Rc2catch Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Doesn’t he have all kinds of health issues? Seems he establishes a program, then gets super sick when times get rough and has to step away. Or maybe I’m thinking of someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Nanker said: And that was confirmed to all when he proudly showed up sporting his specially painted truck in The Bills colors... with the logo facing BACKWARDS! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: Doesn’t he have all kinds of health issues? Seems he establishes a program, then gets super sick when times get rough and has to step away. Or maybe I’m thinking of someone else He has a brain cyst. I’m not sure if he ever coaches again, he may. But the browns or any team being interested in him isn’t news. Wake me up when it’s reported that he actually has interest in any of these opportunities. The only reason I saw this particular report as noteworthy is that he works with Feldman at Fox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: Rex should be put in there, what did the truck ever do to anyone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: But he did go to an AFCCG. Marrone is an arse and we are better off without him. But do I think he'd have done a better job in 2015 and 2016 than Rex Ryan? 100% without any single doubt. And that 2015 roster was properly talented and held back by atrocious coaching. The Jim Schwartz defense with the Greg Roman offense would have been a playoff team for sure. The offense got much better and the defense worse with the hire of Rex. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 hours ago, ALF said: I was thinking more about Bill Polian's roots Buddy Nix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Ultimately we will never know. But I think Marrone would have done okay for a couple more years. Certainly better than Rex did and that 2015 team had playoff level talent. I knew Rex was a mistake the moment we hired him. Marrone inherited an elite defense in Jacksonville. That's why he went to the playoffs with them. The real leader of that Bills team was Schwartz. Marrone was useless. He's an offensive coach with terrible offenses all the time. Not sure why anyone would think things would be different if Marrone stayed here. BTW, Rex went 15-16 as a head coach here. Marrone went 15-17. Both were mediocre. Rex gets blasted for ruining the defense, but Marrone deserves just as much criticism for having a sucky offense and especially a sucky offensive line, two things that are supposed to be his forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, MJS said: Marrone inherited an elite defense in Jacksonville. That's why he went to the playoffs with them. The real leader of that Bills team was Schwartz. Marrone was useless. He's an offensive coach with terrible offenses all the time. Not sure why anyone would think things would be different if Marrone stayed here. BTW, Rex went 15-16 as a head coach here. Marrone went 15-17. Both were mediocre. Rex gets blasted for ruining the defense, but Marrone deserves just as much criticism for having a sucky offense and especially a sucky offensive line, two things that are supposed to be his forte. Rex went 15-16 with much more talented teams. And yes, Schwartz deserves some of the credit but had Marrone stayed then Schwartz would have stayed. And Rex inherited an elite defense here. He didn't go to the playoffs despite adding an excellent OC, a passable QB and a likely HoF running back. Marrone would have done better with that team than Rex. And that likely would have squeezed us in for 2015. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Rex went 15-16 with much more talented teams. And yes, Schwartz deserves some of the credit but had Marrone stayed then Schwartz would have stayed. And Rex inherited an elite defense here. He didn't go to the playoffs despite adding an excellent OC, a passable QB and a likely HoF running back. Marrone would have done better with that team than Rex. And that likely would have squeezed us in for 2015. Marrone would not have built that team. He would have continued the mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Doug " punt from the 35" Marrone. SMDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Gugny said: I have always thought that the Marrone/Whaley Bills were a QB away from being a powerhouse. Maybe if Coach Marrone had dumped Hackett Jr AND gotten a better QB. The team is pretty much a mirror image of the current team. Lights out D and putrid O. Just an average O and we are seriously in the SB discussion. Should offense really be this hard when you have a franchise QB and decent talent around him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Maybe if Coach Marrone had dumped Hackett Jr AND gotten a better QB. The team is pretty much a mirror image of the current team. Lights out D and putrid O. Just an average O and we are seriously in the SB discussion. Should offense really be this hard when you have a franchise QB and decent talent around him? Whaley's inability to get a QB is what did him in. I never had a problem with Hackett, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Gugny said: I have always thought that the Marrone/Whaley Bills were a QB away from being a powerhouse. QB, oline, RB, and ... coach. Plus no good #1 WR. Watkins hasn't ever performed at a #1 level. Oh and no good TE. The oline was terrible under Marrone. Fred Jackson was on his last legs. And Marrone is just not a winning coach no matter how you slice it. Lots of 8-8 and 9-7 seasons with a few 6-10 seasons sprinkled in is how that would have continued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Apparently Browns are trying to pry Roman away from Ravens...this would be so damn interesting I can't even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Apparently Browns are trying to pry Roman away from Ravens...this would be so damn interesting I can't even That would be great, to see Lamar Mania come crashing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: That would be great, to see Lamar Mania come crashing down. In one fell swoop...this is how stable organizations like the Steelers come up aces even when they aren't good- their division does stupid, stupid stuff. Roman leaving Baltimore for Cleveland HC would simultaneously be bad for Browns and Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: In one fell swoop...this is how stable organizations like the Steelers come up aces even when they aren't good- their division does stupid, stupid stuff. Roman leaving Baltimore for Cleveland HC would simultaneously be bad for Browns and Ravens. The Ravens aren't stable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chaos said: The Ravens aren't stable? Not if they lose Roman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Not if they lose Roman. a team that has the same head coach for a decade, only two gms in more than a decade becomes unstable if they lose an OC who is on about his fourth OC tour of duty. Weird. By that definition the Steelers became unstable when Dick Labeau was released. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: That would be great, to see Lamar Mania come crashing down. I like Lamar, and I don’t want to see his star fade. That said, I’m concerned for him if Roman goes. He runs a pretty unique scheme and it works for them. It would be unfortunate for Lamar if a new OC comes in and tries to change things too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Not that we do not have our share of knee-jerk reactionaries here on the Wall looking for change for change sake, but kind of feels nice as a fan - like we get to sit back and roast marshmallows in the toasty warmth of all these other franchises going up in flames. Seen our own share of organizational dysfunction, nice to NOT be part of the NFL circus side show year after year. I may have said something very similar last year too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Watching Ron Rivera, you can see where McDermott gets his culture from but i think McD is better at it in that he can make adjustments to the process (growth mindset) whereas i feel that Ron is more rigid in this. i have my doubts about Snyder being NOT THE FOCUS but maybe he finally realizes he has been a big part of the problem. Not sure about Haskins but if given the proper support could succeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28412867/cowboys-move-jason-garrett-source-says Looks like what we all figured would happen is finally happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 looks like the Cowboys are moving on from Garrett. I want the cowboys to suck like everyone else, but im happy they are moving on from him. he and the talk about him getting fired has gotten stale. im tired of hearing how the cowboys should fire garrett. happy they are finally getting rid of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Jerry got what he wanted. He dragged this out all Wild Card week to show how "important" his team is. His team leads the news everyday. Adds to the brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 7 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Apparently Browns are trying to pry Roman away from Ravens...this would be so damn interesting I can't even They are interviewing him. Nothing yet more than that. Sounds like McDaniels/Zeigler or Stefanski/Berry at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Jerry got what he wanted. He dragged this out all Wild Card week to show how "important" his team is. His team leads the news everyday. Adds to the brand. I don't buy that brand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Apparently Browns are trying to pry Roman away from Ravens...this would be so damn interesting I can't even I actually predict this to be the hire 28 minutes ago, cle23 said: They are interviewing him. Nothing yet more than that. Sounds like McDaniels/Zeigler or Stefanski/Berry at this point. McDaniels won’t like that the GM will have control of the 53 per Haslam presser today Edited January 3, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 39 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: looks like the Cowboys are moving on from Garrett. I want the cowboys to suck like everyone else, but im happy they are moving on from him. he and the talk about him getting fired has gotten stale. im tired of hearing how the cowboys should fire garrett. happy they are finally getting rid of him. It is just semantics I guess but technically Garrett was not fired. His contract expires this month so they simply will not renew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: It is just semantics I guess but technically Garrett was not fired. His contract expires this month so they simply will not renew. Yep I think it expires Jan 14. They won’t “fire” him but he gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Dallass did not extend him with him needing to prove he was worth a new contract which would pay more money and he didn't. This may have been Garrett's choice in attempt to try to get more money in next contract. Certainly not a firing just as players who are not re-signed are not firings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Watching Ron Rivera, you can see where McDermott gets his culture from but i think McD is better at it in that he can make adjustments to the process (growth mindset) whereas i feel that Ron is more rigid in this. i have my doubts about Snyder being NOT THE FOCUS but maybe he finally realizes he has been a big part of the problem. Not sure about Haskins but if given the proper support could succeed. Sean has also been paired with a great GM. Between Hurney and Gettleman, Rivera has not been so lucky... which makes the move to Washington even more puzzling. Roman to the Browns would be really interesting... has he ever been successful as an OC when he didn’t have a run heavy QB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Apparently Browns are trying to pry Roman away from Ravens...this would be so damn interesting I can't even tyrod just perked up to that news! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Didn’t realize Rivera brought in Jack Del Rio as DC... that’s an interesting pairing. Could be really good, or could lead to a “too many cooks in the kitchen” type deal. Really interested to see who gets chosen as OC.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Didn’t realize Rivera brought in Jack Del Rio as DC... that’s an interesting pairing. Could be really good, or could lead to a “too many cooks in the kitchen” type deal. Really interested to see who gets chosen as OC.... I wonder if he’d come after Dorsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Yep I think it expires Jan 14. They won’t “fire” him but he gone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I wonder if he’d come after Dorsey I wondered that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Sean has also been paired with a great GM. Between Hurney and Gettleman, Rivera has not been so lucky... which makes the move to Washington even more puzzling. Roman to the Browns would be really interesting... has he ever been successful as an OC when he didn’t have a run heavy QB? I guess he did some good things with Alex Smith, But got further with Kaep obviously. Gore fit his scheme like a glove 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I actually predict this to be the hire McDaniels won’t like that the GM will have control of the 53 per Haslam presser today If they consult McDaniels on the GM hire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 hours ago, whatdrought said: Sean has also been paired with a great GM. Between Hurney and Gettleman, Rivera has not been so lucky... which makes the move to Washington even more puzzling. Roman to the Browns would be really interesting... has he ever been successful as an OC when he didn’t have a run heavy QB? Baker is a good runner but it will shorten his career, but it will be fun. thing is can roman run a whole team and not just an offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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