offer sheet for $8M/year How did I know you were going to say that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Cameron Wake - I think he still has enough left in the tank to help out the D's pass rush . 1 yr $2 mill . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: The best bang for the buck would be to pay Tom Brady for a year. Don’t play him, just get him out of NE. How do you convince CFL to agree to sign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Shaq Lawson - 4 years 32 million. Lawson seems to be getting better every year and I have a feeling that this could be Hughes final season in Buffalo. Kirksey - Don't overpay for him but don't throw a stupid low offer for him. 3 yrs 15 million maybe. Edited March 14, 2020 by frostbitmic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: The best bang for the buck would be to pay Tom Brady for a year. Don’t play him, just get him out of NE. He'll probably be gone. He's been griping about skill position players and the Cheaters won't be able to get him any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Robert Quinn or Kenyan drake. Drake probably comes in around 5 mil and we can have a serious dual threat in the backfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 WR Rashard Higgins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 It’s not the eve of the legal tampering period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 34 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: It’s not the eve of the legal tampering period. Touché, that’s tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Me, I only need a few Applebee's drinks as well as an appetizer and I'm good to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: How do you convince CFL to agree to sign him? Send Giselle to a Toronto night club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: WR Rashard Higgins Right!?! All this guys does is dominate every time I turn on a browns game. I don’t know if he wants to be the 4th wr on our team. While I really like his game, we’re going to add a WR better than him (or else!), which puts him is the unenvious position of being the 4th WR on the Bills offense. whoever gets him, will likely be getting a bargain imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: Robert Quinn or Kenyan drake. Drake probably comes in around 5 mil and we can have a serious dual threat in the backfield These 2 would be some of my preferred signings. Also maybe Perriman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 27 minutes ago, NewEra said: Right!?! All this guys does is dominate every time I turn on a browns game. I don’t know if he wants to be the 4th wr on our team. While I really like his game, we’re going to add a WR better than him (or else!), which puts him is the unenvious position of being the 4th WR on the Bills offense. whoever gets him, will likely be getting a bargain imo Rookie WR's are tricky. You don't know if he'll impact right away. I don't think the Bills will aggressively add a top WR. We'll probably see 2 added though. Our best way to improve WR's production is Josh Allen development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: Melvin Gordon. 4 years, $28m. Josh is still on the unconventional side. Best way to improve the offense is to give him a top RB. Need to add a vet to Singletary. Isn’t he looking for Bell-type money? Regardless, just say no to expensive RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Isn’t he looking for Bell-type money? Regardless, just say no to expensive RBs. What he’s looking for and the reality are two different things. Can’t see anyone giving him nearly that. He’ll be lucky to get 10 mill a year imo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, frostbitmic said: Shaq Lawson - 4 years 32 million. Lawson seems to be getting better every year and I have a feeling that this could be Hughes final season in Buffalo. Kirksey - Don't overpay for him but don't throw a stupid low offer for him. 3 yrs 15 million maybe. Lawson had 6.5 sacks while only on the field 49% of the time. Do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 minute ago, NewEra said: What he’s looking for and the reality are two different things. Can’t see anyone giving him nearly that. He’ll be lucky to get 10 mill a year imo Of course, and anyone dumb enough to pay a RB $10m+ deserves the mess they create, but the suggestion of 4/$28 seems unrealistic to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 52 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said: Lawson had 6.5 sacks while only on the field 49% of the time. Do the math. He racked up a bunch of tackles for a loss too. I think he could be better than any DE on the market. Plus he's healthy and in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Breshad Perriman, 6'2" 215lb 4.24 40 Former first round pick starting to click. 6 tds last season in just 36 rec. 17.9 yds/rec was tied for 4th with Diggs 69 targets 0 drops. His dad Brett Perriman played 10 yrs and had 108 catches 1488 yds in '95 with Detroit. I think he is ready to tear it up. