bills6969 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Holy *****...We must have the weakest group of WRs in the league. Beasley is good, but only in the slot. We have no deep threat that can go up and snag the ball. Luckily, this year's draft is DEEP with WR talent. No excuse not grab a big body WR talent in the 1st or 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Is Allen going to magically be more accurate to them? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Sign AJ Green. They need to use draft picks on front 7 players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Give Knox's spot to Williams, at least he has much better hands and can block too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Virgil said: Is Allen going to magically be more accurate to them? He wont have to throw it on a dime to hit 5'9 guys like Brown and Beasley. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, buffalo2218 said: Give Knox's spot to Williams, at least he has much better hands and can block too Let's give up on scrubs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Tee Higgins. End thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, bills6969 said: He wont have to throw it on a dime to hit 5'9 guys like Brown and Beasley. Have you seen how far off his current passes are? Any 20ft tall WRs in the draft? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Agreed, there are throws a big guy just makes easier. Allen did miss a lot of guys with a halfstep open downfield On the flip side way too many drops again today. Teams will continue to defend the Bills like this till he starts hitting some of those balls. Wish they give Duke a chance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Higgins or Shenault calling it now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I was thinking several times during the game that I wished they had activated Duke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Rocky Landing said: I was thinking several times during the game that I wished they had activated Duke. Yea. I didn't think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Higgins or Shenault calling it now I take them or Antonio Gandy-Golden or Michael Pittman Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: Is Allen going to magically be more accurate to them? It's absolutely bizarre how people here want to talk about every possible topic OTHER THAN THE QUARTERBACK. Allen straight up left 2, and very possibly 3 TDs on the field today! Had nothing to do with how much protection he got from the OL, had nothing to do with how fast or tall the WRs are, or how good the defensive opposition was! Had to do with Josh not being able to put the ball where it needs to go. Until THAT is solved, the results against good teams are going to be about the same. We struggle to get to 20 points and that is not enough to beat most good teams most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardLee Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Virgil said: Is Allen going to magically be more accurate to them? If he progresses and matures even half as much as he did the last off-season, he WILL. BIG TALL WR all the way! Edited December 8, 2019 by RichardLee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, bills6969 said: He wont have to throw it on a dime to hit 5'9 guys like Brown and Beasley. He missed a couple easy TDs today by YARDS. Please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Virgil said: Is Allen going to magically be more accurate to them? If the o line gives him the time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Nextmanup said: It's absolutely bizarre how people here want to talk about every possible topic OTHER THAN THE QUARTERBACK. Allen straight up left 2, and very possibly 3 TDs on the field today! Had nothing to do with how much protection he got from the OL, had nothing to do with how fast or tall the WRs are, or how good the defensive opposition was! Had to do with Josh not being able to put the ball where it needs to go. Until THAT is solved, the results against good teams are going to be about the same. We struggle to get to 20 points and that is not enough to beat most good teams most of the time. He left points on the field for sure. Were running a passing offense that requires good execution and accuracy and today they had neither. I still maintain a good coordinator can manufacture yardage and completions for the qb Given where Allen is right now he needs more help from Daboll and the receivers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: It's absolutely bizarre how people here want to talk about every possible topic OTHER THAN THE QUARTERBACK. Allen straight up left 2, and very possibly 3 TDs on the field today! Had nothing to do with how much protection he got from the OL, had nothing to do with how fast or tall the WRs are, or how good the defensive opposition was! Had to do with Josh not being able to put the ball where it needs to go. Until THAT is solved, the results against good teams are going to be about the same. We struggle to get to 20 points and that is not enough to beat most good teams most of the time. It’s on Allen, Daboll, and the Oline. Can’t expect a guy who still needs to pay attention to footwork to remain accurate when he has to sidestep DTs in <1s. There were deep passes off too (on Allen). Most of the blame goes to Daboll though. We could have come out with a triple option and caught them off guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Nextmanup said: He missed a couple easy TDs today by YARDS. Please! Just ignore he was getting his ass whipped all day with little or no time. Not sure why I am bothering here, never mind, I’ll just add you to the ignore list... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 We need a Derrick Henry type back waaaaaaaay more than a big wr. Josh is not going to loft pretty jump balls to AJ Green or someone similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 It's obvious JA is not confident with his long ball right now. He's not comfortable with throwing it to our smurf size WRs down-field so he overthrows the ball. I think all it will take is a big, tall body WR that will out muscle DBs for the ball and I think JA will be more comfortable throwing the deep ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Virgil said: Is Allen going to magically be more accurate to them? Nope, but the 4 balls that bounced off receiver's hands today are probably caught by a big stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 The last play was the exact reason you play Duke. Swap his spot with Lee Smith or DiMarco. Those guys will never be in a position to give you the 1st down or the 6 points when it's absolutely necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 A big WR is needed, though far from the biggest need. Where has Duke Williams been? Inactive? If so, why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 CMON!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: I was thinking several times during the game that I wished they had activated Duke. Duke might be hurt for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Allen needs to find a solution to the deep ball. It is awful. The Bills need a better return on investment from Kroft. He is invisible. Knox comes up with some great catches but if he doesnt stop dropping the easy completions he will get replaced. Why was Knox left to block Judon 1 on 1?? The Oline has a tough time picking up blitzes. The Bills need to sign a RT or draft one. Ford is terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 We have one. He is inactive all the time now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: He missed a couple easy TDs today by YARDS. Please! Soooooo easy any armchair QB could do it, amiright! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Just ignore he was getting his ass whipped all day with little or no time. Not sure why I am bothering here, never mind, I’ll just add you to the ignore list... Please, show me the video on his missed deep throws on each of the first 3 drives where his protection was the problem. I'll wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 That big WR is on our roster - Duke Williams. Too bad he injured his shoulder in the Miami game in October. I really expected coaching staff to work him back into the lineup by now. I see no reason good reason to wait any longer. He also caught his only target of 23 yards in that game before he went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said: Allen needs to find a solution to the deep ball. It is awful. The Bills need a better return on investment from Kroft. He is invisible. Knox comes up with some great catches but if he doesnt stop dropping the easy completions he will get replaced. Why was Knox left to block Judon 1 on 1?? The Oline has a tough time picking up blitzes. The Bills need to sign a RT or draft one. Ford is terrible. It’s Allen’s biggest fault, lack of control with his arm. He throws too hard and too fast all the time. Take a look at Mahomes, he has the ability to throw with nearly identical velocity, but he uses that ability pretty sparingly. The deep ball accuracy is not the disease, it’s the symptom. Fouts mentioned it multiple times today, with a bunch of other criticisms of Allen’s play today that I was fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: Give Knox's spot to Williams, at least he has much better hands and can block too No S#@$....love to have seen an endzone fade/ jumpball on that last play to Duke. Knox can't block and way too many drops. I guess we'll never know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Tall guys won’t catch the fast balls either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Knox needs to do a better job catching balls that hit him in the numbers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, mattynh said: Tall guys won’t catch the fast balls either It took a few years, but Joe Ferguson eventually learned to put a little touch on the ball - hoping Allen will, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, ChasBB said: It took a few years, but Joe Ferguson eventually learned to put a little touch on the ball - hoping Allen will, too. I think he will. I am optimistic. But I also think some “drops” are not all on the wr like people are saying. And drops happen for all teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 42 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: Agreed, there are throws a big guy just makes easier. Allen did miss a lot of guys with a halfstep open downfield On the flip side way too many drops again today. Teams will continue to defend the Bills like this till he starts hitting some of those balls. Wish they give Duke a chance Ya.. I'd like to see more of the Duke. He's a big fella. Apparently the strike against Duke is he's not versatile. In other words, he can't contribute to special teams. Cusp players break into the roster by being able to make a special teams contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 50 minutes ago, Virgil said: Is Allen going to magically be more accurate to them? He might because they are tall and can catch the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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