Fingon Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Edited January 24, 2020 by Fingon 2 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Fingon said: Man, that's brutal. It will be interesting to see next year when teams follow the Buffalo/Tennessee model and stack the box and make him try to beat you with throws outside. Edited January 24, 2020 by ChevyVanMiller 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) That’s bad...for a running back! ? Edited January 24, 2020 by Dr. Football 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 He was never an accurate passer. His legs allowed him to beat you with his arm, but it wasn't through pin-point, precision throws. It was moving the pocket and extending plays 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 A few weeks ago I recall getting flamed for saying he’s not an accurate passer. 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Probably should take away his MVP trophy! 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, Troll Toll said: A few weeks ago I recall getting flamed for saying he’s not an accurate passer. People here argued with me when I said the same thing. He’s not a consistently accurate passer. He puts pressure on the defense with his rushing and extends plays so long that easier throws develop. And he also hits tough passes sometimes, just inconsistently. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 That was pretty bad, I’m hoping he did that on purpose but I doubt it. Defenses will adapt, he might still make the playoffs but passing like that will not carry You through the playoff to a super bowl. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Silly competition which doesn’t show much. Lamar will most likely say he was having fun and didn’t really care. The narrative of Lamar isn’t his physical talent, it is his emotional and intellectual intelligence. I hope Lamar can prove me wrong, but I don’t think he can improve on what he did last year. While I do believe defensive coordinators will be able to draw up plans to stop him. The NFL is a league of constant adjustments. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 People want to be right about him so bad! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 And then they had Jarvis Landry do it. Why the heck is he competing in the passing portion? He sucked too (obviously), but at least he scored more than Jackson. I heard that Jarvis has been to 5 straight pro bowls. What!? No way he deserves that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Is 2 points good or bad? asking for a friend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: People want to be right about him so bad! he’s so good in the playoffs. how much should we give up for Andy Dalton 2.0 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bsblguy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Silly competition which doesn’t show much. Lamar will most likely say he was having fun and didn’t really care. The narrative of Lamar isn’t his physical talent, it is his emotional and intellectual intelligence. I hope Lamar can prove me wrong, but I don’t think he can improve on what he did last year. While I do believe defensive coordinators will be able to draw up plans to stop him. The NFL is a league of constant adjustments. Edited January 24, 2020 by Bsblguy Forgot to add what I wanted to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 His outside the numbers velocity and accuracy isn't very good. He also tends to miss high... but they have 2 huge TEs with great hands so it works - just attack the middle, and the boundary throws should be easy. The rest of the offense is mostly verticals off of play action. Kaepernick had a great arm but he couldn't get the feel and timing down. He wasn't the same type of athlete as LJ either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bsblguy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Intellectual intelligence? Lol 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 This is why people werent sure about him coming into the draft. He has a seriously hard time throwing outside the hashes. Baltimore's scheme was incredible this year. They had people so scared of the run that everyone sucked on the play action fakes, and Lamar had easy throws to tight ends down the middle of the field. Going to have to throw to wideouts if he wants long term success. Better hope Roman sticks around as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 When he was here in Buffalo all i could think watching him was "phenomenal athlete, ok passer." I saw passes behind, high, low all over the place. He will be a good starter for years and I have no doubt he belongs in this league. But he is and likely never will be a precision passer. It will be interesting to see how he responds next year to teams taking away the middle of the field and his running lanes. Can he start hitting of outside passes consistently? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: This is why people werent sure about him coming into the draft. He has a seriously hard time throwing outside the hashes. Baltimore's scheme was incredible this year. They had people so scared of the run that everyone sucked on the play action fakes, and Lamar had easy throws to tight ends down the middle of the field. Going to have to throw to wideouts if he wants long term success. Better hope Roman sticks around as well. Yep, which is why things will get more difficult for him. Receivers and TE's were schemed open for him. Defenses are going to figure that out and force him to play QB. He better hope he improves as a passer or continues to dominate running the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 So to recap. The league MVP isn’t good enough anymore because of a pro bowl activity? Good stuff. 17 minutes ago, MJS said: Yep, which is why things will get more difficult for him. Receivers and TE's were schemed open for him. Defenses are going to figure that out and force him to play QB. He better hope he improves as a passer or continues to dominate running the ball. Isn’t that the case with our own qb? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, MJS said: Yep, which is why things will get more difficult for him. Receivers and TE's were schemed open for him. Defenses are going to figure that out and force him to play QB. He better hope he improves as a passer or continues to dominate running the ball. Everything is a RPO until he crosses the LoS. I don’t see him doing well playing with an injury that hinders his mobility either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Man, that's brutal. It will be interesting to see next year when teams follow the Buffalo/Tennessee model and stack the box and make him try to beat you with throws outside. Well he certainly didn’t play good in the playoff game, he had 500 total yards and Baltimore was in Tennessee’s territory 9 times I believe. It’s not like they were shutting him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 55 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: People want to be right about him so bad! On both sides of the argument... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, KD in CA said: On both sides of the argument... Agreed like on every issue in life. I would say that a guy winning a mvp after winning a Heisman seems to suggest that maybe he is good but it’s still early. as someone who has had doubts about Allen, If he was the MVP this year, I’d be Punching myself in the face for dismissing it because of a pro bowl challenge. But what do I know. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I saw part of that and thought "man, what a Goofball thing". How has it come to this that an NFL Skills Competition at the Probowl bears more resemblance to a whacky version of "Wipeout"? I thought it was embarrassing - for the NFL and the network! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Isn’t that the case with our own qb? Josh Allen has a big arm and can make all the throws. Lamar Jackson can't. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I cant help but a laugh a little watching Landry beat him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: I cant help but a laugh a little watching Landry beat him I would, but I hate Landry and he doesn't deserve to be in his 5th straight pro bowl. He certainly shouldn't have been competing in a passing competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Lamar has already produced more in the past two seasons then I thought he could. I was wrong and next year he probably becomes more average but he is a good QB who can hide his deficiency with supreme athleticism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Lamar has already produced more in the past two seasons then I thought he could. I was wrong and next year he probably becomes more average but he is a good QB who can hide his deficiency with supreme athleticism. For the time being, yes. But the league figured out every other running QB and forced them to be passers, so the same will happen to Jackson at some point. We'll see if he can adjust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, MJS said: Josh Allen has a big arm and can make all the throws. Lamar Jackson can't. Yet, one was the MVP after winning a Heisman. I had them ranked the same coming out in the draft. But some of you love to pounce on Lamar and then blame everyone else but Allen for his shortcomings. Of course this is the same board that questions how good Mahomes is too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, CLTbills said: He was never an accurate passer. His legs allowed him to beat you with his arm, but it wasn't through pin-point, precision throws. It was moving the pocket and extending plays So, with what we saw from some of the Buffalo WRs, Jackson ‘no go in Buffalo’! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Man, that's brutal. It will be interesting to see next year when teams follow the Buffalo/Tennessee model and stack the box and make him try to beat you with throws outside. And take away the conventional run game with Ingram. Lamar is always going to get his yards running. Just try and make sure those aren't the yards that beat you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Meh, some people are just better in live game action. Jackson seems like one of those types. This competition is meaningless in relation to the game itself, even though you would expect a better score than the average Polk High football player could put up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, MJS said: For the time being, yes. But the league figured out every other running QB and forced them to be passers, so the same will happen to Jackson at some point. We'll see if he can adjust. I’d be more concerned about Roman’s passing game construction. The run schemes are brilliant, but that’s where his genius goes.... The passing concepts are very average which likely doesn’t help Jackson at all. Roman and Jackson will have to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, MJS said: For the time being, yes. But the league figured out every other running QB and forced them to be passers, so the same will happen to Jackson at some point. We'll see if he can adjust. So the league is going to figure out all the young QBs while Allen figures out the league. Will the league then go to work on figuring out Allen at that point? Is this something I should be worried about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Yet, one was the MVP after winning a Heisman. I had them ranked the same coming out in the draft. But some of you love to pounce on Lamar and then blame everyone else but Allen for his shortcomings. Of course this is the same board that questions how good Mahomes is too. He was MVP for a reason, but that reason isn't because he is a gifted passer. 3 minutes ago, Chemical said: So the league is going to figure out all the young QBs while Allen figures out the league. Will the league then go to work on figuring out Allen at that point? Is this something I should be worried about? Can you repeat the question? I don't quite understand what your point is. Allen has a lot of growing and developing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, MJS said: He was MVP for a reason, but that reason isn't because he is a gifted passer. Can you repeat the question? I don't quite understand what your point is. Allen has a lot of growing and developing to do. He just threw for more tds than any quarterback in Bills history. it’s kinda crazy the standards Bulls fans have for other teams quarterbacks yet they throw a party for 200 yards passing in gams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Did i just have a Bruuuuce! sighting at the end? 1:40 Bad lip reading "what are you so happy about? you know you were supposed to hit those right?" Edited January 24, 2020 by Dat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He just threw for more tds than any quarterback in Bills history. it’s kinda crazy the standards Bulls fans have for other teams quarterbacks yet they throw a party for 200 yards passing in gams. This just tells me you didn't watch many of his games...if passing yards evidently mean so much to you. Tell me how many of Jackson's TDs came from inside the 10 yard line. Or inside the 5, even. Hypocrite. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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