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: On the eve of the legal tampering period I thought this would be a fun topic. We’ve been bantering for months as to what we wanted this offseason. The goal of this exercise is to add one player to the Bill. The catch is that you have to factor in the cap number. As an example I think all of us would prefer Amari Cooper to Taylor Gabriel. Would you prefer Cooper at $20M a year to Gabriel at $5M? The goal is to add one player or re-sign one player at a realistic number. If the Bills only issued 1 more contract this offseason what would you want it to be? That doesn’t necessarily mean that it has to be the biggest impact player either. It has to be the best “bang for the buck.” What’s the most impact that you can have for the least amount of $$? I will go first and say Robby Anderson at 4 years $45M with $22M guaranteed. Anderson is 26 and has the upside of a number 1 WR imo. He immediately makes the WR room better and more complete. At the same time he’s going to cost just over half of what Cooper does. You can still add a guy in the draft but the urgency to do so is less. I expect the Bills to add 1-2 guys in or above this price point. Anderson for me would be my target. Who is it for you? I'd def take this over Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Robby Anderson has too many off field issues imo. I sign AJ Green and take the high risk high reward option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Turk71 said: Breshad Perriman, 6'2" 215lb 4.24 40 Former first round pick starting to click. 6 tds last season in just 36 rec. 17.9 yds/rec was tied for 4th with Diggs 69 targets 0 drops. His dad Brett Perriman played 10 yrs and had 108 catches 1488 yds in '95 with Detroit. I think he is ready to tear it up. ? Please don't pay the Perriman. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Please don't pay the Perriman. Don't even fix a price? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Turk71 said: Breshad Perriman, 6'2" 215lb 4.24 40 Former first round pick starting to click. 6 tds last season in just 36 rec. 17.9 yds/rec was tied for 4th with Diggs 69 targets 0 drops. His dad Brett Perriman played 10 yrs and had 108 catches 1488 yds in '95 with Detroit. I think he is ready to tear it up. ? 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said: Please don't pay the Perriman. I’m usually a gambler on high ceiling guys. Perriman to me is just too risky. He played great last year but I wonder if it is more Arians offense? I wouldn’t hate it because he has a high ceiling (and speed) but he scares me some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Don't even fix a price? Right you are Doc! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I’m of the mind to fortify the D in FA, then focus draft on O. Go for Clowney and Reader. Trade back in R1 for a third, then draft 2WR, OT, and RB in first 3 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 We really need to improve the offense. Give Allen more options. I'd really like a TE like Hooper. A healthy Hunter Henry would've been really nice but he got tagged. Melvin Gordon could be an interesting buy low if his market isn't what he expected. Robby Anderson is another guy that could prove to be a quality signing depending on money. He seems to have calmed down since his arrest a few years ago. Allen has improved as has his supporting cast. To really see if he has what it takes to get to the next level we need to give him a bit more to work with. Our run game was pretty bad. Our o-line seems to have some continuity and should get some more depth this offseason. We lack a couple of playmakers. A good TE and RB would really open up our offense imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, TC in St. Louis said: Lawson had 6.5 sacks while only on the field 49% of the time. Do the math. STOP quoting this crap!!!! They put him out there in play combos where they maximized his strengths and downplayed his multiple weaknesses. How many times did he get sacks off the edge? How many times did he get clean sacks? ZERO. He gets clean-up sacks due to our secondary just like Phillips did. If he was so good he would have gotten more snaps. For god sake he was competing against Murphy ! He didn't get more plays because he didn't deserve them. He can take his overpaid butt out of Buffalo. If I am paying someone over $10 Million, it better be someone who can get around the edge and can't be blocked by a TE! Shaq is average. He has always been average and he will likely be no more than average or a little above average. The fact he is whining about playing time means he isn't a team player. I don't want him here. Go play for some me, me team like the Raiders. Edited March 14, 2020 by Locomark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’m usually a gambler on high ceiling guys. Perriman to me is just too risky. He played great last year but I wonder if it is more Arians offense? I wouldn’t hate it because he has a high ceiling (and speed) but he scares me some. That's understandable, I just think his ceiling is way up there and the timing is just right on his learning curve. I have no idea what the price would be but if it is reasonable I think he is well worth the risk. I fully expect them to draft a wr somewhere in the top 3 rounds but counting on a rookie to step right into the starting lineup and have an impact is risky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 To me if I'm dropping big bucks it is on a RT. The rationale is offensive lineman keep their playing standard for longer periods of time so you can give people 5-6 year deals. I don't think they will though. I think DE pay is tricky. They tend to peak in their late 20s and then taper off. So its hard to want to drop good money on a big name 26 year old DE hoping they will be good into age 30-31. It isn't always a given. There are plenty of value signings available at DT (Michael Pearce or Jarran Reed), LB, and CB and I think we add value signings at all those areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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