Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, SDS said: our offensive line would not have withstood that pass rush. Our offensive line would not have withstood that pass rush, and we didn't have the weapons to get open down field and make plays reliably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I thought the KC o-line did a pretty good job against possibly the best d-line in the league. Look back two weeks ago when the 49ers completely shut down Aaron Rogers and the Packers. That should provide some perspective. Our o-line would have looked like a college offensive line going against professionals tonight. The holding that the KC O-Line got away with was almost criminal. The video that will come out in the next few weeks will make this game seem like a joke. Bosa was held on such a level that Hughes would've ripped a guy's helmet off and been ejected. Every time Mahomes rolled out or ran a O-Line got away with a grab or that extra second of holding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: I don’t agree that we could’ve won the super bowl this year, but the chiefs O Line was terrible tonight. Not sure our OLine would’ve played much worse. It’s why Mahomes looked so bad for a majority of that game. The SF D-line is really stout. They made a really good O-line, the KC O-line, look bad at times. Our O-line looked great against poor defenses, and folded like cheap lawn chairs against really good defenses (NE, Balt) or not so good defenses that did a great job diagnosing our OL weaknesses and homing in on them (Houston) I thought the first half was a great demonstration about what strong defensive pressure/O-line that can't hold against it does to an undeniably top notch QB. Mahomes was off-target and unable to find completions much of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Mark me down as someone who thinks Mahomes was hurt some time in the game which were the cause of his second half throws to be all in the dirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: The holding that the KC O-Line got away with was almost criminal. The video that will come out in the next few weeks will make this game seem like a joke. Bosa was held on such a level that Hughes would've ripped a guy's helmet off and been ejected. Every time Mahomes rolled out or ran a O-Line got away with a grab or that extra second of holding. I'm sure there was some of that, there is on pretty much every play. But there is a threshold that can't be crossed without being called on a more consistent basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, SDS said: The Titans were a much better team at the end of the year than when we played them. it’s only stupid coaching when it doesn’t work. Jimmy was like 18 for 22 at one point, any pass play at any time could have gashed them for big yards. Didnt need to, less than 6 minutes to go with a 10 point lead, it's kind of a no brainer to run the ball there. At the very least it takes time off the clock and limits the Chiefs chances with the ball. Poor decisions by Shanahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I counted KC out every postseason game It's amazing how they can be down and out then all if a sudden turn it on! Love to see Reid finally win one. No matter what happens now he is a SB winning coach. Takes a ton of pressure off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, pop gun said: Didnt need to, less than 6 minutes to go with a 10 point lead, it's kind of a no brainer to run the ball there. At the very least it takes time off the clock and limits the Chiefs chances with the ball. Poor decisions by Shanahan. do you know what happens when the run is stopped? Everyone ***** about the conservative playcalling. The coach’s decisions are only bad when they don’t work. It’s the way it’s always been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, SDS said: do you know what happens when the run is stopped? Everyone ***** about the conservative playcalling. The coach’s decisions are only bad when they don’t work. It’s the way it’s always been. Getting dinged about being both too conservative and too aggressive lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Watching these two teams don’t really think they are all that much better then the Bills but their skill talent and the ability for their receivers to get seperation makes Mahomes job a lot easier as he really wasn’t that good tonight would much rather see a title in KC then another championship goto the Bay Area 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, SDS said: do you know what happens when the run is stopped? Everyone ***** about the conservative playcalling. The coach’s decisions are only bad when they don’t work. It’s the way it’s always been. I laughed and said SF was going to lose the game because of that decision not to run some clock right there. It was stupid decision on Shannys behalf to throw, especially with the running game SF has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, pop gun said: I laughed and said SF was going to lose the game because of that decision not to run some clock right there. It was stupid decision on Shannys behalf to throw, especially with the running game SF has. Fans always have the answer with a tidy list of well worn cliches... Keep them off balance! Keep doing what works! Go for the kill! Kill the clock! A cliche for every decision that doesn’t go the right way. