Steptide Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I know he's a special teamer, but even in that category he seems nowhere to be found. Foster has 3 catches this year for 64 yards. In 2 games Duke williams has 6 catches for 58 yards. This isn't another Duke williams thread, it's a find another freaking reciever thread. Whether it's Duke williams or someone else, the bills desperately need another passing threat. Beasley and brown are solid, but past that the bills are almost hopeless. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 He did make a tackle today on special teams. At least that is something. Agreed on the find another receiver. It clearly isn’t Duke, the coaches aren’t giving him another shot for one reason or another. Have to go into the draft to find a legit receiver. Need a guy who can body out a corner, make a contested catch, make a jump ball catch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 LOL They will in the off season. You're not bringing in some guy week 17 and expect him to contribute. Of all the positions on the field WR is one of the longest learning curves as now matter how good or bad the WR is, he also needs to be on the same page as the QB, so 2 people involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogham26 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 really had high hopes for him this year. Would be surprised at this point if he makes the team next season 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I would not have said this before the regular season started but : if this was how we were going to use Foster, then I wish we would have kept Zay Jones. Zay was a total letdown and it seemed as if there was no place for him. But at this point, I’d much rather see him on the outside across from Brown. I don’t understand what happened with Foster but it’s been a complete waste. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 He did contribute on ST. But that was it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Replaceable guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouds Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Going into the season Foster would have brought us a decent pick if we moved him, now I’m not sure what he’d bring us in a trade and doesn’t seem like he’s a factor at all going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: He did make a tackle today on special teams. At least that is something. Agreed on the find another receiver. It clearly isn’t Duke, the coaches aren’t giving him another shot for one reason or another. Have to go into the draft to find a legit receiver. Need a guy who can body out a corner, make a contested catch, make a jump ball catch. It was a big tackle also. Would have been a huge return. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I just can’t assign blame to Foster when he’s not getting the time on the field. We’ve all seen what he can do with the ball in his hands and when he has a chance. I would think the coaches would design plays to let him run some deep digs and crossers and see what he can do after the catch. He needs to play over McKenzie imo. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I would not have said this before the regular season started but : if this was how we were going to use Foster, then I wish we would have kept Zay Jones. Zay was a total letdown and it seemed as if there was no place for him. But at this point, I’d much rather see him on the outside across from Brown. I don’t understand what happened with Foster but it’s been a complete waste. good point. Zay is the worst, but at least could run some routes, get open, and catch a ball or two on a good day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampton Josh fan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Either Josh has lost confidence in Foster and Mackenzie or they get no separation. Perhaps that's why Josh has to take sacks and or tuck it and run. Why can't Dabol throw to his backs. I also didn't see one screen. They are running really vanilla offense with an O-line that can't open holes against good front sevens. Unfortunately that's usually what you face in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Mckenzie gets the majority of the snaps as the 3rd WR. I'm not sure why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Neither Foster or Duke the hero will be on this roster next season. Bet the mortgage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 what i dont understand is why Deboll takes positive plays out of the playfbook If you ARE going to keep Foster on the active....he should get at least 2 reverse runs a game because they ALWAYS seem to net positive yardage.... Completely taken out of the playbook lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Yep, 1st Team All Milk Carton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 If you barely attempt to use someone, yes, they're a non-factor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Nobody can make plays if they don’t get targets. We don’t target Foster, or kroft, or singletary in the pass game, usually don’t even target McKenzie just use him as misdirection mostly. You can’t blame guys for not making plays if they are not given chances to make plays. Foster had 1 target tonight? That was him on the high throw in the end zone right? If it wasn’t him then I never even seen him on offense. I don’t care about duke or Yeldon but I would rather get them active and sit some