Scott7975 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 You get better by playing. That is the reward. You don’t get better by sitting on the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, klos63 said: Majority of the players have to play. Who would take their place? We don't have a 90 man roster. I wish the NFL would expand the rosters like MLB does I think they should be able to dress 63 for week 17 and beyond. Kind of a reward for the PS guys plus the regular inactives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: I might be in the minority; however, I think it is the right move. i agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Josh is only playing a quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: You get better by playing. That is the reward. You don’t get better by sitting on the sideline. We have practice for that !!! Where At least we know that there’s no one that would intentionally try to hurt somebody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Putin said: We have practice for that !!! Where At least we know that there’s no one that would intentionally try to hurt somebody yeah I think they have rubber mats at practice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: You get better by playing. That is the reward. You don’t get better by sitting on the sideline. Then why does every team sit their guys in preseason game 4? Why is the best team in football sitting all of their guys? 4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Josh is only playing a quarter. So 16 plays based on the Bills average offensive plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Then why does every team sit their guys in preseason game 4? Why is the best team in football sitting all of their guys? And this is exactly how we should be treating this game as preseason week 4 ...And the best team in football has a bye week on top of that !!! Edited December 24, 2019 by Putin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: This is a dumb decision. Why risk injury? This game is meaningless. Let your starters get a well deserved rest and see what guys like Duke & TJ can do. If even one player gets injured in this game it will have backfired in clappy's face. Have you seen how this team plays after the bye week? Not a big deal for most of the players.., They are mostly a young team, reps are important... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, Putin said: What are we playing for THIS week please explain that it’s worth to take a gamble on injuring our QB To get the offense playing better. After the Cleveland game McD had his "play fearless" quote and the team did play better the next couple of weeks offensively. Then they faced Dallas, Balt, Pitt, and NE and it's regressed. So getting some confidence back trumps the injury risk IMO Could he get hurt, but could happen anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 The benefit, I think, is that it doesn’t allow The starters to prepare any differently. It keeps them in their routine. I don’t hate it. It it’s more than one drive, ill probably hate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Then why does every team sit their guys in preseason game 4? Why is the best team in football sitting all of their guys? So 16 plays based on the Bills average offensive plays? The dark overlord Belichick has played starters ,including Brady in the first half of meaningless week 17 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 if you’re of the mindset that “it was never about this year anyways”, then this is 100% the right decision. Get the youngins some more reps (for half a game or so, then put in the 2nd and 3rd-string youngins). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: yeah I think they have rubber mats at practice He hasn't slipped in the shower yet and its been almost 2 seasons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 51 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Then why does every team sit their guys in preseason game 4? Why is the best team in football sitting all of their guys? So 16 plays based on the Bills average offensive plays? Already answered that. Preseason game 4 is a joke. Its vanilla against a bunch of guys that aren't going to make an NFL team and no game planning. The best team in football is choosing to rest their starters because they are the best team in football. When we are the best team in football then they can rest their starters too. Probably like 2 series is the way I think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Mitch Morse got hurt on Saturday. We need to roll with the offensive line without him with Feliciano at C, sothe team will need to play a bit but not for so long a time to make it crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: Already answered that. Preseason game 4 is a joke. Its vanilla against a bunch of guys that aren't going to make an NFL team and no game planning. The best team in football is choosing to rest their starters because they are the best team in football. When we are the best team in football then they can rest their starters too. Probably like 2 series is the way I think of it. 1 quarter will be 16 plays based on the average Bills game. I don’t want any of those important players exposed to 16 chances for injuries. This holds especially true playing against a real NFL defense instead of the vanilla pro bowl defense of preseason game 4. 1 injury and it’s a nightmare. 