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 20 points was never gonna be enough. You don't waste the last two minutes of the first half because you 'feel good' at 10-10. When you get ahead by 10 you keep doing what is working. Once again, playing not to lose is the loser's mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Congrats to the Chefs!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, SDS said: Mark me down as someone who thinks Mahomes was hurt some time in the game which were the cause of his second half throws to be all in the dirt Except his second half throws weren't all in the dirt, and many of his first half throws were off. He was something like 5 of 9 in the 1st Q, and many of the completions were not on-point. If he was hurt, it was possibly at the end of the long TD drive in 1Q when Ward hit him hard and he fumbled. But he was able to turn it on in the 4Q when the chips were down. 3 minutes ago, Turk71 said: 20 points was never gonna be enough. You don't waste the last two minutes of the first half because you 'feel good' at 10-10. When you get ahead by 10 you keep doing what is working. Once again, playing not to lose is the loser's mentality. Certainly is a dangerous strategy when facing an explosive offense like KC. I told the Chiefs fan we were watching with "10 points in the 4Q is nothing for Mahomes" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 minute ago, SDS said: Fans always have the answer with a tidy list of well worn cliches... Keep them off balance! Keep doing what works! Go for the kill! Kill the clock! A cliche for every decision that doesn’t go the right way. That is true, but there is also a reason some of those cliches are so well worn. Wasting the last two minutes because Shanahan "felt good" being tied is a losing mentality, especially against Mahomes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 32 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: The holding that the KC O-Line got away with was almost criminal. The video that will come out in the next few weeks will make this game seem like a joke. Bosa was held on such a level that Hughes would've ripped a guy's helmet off and been ejected. Every time Mahomes rolled out or ran a O-Line got away with a grab or that extra second of holding. Sf up 10 points it’s 3rd down and it looked like everyone was held on that deep bomb to Hill that changed the game. I wanted to see replay but they didn’t show it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I think our d is there. We need points like 25-30 a game. This game proved to me that being a strong defense is not a viable strategy for lasting in the post-season. Eventually you go up against a great offense and the result is what you have tonight. Helped that teams like SF out-smart themselves and play not to lose or simply retreat into their shell and stop being aggressive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 A bit of schadenfreude on the ATL sports talk market down here will be in order tomorrow methinks—another lead Shanahan couldn’t close out in the SB...with his history of when 28 points wasn’t enough of a spot, am surprised by his approach going into the half. SF not being able to respond at all once KC started scoring was very surprising to see given how the game had been flowing up to that point with 8 min left in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) With just 7.13 left on the clock, Mahomes was 19/32 for 181 yds (59.3%) with 0TD and 2INT. He has nerves of steel when it matters the most. Edited February 3, 2020 by SydneyBillsFan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Sooo... My wife and mother in law said they thought the Super Bowl was boring. They thought it looked like 2 mediocre football teams lacking in talent. Thought that was interesting, even if I don’t necessarily agree... though this was one of the worst games I’ve seen Mahomes play. I really think he benefited from the 49ers Billsy end to the 1st half. He almost had to get SB MVP by default since he played maybe slightly above average and everyone else was blah. Watkins might’ve deserved it actually. Happy for Andy Reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Sooo... My wife and mother in law said they thought the Super Bowl was boring. They thought it looked like 2 mediocre football teams lacking in talent. Thought that was interesting, even if I don’t necessarily agree... though this was one of the worst games I’ve seen Mahomes play. I really think he benefited from the 49ers Billsy end to the 1st half. He almost had to get SB MVP by default since he played maybe slightly above average and everyone else was blah. Watkins might’ve deserved it actually. Happy for Andy Reid. They got so scared of Tyreeks speed at the end, that they got burned because of it. Dude had 15 yard cushions. Mahomes could just toss it up in the air, and these guys are waiting under it with no pressure. Niners blew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Simon said: There's more than one kind of great. It's the worst game I've seen him play in his career yet he still beat the best defense in the NFL going away and went home with an MVP trophy stuffed in his gym bag. I give that to Mahomes. He had a bad 3Q, but he kept his poise, kept steady, and was able to hit some key plays in the 4th Q. I thought there were a couple of key penalties against the 49ers that had disproportionate large impact in the game. One of them was legit, one was iffy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I give that to Mahomes. He had a bad 3Q, but he kept his poise, kept steady, and was able to hit some key plays in the 4th Q. I thought there were a couple of key penalties against the 49ers that had disproportionate large impact in the game. One of them was legit, one was iffy. I was also shocked that the announcers said there wasn’t a straight line camera angle available to the refs reviewing the KC pylon score that would’ve brought up 4th down if not successful...the NFL brings in double everything for the SB—extra refs on the crew, extra cameras, extra halftime and extra TV timeouts, but someone forgot the goal line camera shot?