special teams guys just to show defenses something different. We run the same formations over and over and everyone knows we will only target 3 guys in brown Beasley and Knox. At least mix up the formations some. If I see McKenzie on the fake sweep one more time I might puke. Glad they at least tried brown on one tonight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Woulda been nice if Allen hit him for a TD. I think he was open in the 4th Q on that deep shot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, peterpan said: Woulda been nice if Allen hit him for a TD. I think he was open in the 4th Q on that deep shot I think Allen missed him on a good route in Miami. The one tonight looked like it would of been pretty risky to squeeze in. I wasn’t sure if it was foster or brown but there was 2 patriot guys in decent position it would of had to of been a perfect pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Nobody can make plays if they don’t get targets. We don’t target Foster, or kroft, or singletary in the pass game, usually don’t even target McKenzie just use him as misdirection mostly. You can’t blame guys for not making plays if they are not given chances to make plays. Foster had 1 target tonight? That was him on the high throw in the end zone right? If it wasn’t him then I never even seen him on offense. I don’t care about duke or Yeldon but I would rather get them active and sit some special teams guys just to show defenses something different. We run the same formations over and over and everyone knows we will only target 3 guys in brown Beasley and Knox. At least mix up the formations some. If I see McKenzie on the fake sweep one more time I might puke. Glad they at least tried brown on one tonight Yes, we are indeed predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Wonder what changed from last year to this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 51 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: He did make a tackle today on special teams. At least that is something. Agreed on the find another receiver. It clearly isn’t Duke, the coaches aren’t giving him another shot for one reason or another. Have to go into the draft to find a legit receiver. Need a guy who can body out a corner, make a contested catch, make a jump ball catch. Well, it’s supposed to be a deep WR draft so we have more than enough time to get into that after free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 53 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I would not have said this before the regular season started but : if this was how we were going to use Foster, then I wish we would have kept Zay Jones. Zay was a total letdown and it seemed as if there was no place for him. But at this point, I’d much rather see him on the outside across from Brown. I don’t understand what happened with Foster but it’s been a complete waste. No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 It's not a Duke Williams thread, but it has to be. There is no reason for Foster or Perry to be on the gameday roster over Duke and Yeldon. NONE. 12 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Wonder what changed from last year to this year JA not throwing the deep ball, and when he does, not as accurately i think is the answer. The whole offense is discombobulated. I blame Daboll's play calling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Steptide said: I know he's a special teamer, but even in that category he seems nowhere to be found. Foster has 3 catches this year for 64 yards. In 2 games Duke williams has 6 catches for 58 yards. This isn't another Duke williams thread, it's a find another freaking reciever thread. Whether it's Duke williams or someone else, the bills desperately need another passing threat. Beasley and brown are solid, but past that the bills are almost hopeless. This is the only team in the NFL that has been using only 2 primary wrs all year. Daboll is beyond stupid and is handcuffing Josh. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 41 minutes ago, Hampton Josh fan said: Either Josh has lost confidence in Foster and Mackenzie or they get no separation. Perhaps that's why Josh has to take sacks and or tuck it and run. Why can't Dabol throw to his backs. I also didn't see one screen. They are running really vanilla offense with an O-line that can't open holes against good front sevens. Unfortunately that's usually what you face in the playoffs. good analysis here. I would add that: 1. Josh should throw it away. Some of the sacks he took today were holding on way too long. 2. Dabol needs to throw to his RB's. And get Yeldon active. Just now, LABILLBACKER said: This is the only team in the NFL that has been using only 2 primary wrs all year. Daboll is beyond stupid and is handcuffing Josh. Daboll is very much handcuffing Josh. I get cutting down on the Int's, that has been great, but what the heck with the inconsistent playcalling. The only time we were in a rythym is when we needed to go down the field at the end of each half. He's way too conservative in his routine play calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: It's not a Duke Williams thread, but it has to be. There is no reason for Foster or Perry to be on the gameday roster over Duke and Yeldon. NONE. JA not throwing the deep ball, and when he does, not as accurately i think is the answer. The whole offense is discombobulated. I blame Daboll's play calling. I wholeheartedly agree. Players like Duke & TJ could've helped us against Baltimore and NE. The stubborn nature of these coaches is dumbfounding? It took them forever to get rid of Peterman and Zay. There's 5-6 semi-worthless players that get activated every week only to contribute NOTHING to this pathetic offense. Maybe 6-3 Duke catches that last jump ball over 5-8 smurf Beasley? Singletary struggles running routes. Where's Yeldon? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Nice thread, completely agree and really hope we can move on from Foster. Fans still act like he's going to come around, as if an entire lost season isn't enough. We don't have some secret weapon at WR that may go off eventually - we essentially have incomplete WR depth. Foster is never going to duplicate what he did at the very end of last season. It was a nice story for awhile, but he was always an UDFA for a reason. Edited December 22, 2019 by Nelius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The guy had, what - 4 or 5 , 100-yard receiving games last year. What the hell has happened, how has he fallen off the face of the NFL map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I would play Foster over McKenzie and activate Duke for 6-8 snaps a game. But McD is so worried about ST and they aren't that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 If he can't crack this roster as a WR3, it's probably never going to happen. We don't know what happens at practice or the personal stuff with these guys. He'll either figure it out over the summer or will be replaced by someone who can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) He will be gone on the off-season. I look forward to help on the WR Corp, as well as oline help. But until then, got to focus on Houston most likely Edited December 22, 2019 by Dablitzkrieg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Josh Allen is inaccurate so I’m not sure it really matters. He’s just not accurate enough & is slow reading the defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: The guy had, what - 4 or 5 , 100-yard receiving games last year. What the hell has happened, how has he fallen off the face of the NFL map? We're not a passing team. Brown and Beasley eat most of the targets. Allen hasn't been very close on most deep balls this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 12 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Neither Foster or Duke the hero will be on this roster next season. Bet the mortgage. Sounds like the guy who put $5K on game and then had to hide from wife and disappeared. 11 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Wonder what changed from last year to this year He seems to change when McCoy left. McCoy is the one who gave him lecture last year when he was demoted to PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: The guy had, what - 4 or 5 , 100-yard receiving games last year. What the hell has happened, how has he fallen off the face of the NFL map? SHADY was not here to light a fire under his ass. Seems like Foster has a motivation problem. Some people on this board talk as if we have coaches that know nothing about football. We as fans do not know what goes on in the locker room and practice. Perhaps, these "flash in the pan" players we fans clamor for do not learn their routes. Perhaps they have too many drops during practice. Who knows? The coaches know! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Steptide said: I know he's a special teamer, but even in that category he seems nowhere to be found. Foster has 3 catches this year for 64 yards. In 2 games Duke williams has 6 catches for 58 yards. This isn't another Duke williams thread, it's a find another freaking reciever thread. Whether it's Duke williams or someone else, the bills desperately need another passing threat. Beasley and brown are solid, but past that the bills are almost hopeless. It is another Duke Williams thread. This Offensive Personnel is going to be the same offensive personnel you are going to see until next year. We need to have two more legit WRs, and another TE (maybe two), a RT, an OG and a No 2 RB, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I would not have said this before the regular season started but : if this was how we were going to use Foster, then I wish we would have kept Zay Jones. Zay was a total letdown and it seemed as if there was no place for him. But at this point, I’d much rather see him on the outside across from Brown. I don’t understand what happened with Foster but it’s been a complete waste. It sounds good in theory, but Jones had this intangible negative effect on the passing game. Somehow, someway, he just seemed to repel the ball. Something would always happen when the ball came his way that would lead to an incompletion. Sometimes his fault, sometimes not, but he was just one of those unlucky people. From some rumors I heard, he was the same way off the field (beyond the famous hotel incident). Getting involved in situations no NFL player should be getting involved in. He was good riddance. We need players that bring fortunate events, not unfortunate events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Lets see, Foster or this... I could see the above being VERY useful yesterday. ETA: Who makes the game day personnel decisions for the offense, McDermott or Daboll? Edited December 22, 2019 by stosh64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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