2 scoring drives and it’s meaningless. Again, our 2nd best offensive output of the season was off of a bye week. I guess I can keep saying it over and over but no one will ever convince me that this is a good idea. You can stick your hand near a fire and not get burned. You can stick your hand near a fire and get burned. The outcome doesn’t make it a good decision to stick your hand near the fire. Edited December 24, 2019 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Anyone that likes it I ask how you feel about Barkley starting in Houston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Only guys I would sit are Edmunds, Devin, Smoke and Poyer. Everyone else plays 2 or 3 series and then sprinkle in the other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 It’s a tough spot for sure for the Bills brass. I am in the camp of playing all the regulars for a series or two minimum. I am also in the camp of giving Yeldon 35 carries and getting out of dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Bills Mafia better be planning on kidnapping Tre White, taking him to an undisclosed location, and wrapping him in bubble tape for 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I will sit there and watch and take the maximum punishment this team dishes out to me for 46 years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: 1 quarter will be 16 plays based on the average Bills game. I don’t want any of those important players exposed to 16 chances for injuries. This home especially true playing against a real NFL defense instead of the vanilla pro bowl defense of preseason game 4. 1 injury and it’s a nightmare. 2 scoring drives and it’s meaningless. Again, our 2nd best offensive output of the season was off of a bye week. I guess I can keep saying it over and over but no one will ever convince me that this is a good idea. You can stick your hand near a fire and not get burned. You can stick your hand near a fire and get burned. The outcome doesn’t make it a good decision to stick your hand near the fire. Well perhaps they should also just lock themselves in the house this week too. It isn't worth risking getting in a car accident on the way to practice. A practice that also isn't worth it because they could get injured there. There is a 4.1% chance of getting an injury in a football game that keeps you out of the next game according to the statistics. A car accident where someone gets injured happens every 14 seconds according to statistic. Someone dies from a car accident every 12 minutes. Stop fearing injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Anyone that likes it I ask how you feel about Barkley starting in Houston? Every one of us might be hating you come Monday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t like it personally. There is NO upside imo. What do you guys think? They are a young team but I would sit every starter i could. Not worth the injuries and no different than a bye week, let em sit. 4 hours ago, TroutDog said: Ugh. I suspect I get McD’s thinking in the aspect of all games are important, particularly the next. I understand that but I also get the big picture and would much rather the guys who are critical or dinged-up had a week off. except that this game has no importance at all, all that matters now is game one in the Playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 4 hours ago, VW82 said: I’m ok with everyone playing 1-2 quarters. Athletes are creatures of habit and so there’s value in keeping them in their routine. It’s going to look really dumb if someone important goes down though. no different than a bye game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 There are two sides to every coin. I don’t personally like it but I can understand wanting to keep the starters in rhythm also. Just need to keep our fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 We could make a run in the playoffs, but aren’t a realistic contender for winning the Super Bowl. If we were a contender with an experienced QB, I’d say sit the starters. Our guys need experience, and Allen is just as likely to get hurt next preseason. It’s not all about this postseason, it’s about building a sustainable future. Getting reps helps with that. If someone does get hurt, are we really going to say that’s the reason we didn’t win the Super Bowl? This is all about the big picture, not just this postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 So stupid. An offensive lineman could get pushed into josh Allen during a running play too. there are many ways in which the starters could get injured. dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Analyst Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 52 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Again, our 2nd best offensive output of the season was off of a bye week. That output was also against the Dolphins. Which is the same team we had our best output against. And it was on the road. so we did worse against them when we had rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Offense definitely needs to work on some things. But any player that is a little bit injured should sit. At least lets hope Daboll doesn't call a real conservative game otherwise whats the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Meh. The argument can be made from either position. I trust McD. 59 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: 1 quarter will be 16 plays based on the average Bills game. I don’t want any of those important players exposed to 16 chances for injuries. This home especially true playing against a real NFL defense instead of the vanilla pro bowl defense of preseason game 4. 1 injury and it’s a nightmare. 