MAJBobby Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, wppete said: We are one year away from being serious contenders. Bills showed today we are not an elite team yet. One more good FA class and Draft class. holes I see not in order DE - Less if they re-sign Lawson TE - like Knox Potential but need more (can be less if we get a legit WR) WR - Like Brown as No2. Beasley in Slot. Need a legit top end talent and a great draft to find one OL - Still can have upgrades here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: As a Super Bowl contender yes... 1 year away My point is, anything can happen when you get into the playoffs. I'm not saying we will get to the super bowl but if you get to the playoffs you don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, wppete said: We are one year away from being serious contenders. Bills showed today we are not an elite team yet. One more good FA class and Draft class. We knew this already didn't we? The Bills just happen to be moving along a little quicker than we thought. They are ready to take that final step with a few additions and growth. The Bills remain a dangerous team that is capable of beating anyone. "Capable" is the word! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, wppete said: We are one year away from being serious contenders. Bills showed today we are not an elite team yet. One more good FA class and Draft class. Yep, said the same last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, wppete said: We are one year away from being serious contenders. Bills showed today we are not an elite team yet. One more good FA class and Draft class. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: Agree. Primary needs are a RT, DE, second RB, and a big WR. Daboll is a problem, too. He should be replaced but not with someone who will implement a whole new offensive system; just tweak what is there and go toward quicker passes. Add TE to that group. Knox is decent, but is inconsistent. IMO, Knox would be a good #2 TE. Outside of Knox, the Bills have gotten next to nothing from the TE group this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: Add TE to that group. Knox is decent, but is inconsistent. IMO, Knox would be a good #2 TE. Outside of Knox, the Bills have gotten next to nothing from the TE group this season. Yeah, I think Kroft was supposed to be the #1 TE. It just hasn't worked out real well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 37 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: Add TE to that group. Knox is decent, but is inconsistent. IMO, Knox would be a good #2 TE. Outside of Knox, the Bills have gotten next to nothing from the TE group this season. Knox just needs more experience I hope a full offseason with the team and him and Allen will have a much better dynamic I think. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Helpmenow said: Take #19 out for #82 next game. I like McKenzie when we design plays to get him the ball. He has different speed. But Foster can do the same. No need to have them both active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, wppete said: We are one year away from being serious contenders. Bills showed today we are not an elite team yet. One more good FA class and Draft class. Thought the same. They are learning to win also. The game seemed a little too big for them at times . That includes Josh, Beasely ( still don’t love him), Effing Knox with another key drop on an easy ball like Beasely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Kinda unfair. Yeah they were trash today but come playoff time anyone has a shot to get hot. Exactly. They are not the very Top Tier, "playoffs are a given unless injuries and such" level yet, but who would have though the Giants would win the SB in the year the Cheats were 18-0? Just get in. But yeah, one or two more year of good drafts and salary cap space... oh yeah! Still, let's win N O W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, suorangefan4 said: We can beat anyone this year too. The Ravens didn't outplay us at all. That game could've gone either way. they outplayed us on offense. They made some plays on third down to keep drives going. We didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 They are just as likely to take a step back this offseason as they are to take the next step forward. They had an easy schedule this year and haven't beaten anyone better then them yet. They need to take advantage of this year and go far, then hope they make the right moves this offseason to keep things going. Every team in the offseason is looking to get better and many will. Seeing them keep it close against one of the leagues best teams is good, but it means nothing after this season is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 hours ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: maybe one year away from winning the super bowl. We are a top-5 team. Top 10 for sure - To get into the top 5 who are we better than here. San Francisco Baltimore New Orleans Kansas City Green Bay Seattle New England Minnesota LA Rams Buffalo Bills Tennesse Titans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Right now I can see the Bills being able to upset the pats IF the defence can play harder in the 4th quarter and keep them from trying to come back (hoping the Bills go into the 4th having a lead..... They beat the earlier season Titans which appear