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: If I am Shady, I'm selling the ring for cash. It would mean zero to me. H@rse$h÷+!!! It's what they play for. It may be hollow but still a SB ring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, BillsVet said: This game proved to me that being a strong defense is not a viable strategy for lasting in the post-season. Eventually you go up against a great offense and the result is what you have tonight. Helped that teams like SF out-smart themselves and play not to lose or simply retreat into their shell and stop being aggressive. I agree. I also think Garappolo was exposed tonight. He’s unathletic and has at best an average arm—rich man’s Matt Barkley. I think Shanahan got them as far as he could with Jimmy G at the controls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze_21 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Sooo... My wife and mother in law said they thought the Super Bowl was boring. They thought it looked like 2 mediocre football teams lacking in talent. Thought that was interesting, even if I don’t necessarily agree... though this was one of the worst games I’ve seen Mahomes play. I really think he benefited from the 49ers Billsy end to the 1st half. He almost had to get SB MVP by default since he played maybe slightly above average and everyone else was blah. Watkins might’ve deserved it actually. Happy for Andy Reid. Im guessing they dont watch many bills games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: Imagine trading an MVP and Super Bowl MVP QB for a DB. The Bills are world champions in breaking their own fans’ hearts. Lol hey now, we also got extra picks to trade up for a QB of our own... Though he's nowhere near the level of talent Mahomes is, maybe a once in a generation defense could propel him & the Bills to a Super Bowl, and then that DB will get a game-winning pick-6! And though Mahomes & Co. are likely to dominate the AFC for as long as he's playing, even getting just ONE Super Bowl, even with a mid-tier QB, would be the best thing EVERRRR. I don't care how we win it, but just a single Super Bowl win (then fading back into obscurity) would make me so incredibly happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 27 minutes ago, mannc said: I agree. I also think Garappolo was exposed tonight. He’s unathletic and has at best an average arm—rich man’s Matt Barkley. I think Shanahan got them as far as he could with Jimmy G at the controls. I think Jimmy G can still improve quite a bit. If you think Jimmy G cannot improve any further whatsoever, that fine. But if I'm to believe Josh Allen can suddenly start playing like a top level QB when he still plays the exact same way he always has, how can I not think someone who's been far more consistent like Jimmy G can't also improve further? Also, let's say for arguments sake Jimmy G can't improve. He's playing at 100% capability right now. Shanahan can still take them father than just a SB appearance. This is the NFL after all. Mahomes could've been injured at any point in that game. Next season Mahomes could get hurt again, or a team besides the Chiefs could reach the Super Bowl & be a great matchup for the 49ers. You never know how a season will unfold. If he can get them to the Super Bowl, he can just as easily win the Super Bowl under the right conditions. The Titans could've won the AFC Championship game this year. The 49ers may have matched up well against them. Next year the Ravens could make the Super Bowl & the 49ers could blow them out like the Titans did. Basically what I'm saying is the cliche "any given Sunday," scenario. I could just as easily see the 49ers winning as I could any other Super Bowl contender, even if this is all Jimmy G has to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I think Jimmy G can still improve quite a bit. If you think Jimmy G cannot improve any further whatsoever, that fine. But if I'm to believe Josh Allen can suddenly start playing like a top level QB when he still plays the exact same way he always has, how can I not think someone who's been far more consistent like Jimmy G can't also improve further? Also, let's say for arguments sake Jimmy G can't improve. He's playing at 100% capability right now. Shanahan can still take them father than just a SB appearance. This is the NFL after all. Mahomes could've been injured at any point in that game. Next season Mahomes could get hurt again, or a team besides the Chiefs could reach the Super Bowl & be a great matchup for the 49ers. You never know how a season will unfold. If he can get them to the Super Bowl, he can just as easily win the Super Bowl under the right conditions. The Titans could've won the AFC Championship game this year. The 49ers may have matched up well against them. Next year the Ravens could make the Super Bowl & the 49ers could blow them out like the Titans did. Basically what I'm saying is the cliche "any given Sunday," scenario. I could just as easily see the 49ers winning as I could any other Super Bowl contender, even if this is all Jimmy G has to offer. I didn’t say Garappolo can’t or won’t improve. I just said he’s not very good. And I do think he’s got a low ceiling. I think his lack of running ability hurts them and makes their offense much easier to defend, especially when the Niners are behind. I would much rather have Josh Allen, even though there are some things Jimmy G does better right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I think that shot Mahomes took at the 5yd line hurt him. He popped up immediately and acted fine but didn't look all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: The guy in the strait jacket also thinks everyone else is crazy. Everyone else is crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 32 minutes ago, Haze_21 said: Im guessing they dont watch many bills games. No. Not one. But I don't think they were wrong. The best players didn't exactly rise to the occasion today. San Francisco lost this game more than Kansas City won. Doesn't matter all that much. Reid finally gets his ring and Mahomes has won league MVP, Super Bowl MVP and has a Super Bowl ring all in his first couple years. I just think the latter 2 were less earned today than just given to him. Still can't believe how Shanahan handled the end of the 1st half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Watching these two teams don’t really think they are all that much better then the Bills but their skill talent and the ability for their receivers to get seperation makes Mahomes job a lot easier as he really wasn’t that good tonight would much rather see a title in KC then another championship goto the Bay Area The main thing with Mahomes compared to Allen is the deep accuracy. He's much more consistent and throws with more touch. They're not that far off besides that and Allen is the better scrambler. The play calling and creativity also jump out at me on both sides of the ball. The biggest strength on both teams tonight (the Chiefs weapons and speed provided to Mahomes) and the ability of the 49ers to get pressure with just the front four should be our main focus of the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Penfield45 said: as much as the Bills organization and their fans want to try to ignore the Mahomes pick trade it will haunt this franchise for the next 2 decades or until we find an equally better QB I mean you can say that about a lot of players ... it's kind of stupid to sit and agonize with 20/20 goggles over past year drafts.... It's really stupid. Like low rent, offseason radio talk show garbage time. Stop it. Just stop. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 When was the last time we saw a truly impressive top to bottom team win the SB? Might have to go all the way back to the back Denver Broncos team of John Elway and Terrell Davis. Will we ever see a legendary team again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Good for Reid if anyone deserves it he does. Yes the Bills traded away an MVP and SB winning (and SB MVP) quarterback. Stuff happens i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 7 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Your team just wins the SB and the first thing you do is come here and post on a Buffalo Bills message board. Yeah...you’re not trolling. ? I didn’t think it was trolling. More like sad. Like wouldn’t you want to share the moment with fellow KC fans in real life? Like people you have watched and cheered the Chiefs with for your entire life? I could see coming on here later today or this week. To come on Here within in minutes after The win is kind of well, sad. I feel for you KC fan. Wish you could enjoy the win with other KC fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I went to bed after the game and don’t know why a post SB conversation turns into Mahomes sexual orientation. This is the most ridiculous and ignorent comment I’ve heard in awhile. Sounds like just bashing Mahomes because sour grapes we could have had him and now let’s find anything we can say negative about him. The boring comments are crazy. Did anyone watch last years SB? 13-3 and that was only late in the game. This game went right down to the wire, and any real football fan can see it was an exciting game. I’m happy for KC winning the first time in 50 years and of course for Andy, Kelley, Mahomes, and so on. I feel for the SF fans as they had this game in hand until the end. It’s just the way the ball bounced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 6 hours ago, pop gun said: So with 2 minutes left before half he decided to run the ball and run the clock out. With less than 6 minutes in the game and leading 20-10 he felt uncomfortable and needed to throw the ball on 2nd and 4 then 3rd and 4. WTF, run the ball and run the clock. Stupid coaching lost it for SF. Hope McDermott learned something tonight. Shanahan showed he didn’t learn anything from the 28-3 debacle when he was the Falcons OC. Could of taken another minute and a half off the clock. Or forced KC to use timeouts. Now I’m not sure it really would of mattered but the Look and Feel of the game when KC got the ball back would of been different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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