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Draconator, you may be right.  I know Mahomes won that game in the end, but he uncharacteristically had a mediocre game if you look at all those bad throws.  He normally plays much better and has a lot more weapons than us.  Tre already has shown in our hearts is the best CB in the league (I’ll take him over Gillmore any day), but the key is with a ton of new weapons, will Allen become the man?

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3 hours ago, Draconator said:

 

Well, I haven't seen it, so I asked.

You’re going to get murdered here for this because it’s been brought up and argued so often.  You’ve been a member since ‘03 so I don’t think that you are trolling.  I’d bet that you just occasionally visit here and didn’t see it before.  Quick answer: Love Tre, he is a fantastic CB.  Josh has great potential.  But in this league you take a top 5 QB every time over those. 

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1 hour ago, Draconator said:

Patrick Mahomes

 

or

 

Tre White and Josh Allen

 

I have to go with Tre and Josh. Mahomes is special, no question, but building a solid, all around team is more important.


some people will say Josh and Tre and also point out the new regime wasn’t in a place to risk drafting a boom bust QB prospect. Plus Reid Hill, line. Etc

 

some will say of course Duh the guy who turned out to be awesome and won a ring on his rookie deal 

 

no one will change their mind. 

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53 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

You’re going to get murdered here for this because it’s been brought up and argued so often.  You’ve been a member since ‘03 so I don’t think you are not trolling.  I’d bet that you just occasionally visit here and didn’t see it before.  Quick answer: Love Tre, he is a fantastic CB.  Josh has great potential.  But in this league you take a top 5 QB every time over those. 

Well since he started the thread I might as well weigh in.  The real question is who would you take knowing mahomes will get 40 plus million next year and they wont be able to afford the rest of the team like every other team that has thrown top money at a QB.  See lions Falcons etc. 

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10 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Well since he started the thread I might as well weigh in.  The real question is who would you take knowing mahomes will get 40 plus million next year and they wont be able to afford the rest of the team like every other team that has thrown top money at a QB.  See lions Falcons etc. 

Here we go again.....  How terrible it is to have a transcendental player & have to pay them.....

 

Maybe Tre will price himself out for the Bills.
 

And it JA has a great 2020 he'll cost too much too? 

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2 hours ago, Draconator said:

Patrick Mahomes

 

or

 

Tre White and Josh Allen

 

I have to go with Tre and Josh. Mahomes is special, no question, but building a solid, all around team is more important.

Mahomes will likely be a hall of famer one day... I doubt Josh will...

1 hour ago, Halloween Land said:

This debate again really? Would you rather fart or poop your pants? 

Both...at the same time ?

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17 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Well since he started the thread I might as well weigh in.  The real question is who would you take knowing mahomes will get 40 plus million next year and they wont be able to afford the rest of the team like every other team that has thrown top money at a QB.  See lions Falcons etc. 

I think the bottom line is that we are hoping we have to throw mad cash at Allen .... 

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6 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Here we go again.....  How terrible it is to have a transcendental player & have to pay them.....

 

Maybe Tre will price himself out for the Bills.
 

And it JA has a great 2020 he'll cost too much too? 

Yea, we should just fill our roster with JAGs so we never have to pay those pesky second contracts .... you can’t win with those guys ?

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Some QB's develop faster than others, When Allen started in college they ran high school plays, he is entering his third year in big boy football. We have seen his progress from year one to year two, if he continues that climb with experience and better players around him he could be as good or better than Mahomes. Plus you have an ALL Pro CB AND an ALL Pro Linebacker Edmunds.

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23 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said:

Some QB's develop faster than others, When Allen started in college they ran high school plays, he is entering his third year in big boy football. We have seen his progress from year one to year two, if he continues that climb with experience and better players around him he could be as good or better than Mahomes. Plus you have an ALL Pro CB AND an ALL Pro Linebacker Edmunds.

Edmunds isn’t ALL PRO.  That’s like saying tyrod Taylor was all pro because he made the pro bowl.  
 

back on topic.  Tre’Davious is my favorite player.  Allen, my 2nd favorite.  I’ll take mahomes everyday.  All day. 

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Looking at what Mahomes has done over his two full seasons as a starter I think it looks foolish to say you'd rather have Tre and Josh -- RIGHT NOW.  I think the story has yet to be fully written, however, and suggest we come back in 2/3/5/10 years to reassess.

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Mahomes is a great player but look at that KC offense. He wouldn't have been nearly as successful on the Bills given what they have had on offense. Looking back at the 2018 draft I was more annoyed about the Jets trade with the Colts to move up to #3 and get Darnold than passing on Mahomes. Darnold was the QB I wanted the Bills to get. I still think he will be a great QB and maybe the best from the 2018 class if the Jets can build a team around him.

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2 hours ago, Halloween Land said:

This debate again really? Would you rather fart or poop your pants? 

 

 

Is farting the Super Bowl and pooping your pants just making the playoffs?

 

If so I am definitely for the fart.  I'd fart 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.  

 

This is an easy one...farting, 100%.

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1 hour ago, Hebert19 said:

Well since he started the thread I might as well weigh in.  The real question is who would you take knowing mahomes will get 40 plus million next year and they wont be able to afford the rest of the team like every other team that has thrown top money at a QB.  See lions Falcons etc. 

That makes no sense.  You’re saying that you don’t want an elite quarterback because you never want to have to pay one.  Too much fuss is made over paying franchise QBs.  They’re well worth what they make.  Teams have to draft well and be willing to swap out some expensive players at lesser positions, but that is far easier and much more preferable to finding another elite QB. 

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This Hoss has been beaten to death to the point where the poor beast is now comprised of sub-atomic particles.

 

Use the search function and read the board for a while before starting new threads.

 

3 hours ago, Whitey13 said:

Because this hasnt been discussed ad nauseum already.

 

Well, time to get my popcorn ready

 

Sorry to disappoint, but you can still enjoy that savory salty buttered goodness mmmmmmmmmnnnmmmm

 

3 hours ago, Markaf431 said:

Search function is pretty amazing.

 

Search function here "needs ketchup" but it works well enough for this

 

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