Irv Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 A lot of talk about a plane Jane gameplay. Is there a chance McD put in a very basic game plan to not show his hat because he knows NE won't lose to Miami, the AFC East title was not going to happen, and he thinks we will play the Pats in the playoffs? Sincerely, I Need to Get a Life. 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 This thread is craptastic. 2 8 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFlamesGo Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I don’t think he ‘threw’ the game as much as tried to win with a very simple defensive plan. Yes, McD is the type to not show all his cards in a game that wouldn’t have any standings relevance. Brady and the Patriots have been an atrocity for 2 years now vs the blitz, rushing 4 all game just isn’t the way to play them any more. IF they play again this year, you will see a very different defensive formula. And a different defensive outcome. Book it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I will say that maybe the Bills said hey let’s see if we can win straight up with this gameplan without throwing the sink at it. I don’t think the game was thrown per say but I could see where they might hold some things back in the playoffs particularly if they see the Patriots again. I mean they prob knew that the Patriots weren’t going to lose at home to the Dolphins so they prob knew win or lose they’d be the 5 seed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 My wifes name is Jane and shes offended 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 We all agree that NE losing to Miami was far fetched....but thinking we played vanilla in case we meet NE later in the playoffs is silly IMO...the odds of the Bills playing NE in the tournament are even more remote than them losing to the fish....KC at home is NOT losing to Pitt or whoever is the #6 seed.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I believe Bills saved their "A" game plan for either Watson or Mahomes, whoever they play in the playoffs. If they play Brady again, they'll come at him hard. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 If McD is the great leader of this team that he appears to be, and one to galvanize the locker room, get the most out of his players... then, how would this play in the locker room? If his players knew he was deliberately not giving them the best chance to win against the Patriots, wouldn’t he be destroying everything he has built over the last few years? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I dont think mcdermott is as outside the box as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: If McD is the great leader of this team that he appears to be, and one to galvanize the locker room, get the most out of his players... then, how would this play in the locker room? If his players knew he was deliberately not giving them the best chance to win against the Patriots, wouldn’t he be destroying everything he has built over the last few years? Maybe the coaches told the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) I would love to see McD’s reaction if someone said this to him. Edited December 22, 2019 by oldmanfan 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said: Maybe the coaches told the players. That would be even worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easterner Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Who knows what he thought, but punting in the 4th Q on 4th and inches was so negative, definitely not cool. By playing not to lose than playing not to win has happened more than once this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Gugny said: This thread is craptastic. so are most of the OPs threads 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I would love to see McD’s reaction if someone said this to him. Yeah the nationally ranked prep school wrestler would come out of him mighty quick. Someone will find themselves folded in half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 "Throwing" the game implies intentionally losing. No, he didn't throw the game. However, if you think of it like a poker game, the first few hands aren't necessarily played to win, they're played to get a feel for your opponent. That way, you can cash in big in later hands. In that respect, it's very possible that McD, knowing that a win yesterday was unlikely to change the Bills' overall playoff status, didn't want to show too much of his hand. That doesn't mean he didn't try to win the game, just that he tried to win it with a less flashy game-plan - a plan similar to the one that beat the Steelers the week before. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, Irv said: A lot of talk about a plane Jane gameplay. Did you join the mile-high club recently? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I think there is merit to this. Not that McDermott threw the game, but we definitely didn't sell out to win the way we did in our last 4 games. Not a single trick play or wrinkle on offense and defense. It felt intentional. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, HappyDays said: Not a single trick play or wrinkle on offense and defense. I'd call the tackle-eligible TD pass a trick play. 16 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: My wifes name is Jane and shes offended Is she also a flight attendant? Plane Jane? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, WhoTom said: I'd call the tackle-eligible TD pass a trick play. A good call and one that makes opponents plan even more if they play the Bills. I also like the TD to Brown. It's almost like the Bills were telling other Patriots opponents this is how you beat Gilmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, WhoTom said: I'd call the tackle-eligible TD pass a trick play. Fair enough, I think we ran that exact play earlier this year too. The offense basically looked the same as it has all year but I thought the defense looked very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: Did you join the mile-high club recently? does he ever leave? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, Irv said: A lot of talk about a plane Jane gameplay. Is there a chance McD put in a very basic game plan to not show his hat because he knows NE won't lose to Miami, the AFC East title was not going to happen, and he thinks we will play the Pats in the playoffs? Sincerely, I Need to Get a Life. I hope this thread is just a twisted joke as there is no way in hell McD’s throwing this game. He wanted momentum going into the playoffs not two losses. He’ll sit injured people, but everyone is playing next Sunday. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 27 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: My wifes name is Jane and shes offended wait your not Tarzan by some chance?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I think there is merit to this. Not that McDermott threw the game, but we definitely didn't sell out to win the way we did in our last 4 games. Not a single trick play or wrinkle on offense and defense. It felt intentional. Definitely not throw the game and I have a hard time believing they wouldn't go all out to win but on the surface it seemed like they were holding back at least from a scheme point of view. The pass rush packages were definitely Vanilla. With that said, I just think their offense out schemed and executed against the Bills defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I sure didn’t see any in game adjustments to prove otherwise how many times have we seen the opposing team score early and then we clamp down after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: wait your not Tarzan by some chance?? I can't comment on that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 43 minutes ago, Irv said: A lot of talk about a plane Jane gameplay. Is there a chance McD put in a very basic game plan to not show his hat because he knows NE won't lose to Miami, the AFC East title was not going to happen, and he thinks we will play the Pats in the playoffs? Sincerely, I Need to Get a Life. I agree. You need to get a life 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 45 minutes ago, Irv said: A lot of talk about a plane Jane gameplay. Is there a chance McD put in a very basic game plan to not show his hat because he knows NE won't lose to Miami, the AFC East title was not going to happen, and he thinks we will play the Pats in the playoffs? Sincerely, I Need to Get a Life. or just go away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Buffalo wanted to win that game for lots of reasons. /end thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Irv said: A lot of talk about a plane Jane gameplay. Is there a chance McD put in a very basic game plan to not show his hat because he knows NE won't lose to Miami, the AFC East title was not going to happen, and he thinks we will play the Pats in the playoffs? Sincerely, I Need to Get a Life. Charade cherishing coach causes chaos by chugging chances of catching chart-climbing Cheatriots. I don’t think so. Edited December 22, 2019 by ChevyVanMiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Irv said: A lot of talk about a plane Jane gameplay. Is there a chance McD put in a very basic game plan to not show his hat because he knows NE won't lose to Miami, the AFC East title was not going to happen, and he thinks we will play the Pats in the playoffs? Sincerely, I Need to Get a Life. You're serious aren't you? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I used the term sandbagging yesterday. No Tre or double coverage on Edelman, no blitzes at all. I think he didn’t want to show them anything in case we see them in the playoffs. (At least I hope that was the case for yesterday’s game plan) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 As I said in another post. Threw the game no. Didnt give them his best gameplan because the game meant nothing. Yes. If you think you knew how to attack them would you use that gameplan on a game that for the most part was meaningless? Or would you go out and try and match up with them playing basic D. Hope for a win but if you dont get you didnt give anything away. Just saying it's not ridiculous... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Iron Maiden said: We all agree that NE losing to Miami was far fetched....but thinking we played vanilla in case we meet NE later in the playoffs is silly IMO...the odds of the Bills playing NE in the tournament are even more remote than them losing to the fish....KC at home is NOT losing to Pitt or whoever is the #6 seed.... They wouldn’t have done it for New England, it would’ve been for Houston (playing vanilla). Buffalo won’t depend on a 6 seed to beat the Chiefs, they’ll go through Houston and Baltimore to meet New England in the AFC Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: I think there is merit to this. Not that McDermott threw the game, but we definitely didn't sell out to win the way we did in our last 4 games. Not a single trick play or wrinkle on offense and defense. It felt intentional. Dion Dawkins caught a touchdown. And they played off of the brown throw in the last NE game with the brown reverse. So offense wasn’t entirely vanilla. defensively, however, I agree with the premise the McDermott held his cards. The Texans and anyone else we might get in the playoffs will see a much more aggressive approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The only thing he needed to throw was the red challenge flag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: I used the term sandbagging yesterday. No Tre or double coverage on Edelman, no blitzes at all. I think he didn’t want to show them anything in case we see them in the playoffs. (At least I hope that was the case for yesterday’s game plan) yup. Look at what KC did to Edelman. Doubled him and took him away. If we see NE again, what travels with Harry, Edelman gets the double, and we hope that Milano and the safeties handle the run better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I wouldn’t call it throwing a game by any means, but the defensive style was so different it was apparent. I just think they knew their chance at a division title was slim, and the chance of seeing NE again in the playoffs was greater. So it seemed they went with a simple game plan and showed none of what they might be working on for the playoffs yesterday. Everyone knows how Brady and his O line have done in the passing game this year, it’s all on film. The Bills did zero to exploit this, even when Newhouse came into the game. They wanted to win, for sure. Just not at the expense of getting wins in the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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