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Not sure if Tre White is playing mind games or doesn't want to tip the teams hand, but he said he wouldn't be shadowing Hopkins, he'd only cover him on the left, and that Kevin will get him on the right. Don't know if that was a slip up or he just said it because Levi has been Limited. Just doesn't sound promising. Was hoping he'd say something like "whoever is on the right, whether Levi or Kevin"

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2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

I don’t understand how the two are related.  Bills play quite a bit of zone coverage.

I think OP's point is that Tre specifically said Kevin Johnson will be covering the right side of the field which could mean Levi is out.  

 

And yes, we play a lot of zone.  I don't think Tre has ever had an assignment to cover one WR no matter where he lines up.  Could be wrong.  Tre didn't Shadow Hopkins last year.

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3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

I don’t understand how the two are related.  Bills play quite a bit of zone coverage.

He's saying that Tre didn't mention Levi at all in his interview but mentioned Kevin Johnson numerous times. I think he's saying that if Levi was going to play, he figured Tre would have mentioned his name.

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I want Levi to be playing as much as anybody, but if the Texans don't have Fuller, I'm less concerned. Plus, we're both out a similar starter, so that evens it out. Less excuses.

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I have a lot of faith in McDermott and his secondary, they've been the strongest unit on the team since 2017. If LW can't go, I'm sure KJ will be fired up to play his former team. 

 

If Levi is a no-go that leaves an open slot in the secondary... who will it be? Marlowe, Coleman? 

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54 minutes ago, BeastMode54 said:

Not sure if Tre White is playing mind games or doesn't want to tip the teams hand, but he said he wouldn't be shadowing Hopkins, he'd only cover him on the left, and that Kevin will get him on the right. Don't know if that was a slip up or he just said it because Levi has been Limited. Just doesn't sound promising. Was hoping he'd say something like "whoever is on the right, whether Levi or Kevin"

 

Also not sure maybe since Johnson has started quite a few games since the midseason point where Wallace had been struggling so they are kind of platooning anyway.

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If you believe anything that these players and coaches are saying ahead of the game, I am not sure what to tell you. 

 

You actually think they would be giving away their plan in the media?  Now, I am not saying that Tre will be on him for every snap, but if he is not on him 80% of the time, I'd be shocked.

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37 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

I have a lot of faith in McDermott and his secondary, they've been the strongest unit on the team since 2017. If LW can't go, I'm sure KJ will be fired up to play his former team. 

 

If Levi is a no-go that leaves an open slot in the secondary... who will it be? Marlowe, Coleman? 

psahw. obviously it'll be Duke.

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42 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

I have a lot of faith in McDermott and his secondary, they've been the strongest unit on the team since 2017. If LW can't go, I'm sure KJ will be fired up to play his former team. 

 

If Levi is a no-go that leaves an open slot in the secondary... who will it be? Marlowe, Coleman? 

 

Don't worry about it...they can just trot MacKenzie out there again and tell him just go cover whoever and don't worry about the scheme.

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2 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

I think OP's point is that Tre specifically said Kevin Johnson will be covering the right side of the field which could mean Levi is out.  

 

And yes, we play a lot of zone.  I don't think Tre has ever had an assignment to cover one WR no matter where he lines up.  Could be wrong.  Tre didn't Shadow Hopkins last year.

He has had a few, but not on a weekly basis. Guess it depends on matchups. McLaurin, Sutton, Parker, obj this year

56 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

If Wallace is not playing, it wouldn't be shocking news.

 

Kevin Johnson will be up for the challenge.

 

The question then would be, who gets more playing time as depth, besides Taron Johnson? Siran Neal? Dean Marlowe?

It would be Neal

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1 hour ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

I thought Fuller was a go, no?

NFL Network's James Palmer said he was a "longshot" to play.  We'll see though as disinformation is rampant when it comes to injuries this time of year.

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1 hour ago, BuffaloMatt said:

William Wallace killed fifty men.

 

12 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

...with bolts of lightning from his arse...

 

Aye...I heard he stood 8 feet tall too...

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I am not as down as so many are on Levi. All the “he sucks” talk you guys saying that should be ashamed. He is a serviceable corner and undrafted for a reason. His play has far exceeded what anyone thought. 
All the bashing on him and we could of been soooooooo much worse off putting someone else out there. 
 

Back to the point, I like Kevin Johnson getting a chance to play this game. What better way to stick it to your old team who labeled you a busted pick than to have a big game and eliminate them from the playoffs. 

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5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Can you share any recent examples? I’m blanking on this. 

Recent, no. I remember an article about how the Pats mine Bills, Fins and Jets media interviews for valuable intel.

