Motorin' Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: What the hell is wrong with this thread? Josh Allen only started one year in college? Comparing Burrow and Tebow? Joe Burrow thinks he has leverage? Weird. And John Elway and Ken O'Brien were the first two qb's taken in the 1983 NFL draft. 6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: There was no Philip Rivers the year Elway came out either. The next QB picked was Ken O'Brien at #24. And yeah, Elway had the theoretical chance of going to baseball instead but he was never likely to do that. These guys can take a year off and try again. It's not total control by any means, but it's leverage. So Ken O'Brien was drafted before Jim Kelly and Todd Blacklidge and there was no Dan Marino in the 1983 draft? It's bizzaro day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: It honestly sounds to me he wants to play for the Bills. Anyone else decipher it that way? How else could it be interpreted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 9 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Correction. Josh Allen had zero good years of football. Ever. At any level. You beat me to it! Something about a cheek and a tongue....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 No, Joe, you don’t. You can play for the team that drafts you or sit out a year and be labeled a brat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 he needs to have a no franchise tag clause to keep the pressure on them. So he essentially gives them like 4 years to get it together cause i doubt they'd keep him for the fifth year if he was just going to walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 6 hours ago, BigBillsFan said: Solid is not the greatest season in college QB history. Tim Tebow has perhaps the greatest career out of any college QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: Tim Tebow has perhaps the greatest career out of any college QB Colt Brennan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBillsFan Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 32 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: Tim Tebow has perhaps the greatest career out of any college QB Apples and oranges. Tebow was a rushing QB. Burrow literally threw the ball better than anyone in college history for 1 season. That's not solid, that's spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Colt Brennan this popped into my head as well. i'm not making any comparison to burrow, but i do remember him having gaudy numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, teef said: this popped into my head as well. i'm not making any comparison to burrow, but i do remember him having gaudy numbers. Crazy numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Maybe he is going to the XFL for "leverage", hope his leverage doesn't go under before the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Maybe he’s a physics major? ? Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Gugny said: I remember Tebow being an awesome college QB. Don't even the best SEC QBs usually not do very well in the NFL? and now he is one of your best minor leaguers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: and now he is one of your best minor leaguers. Perhaps you're not aware of how much this topic pisses me off. And if you were already aware, then you're a bad person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 13 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: That's not a guarantee. He isn't a generational prospect, not even close He was the oldest person on the football field every single time he stepped on it last year.. it took him 5 years to put it together He is nothing like an Andrew Luck prospect Interesting. Son of a NFL player and long-time college DC. I bet he’s freakin’ “Catnip for Coaches” on the whiteboard and the film room. As a draftee, he’s the same age as Allen is having played in his 2nd NFL season. 3 years at Ohio State, 2 years at LSU. Take a gander at his Wiki. I’m sure he’s a great kid and a great prospect, but that thing HAD to have been written by professional publicists. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: There was no Philip Rivers the year Elway came out either. The next QB picked was Ken O'Brien at #24. And yeah, Elway had the theoretical chance of going to baseball instead but he was never likely to do that. These guys can take a year off and try again. It's not total control by any means, but it's leverage. The next QB picked was Jim Kelly. That 1983 draft also had Todd Blackledge, Tony Eason, and Dan Marino. It was in all the papers, you can look it up. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) Guess it’s a lock that they are taking him? Billy Price just said on Columbus radio that it’s great playing with Sam Hubbard, mike Jordan, and soon Joey Burrow. He was completely serious. I mean everyone is expecting it but they haven’t announced it. Edited February 18, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Mann Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 True or not, I don't see where this kid has much leverage. What's he going to do, sit a year if the Bengals draft him? He's already an older college guy, that extra year isn't going to help. Then what? He comes out in the draft with Trevor Lawrence, and Burrow is not guaranteed of getting picked first anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 16 hours ago, Gugny said: I'm no college football fan, but it seems to me this kid only had one solid year as a starter. But what a year! Simply put Joe Burrow had the single greatest season at QB in the 150 year history of college football. And it's not close. * 60 TD passes and only 6 INT's * Over 6,000 total yards. * SEC title, College Football Championship and Heisman trophy winner. And Burrow accomplished this playing arguably the toughest schedule in college football history. His biggest games also came against the best competition in the most important games. And for the record Burrow had a solid season in 2018 which was his first as a starting QB. In fact check out his games from late in that season, particularly the New Years Day Bowl game against #6 CFU (4 TD passes) and you'll see Burrow was flashing signs of what was to come in 2019. Burrow did not have a bad game in 2019 - that's 15 games. In fact Burrow did not have a bad half this past season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 From 5th round pick to positioning himself at the top of the 1st, in one year. And he never attended a class at LSU (online graduate courses). That doesn't seem right to me (definition of student-athlete?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, par73 said: From 5th round pick to positioning himself at the top of the 1st, in one year. And he never attended a class at LSU (online graduate courses). That doesn't seem right to me (definition of student-athlete?). It's stupid that you have to graduate to transfer and be immediately available. The idea was that if you were a good student, and graduated early or whatever, you could pursue a graduate degree in the field of study where it might make more sense from an educational perspective. Not - i need to transfer to play football and attend minimal classes to meet NCAA requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) He only has the leverage the Bengals want to give him, otherwise he has no leverage. Edited February 18, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, dneveu said: It's stupid that you have to graduate to transfer and be immediately available. The idea was that if you were a good student, and graduated early or whatever, you could pursue a graduate degree in the field of study where it might make more sense from an educational perspective. Not - i need to transfer to play football and attend minimal classes