2 scoring drives and it’s meaningless. Again, our 2nd best offensive output of the season was off of a bye week. I guess I can keep saying it over and over but no one will ever convince me that this is a good idea. You can stick your hand near a fire and not get burned. You can stick your hand near a fire and get burned. The outcome doesn’t make it a good decision to stick your hand near the fire. But is trying to win a football game the equivalent of sticking your hand near a fire? 10 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: We could make a run in the playoffs, but aren’t a realistic contender for winning the Super Bowl. If we were a contender with an experienced QB, I’d say sit the starters. Our guys need experience, and Allen is just as likely to get hurt next preseason. It’s not all about this postseason, it’s about building a sustainable future. Getting reps helps with that. If someone does get hurt, are we really going to say that’s the reason we didn’t win the Super Bowl? This is all about the big picture, not just this postseason. When does Bellicheat rest his players? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Practice the long ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, JMF2006 said: I wish the NFL would expand the rosters like MLB does I think they should be able to dress 63 for week 17 and beyond. Kind of a reward for the PS guys plus the regular inactives. I think it's crazy that MLB expands their rosters so much. I think there is good reason to think the NFL rosters should have a couple more active rosters spots, but nothing like what MLB does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: So stupid. An offensive lineman could get pushed into josh Allen during a running play too. there are many ways in which the starters could get injured. dumb. OMGoodness!! Josh could trip down his own stairs on the way to practice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, Bakin said: Meh. The argument can be made from either position. I trust McD. But is trying to win a football game the equivalent of sticking your hand near a fire? When does Bellicheat rest his players? In this case it absolutely, 100% is the same. If it was the difference in the 5 seed or 6 seed then no. If the division was still at stake, of course not. If the Bills win 52-0 or lose 52-0 they are in the exact same spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: In this case it absolutely, 100% is the same. If it was the difference in the 5 seed or 6 seed then no. If the division was still at stake, of course not. If the Bills win 52-0 or lose 52-0 they are in the exact same spot. How about winning is contagious? winning is about putting in the work? i obviously agree and am a bit torn on the issue myself. I just don’t see the analogues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: Well perhaps they should also just lock themselves in the house this week too. It isn't worth risking getting in a car accident on the way to practice. A practice that also isn't worth it because they could get injured there. There is a 4.1% chance of getting an injury in a football game that keeps you out of the next game according to the statistics. A car accident where someone gets injured happens every 14 seconds according to statistic. Someone dies from a car accident every 12 minutes. Stop fearing injury. Here are some stars that have missed games this year because of injury: Dalvin Cook, Chris Carson, Drew Brees, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Julio Jones, JJ Watt, Pat Peterson, Patrick Mahomes, and Alvin Kamara. I could name dozens more but won’t. Every single one of those guys was injured WHILE playing NFL football. If you don’t think that injuries happen in NFL games I don’t know what to tell you. Sticking your fingers in your ears yelling “la la la la la la la la” doesn’t change the risk of playing this game at this level. They have ZERO to gain!!!!! This isn’t complicated. All that can happen is bad stuff. If they win 52-0 and look like a machine what advantages do they get in their championship pursuit? 6 minutes ago, Bakin said: How about winning is contagious? winning is about putting in the work? i obviously agree and am a bit torn on the issue myself. I just don’t see the analogues. They scored 31 points off their bye. The Bills are 4-0 off of a loss coming into this week. I’m not sure how one can reasonably make the “contagious” argument? It isn’t real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Pokebball said: Every one of us might be hating you come Monday morning Just saying why risk it and have J.A play against Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Here are some stars that have missed games this year because of injury: Dalvin Cook, Chris Carson, Drew Brees, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Julio Jones, JJ Watt, Pat Peterson, Patrick Mahomes, and Alvin Kamara. I could name dozens more but won’t. Every single one of those guys was injured WHILE playing NFL football. If you don’t think that injuries happen in NFL games I don’t know what to tell you. Sticking your fingers in your ears yelling “la la la la la la la la” doesn’t change the risk of playing this game at this level. They have ZERO to gain!!!!! This isn’t complicated. All that can happen is bad stuff. If they win 52-0 and look like a machine what advantages do they get in their championship pursuit? They scored 31 points off their bye. The Bills are 4-0 off of a loss coming into this week. I’m not sure how one can reasonably make the “contagious” argument? It isn’t real. Now list all the players that haven't missed a game due to injury. Of course injury is a risk. Everything in life is a risk unless you want to put yourself in a bubble. Then again that's a risk because your house can burn down on top of your bubble. You can get injured doing anything, anywhere, anytime. Stop worrying about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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