 

One instance I remember explicitly, this was a while ago, Fred Jackson was being interviewed after a big win and the reporter pressed him to explain how he was able to make a certain big play. Fred was really happy about it, and went into great detail about what his read was on the play and how the defensive alignment effected his decision. Now, maybe FredX was coached up to give misinformation, but I don't think so.

 

The article, if I remember correctly, said the Bills were amongst the biggest offerders at giving key information away during interviews. 

 

I hope this is something McD continues to get better at coaching his team on... He and his coaching staff seem to do a pretty good job of handling the media without giving away specifics.

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42 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

I do. The Bills historically have been terrible at giving away information in their player interviews. 

 

 

 

There's a lot you can say about the current Bills administration and team, but being historically accurate to previous admins and teams is definitely not one of them.

 

This team doesn't give a crap about what has been historically done.

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31 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

There's a lot you can say about the current Bills administration and team, but being historically accurate to previous admins and teams is definitely not one of them.

 

This team doesn't give a crap about what has been historically done.

I don't disagree. 

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There are a few personnel situations that have Bills fans scratching their heads.  The team is doing great so no one's really complaining, but there would be more direct attacks if they were losing.

 

Why so little Duke Williams?  He sure looks better than Foster.  Isn't Johnson actually better than Wallace?  Does Patrick DeMarco actually ever play and accomplish anything?  But I remind myself that there's a lot that goes into every play and every decision.  A lot has to do with how a player integrates into the system -- do they recognize coverages and make the proper adjustments?  The coaches have better eyeballs than you and I do, and they know more about football than all of us put together.  And it's possible that some personnel decisions are based on how things are likely to go over the next couple of years as well as this year. 

 

If the coaches think Levi Wallace is the better choice than Johnson, that's good enough for me.

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1 hour ago, blacklabel said:

 

From what I've read, he's gonna give it a go but no idea how much he'll be able to do.

Fuller's groin and Watt's pec. Let them both go full out and both will be sidelined for sure. Remember when Shady's hammy was less than and he tried to have a go. All the better if they actually took reps away from someone else!

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2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

If Levi has to gut it out....I would rather he didnt play

 

K. Johnson is actually not a bad player....and actually has something to play for as this was his former team

K Johnson is a more physical and bigger bodied player. he has been over shooting some tackles underneath him unfortunately.

 But he has great physical abilities.

 I might be the Lone Fan of Levi Wallace and wish he was playing. Hopeful he gets 110% for KC .

K can get the job done and make big plays. but i want a safety helping over the top for most of the game.

2 hours ago, Hampton Josh fan said:

Levi is a marginal cb. His cover skills are just ok and his tackling skills are worse than both Taron and Kevin Johnson. All in all a net gain. 

Bills ask a lot from him. His tackling skills are better than K J.

 Not sure Taron can even play outside. Different animal

1 hour ago, blacklabel said:

 

From what I've read, he's gonna give it a go but no idea how much he'll be able to do.

Hope they dress him then, and take the risk.

15 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said:

Fuller's groin and Watt's pec. Let them both go full out and both will be sidelined for sure. Remember when Shady's hammy was less than and he tried to have a go. All the better if they actually took reps away from someone else!

exactly

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6 hours ago, sven233 said:

If you believe anything that these players and coaches are saying ahead of the game, I am not sure what to tell you. 

 

You actually think they would be giving away their plan in the media?  Now, I am not saying that Tre will be on him for every snap, but if he is not on him 80% of the time, I'd be shocked.

Yes. I think Tre was straight shooting and slipped up by referring to Kevin. I don't think he did it with intention to mislead the Texans.

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3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

If Levi has to gut it out....I would rather he didnt play

 

K. Johnson is actually not a bad player....and actually has something to play for as this was his former team


That it’s the playoffs might mean they all actually have something to play for. 

7 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

I think OP's point is that Tre specifically said Kevin Johnson will be covering the right side of the field which could mean Levi is out.  

 

And yes, we play a lot of zone.  I don't think Tre has ever had an assignment to cover one WR no matter where he lines up.  Could be wrong.  Tre didn't Shadow Hopkins last year.


hes followed quite a few guys through his career, and this year too.

 

he didn’t have him every snap last year but if i recall tre even mocked that the Texans started hiding him in the backfield for some plays to get him out of tres shadow 

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6 hours ago, matter2003 said:

 

Don't worry about it...they can just trot MacKenzie out there again and tell him just go cover whoever and don't worry about the scheme.

 

He actually make take snaps on defense in practice, just in case.  McD likes his players to be flexible.

 

I wonder if they could have Duke play safety, George Wilson made his career after transforming from a WR.

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