to meet NCAA requirements. This archaic rule is finally going away.D1 student-athletes in all sports could have the opportunity to compete immediately after transferring one time if a proposed change to waiver guidelines is adopted by the NCAA this spring. http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-transfer-waiver-working-group-seek-feedback-waiver-expansion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 16 hours ago, Gugny said: I'm no college football fan, but it seems to me this kid only had one solid year as a starter. Solid or unbelievable? Cam won the national championship one year and was a top pick of the Panthers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: This archaic rule is finally going away.D1 student-athletes in all sports could have the opportunity to compete immediately after transferring one time if a proposed change to waiver guidelines is adopted by the NCAA this spring. http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-transfer-waiver-working-group-seek-feedback-waiver-expansion Good - i mean good for burrow graduating in 3 years etc. But if his goal is to play professional football, why does the NCAA hold him back? There's no pathway to the NFL that doesn't go through the NCAA so... figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 8 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: seems 2 of the 3 did well thus far. I wasn’t saying otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 17 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: What leverage? There's no "Philip Rivers" going in the top 4 with him.... If Tua checks out medically then there will be a few who make the argument he should be the first pick. Burrow does have some leverage in the sense that if he comes out before the draft and says he'll play for any team but the Bengals because they have a horrible owner. You could see an Eli Manning/Phillip Rivers type trade happen then between the Bengals and whatever team picks Tua. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Geez, the kid fends off 2 bad guys when he's left Home Alone over the holiday season and now seems entitled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: If Tua checks out medically then there will be a few who make the argument he should be the first pick. Burrow does have some leverage in the sense that if he comes out before the draft and says he'll play for any team but the Bengals because they have a horrible owner. You could see an Eli Manning/Phillip Rivers type trade happen then between the Bengals and whatever team picks Tua. You would be assuming that the Bengals would want Tua that high and that another team would pick him that high. This isn't a Manning/Rivers scenario. Burrow's dad isn't Archie Manning either--in fact his dad said Burrow would be happy to play for the Bengals and his mom is still saying she doesn't "know where this is coming from" that he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: You would be assuming that the Bengals would want Tua that high and that another team would pick him that high. This isn't a Manning/Rivers scenario. Burrow's dad isn't Archie Manning either--in fact his dad said Burrow would be happy to play for the Bengals and his mom is still saying she doesn't "know where this is coming from" that he doesn't. That's why I used the declaimers "if he checks out medically" and "could." We'll get a better picture after the pro day and combine. Edited February 18, 2020 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 13 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: There was no Philip Rivers the year Elway came out either. The next QB picked was Ken O'Brien at #24. And yeah, Elway had the theoretical chance of going to baseball instead but he was never likely to do that. These guys can take a year off and try again. It's not total control by any means, but it's leverage. This has totally confused me. I’m sure you’re making a point, but I’m missing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: That's why I used the declaimers "if he checks out medically" and "could." We'll get a better picture after the pro day and combine. No one is not going to clear him--by all account he's doing great. But no one is hitting him either, nor will they be any time soon. 14 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: There was no Philip Rivers the year Elway came out either. The next QB picked was Ken O'Brien at #24. And yeah, Elway had the theoretical chance of going to baseball instead but he was never likely to do that. These guys can take a year off and try again. It's not total control by any means, but it's leverage. #epicfailpost lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: and now he is one of your best minor leaguers. Evabody ❤️ they T–?! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Leverage. LOL! Go sit out a year playing minor league ball and/or watching Trevor Lawrence take your #1 overall in 2021. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Leverage. LOL! Go sit out a year playing minor league ball and/or watching Trevor Lawrence take your #1 overall in 2021. He won’t sit out. But he’s been a lot better than Lawrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 19 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: "I'd like to play football," Burrow said at a news conference. "So whoever takes me -- I'm a ballplayer, I'm gonna play." Doesn't sound very concerned about "leverage" there. During the buildup to next week's scouting combine in Indianapolis, questions regarding Burrow's willingness to play for the Bengals have been the topic of media speculation. Burrow's mother, Robin, told the Star-Telegram on Monday that she was unaware of how that narrative originated. "We have no idea where that comes from," Robin Burrow told the Texas newspaper. "It's a story out there that someone has created that doesn't have any substance -- from our perspective at least." Makes me kind of wonder if the press specifically asked him some questions about leverage so they could create their narrative. Or maybe despite what his mother and father have said, there's some fire under the media smoke ?♂️ Is it possible ... even conceivable ... that his mother is lying through her teeth? My guess is that the whole family is blinded by $ signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He won’t sit out. But he’s been a lot better than Lawrence. Last year sure. His 2018 season wasn't anything special. And Lawrence will be playing in 2020 whereas Burrow will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: He won’t sit out. But he’s been a lot better than Lawrence. If Lawrence was available hands down he would be the #1 pick without question Same if we was eligible last season The age difference makes ALL the difference to the scouts. Burrows looked like a phenom at 23, Lawrence 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, notwoz said: Is it possible ... even conceivable ... that his mother is lying through her teeth? My guess is that the whole family is blinded by $ signs. Of course it's possible, but if the whole family is blinded by $ signs wouldn't that include Burrows? Absent evidence to the contrary, it always seems easier to me to assume that people pretty much say what they mean, and mean what they say. Assuming that someone is lying through their teeth, absent some kind of evidence, is like hearing hoofbeats and thinking of Zebras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, notwoz said: Is it possible ... even conceivable ... that his mother is lying through her teeth? My guess is that the whole family is blinded by $ signs. He will be on a rookie contract no matter where he ends up. What point are you trying to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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