to be a different team then the new Tannehill Titans Rams an GB would be favorites to beat the Bills, but have the occasional bad weeks that they could be beaten, same with the Vikings. The rest would probably take a fluke or a really bad game by them to lose to the Bills right now. I would almost want to add the Bears to that list, If Mitch has turned the corner, they have a defence that makes them a very good team. Going into next season though, who knows what could happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Allen is has some developing yet to do before he approaches his ceiling. The Bills have another great cap situation and a surplus of draft picks. Their talent will be upgraded again next season. I think the Bills could win a playoff game in January, but I doubt they'll reach the Super Bowl. I expect they will be a top 5 team in the league next year and it looks like they have a good shot at dethroning the Patriots in the AFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Allen is has some developing yet to do before he approaches his ceiling. The Bills have another great cap situation and a surplus of draft picks. Their talent will be upgraded again next season. I think the Bills could win a playoff game in January, but I doubt they'll reach the Super Bowl. I expect they will be a top 5 team in the league next year and it looks like they have a good shot at dethroning the Patriots in the AFC East. Well I hope the talent is upgraded by more then just the draft. So far they haven't hit it big with their Big FA signings (Star, Morse) but have found a couple of lesser FAs in Brown and Beasley that have helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Kinda unfair. Yeah they were trash today but come playoff time anyone has a shot to get hot. The trash today lost by one score to the hottest team in the league. That’s my kinda trash! ? I said before the season began I was hopeful for this year, but I think NEXT year we seriously contend. Now, could we get in and beat some playoff teams? ABSOLUTELY! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Augie said: The trash today lost by one score to the hottest team in the league. That’s my kinda trash! ? I said before the season began I was hopeful for this year, but I think NEXT year we seriously contend. Now, could we get in and beat some playoff teams? ABSOLUTELY! I think this is the year it can be done, there are very few 'unbeatable' teams out there right now, and they just finished playing one. If KC is healthy, they may become one too. But outside of that, the rest of them are all beatable, the problem is that the Bills are just as beatable as the others.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Well I hope the talent is upgraded by more then just the draft. So far they haven't hit it big with their Big FA signings (Star, Morse) but have found a couple of lesser FAs in Brown and Beasley that have helped. In my post, I mentioned Buffalo's upcoming cap advantage as well as their surplus of draft picks. My assumption is they will add quality free agents. I'm not impressed by splash free agent signings as they are usually over priced. Brown and Beasley were great adds last off season. Ideally, most of a team's long term core players will come via the draft, but there is always room for a few long term pickups. Otherwise, free agency is also good for short term role players. For example, Buffalo have six offensive linemen who weren't here a year ago. Only Morse has a long term deal. The rest are on 1 or 2 year deals. Buffalo can retain some of them if they want. Feliciano seems pretty useful for his position flexibility for instance. The Bills may draft one and sign one who is a little higher graded lineman to a 3 or 4 year deal and start to build some long term stability. They can get rid of the weaker links in the group without a cap penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoBills33 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 every middling team thinks there 1 year away...it generally doesnt turn out that way. Lets just hope this team can get it all together now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, PoBills33 said: every middling team thinks there 1 year away...it generally doesnt turn out that way. Lets just hope this team can get it all together now Exactly how is this a middling team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 hours ago, mykidsdad said: Agreed. Good not great. Josh looked in over his head like he did against the Pats oh mykidsdad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, BillsRdue said: Top 10 for sure - To get into the top 5 who are we better than here. San Francisco Baltimore New Orleans Kansas City Green Bay Seattle New England Minnesota LA Rams Buffalo Bills Tennesse Titans Titans, Rams, Minnesota, Current State NE... living in Washington and watching a lot of Seahawks the Bills should beat them. I guess if I had to pick a current top 5 my list would be: Baltimore/San Fran/New Orleans all right at top. then KC/GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoBills33 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Exactly how is this a middling team? We are not exactly a middling team, most power rankings have us around 9-10 which I would say is accurate. Only point I was trying to make is another offseason doesn't guarantee that we will be a powerhouse next year. Every other team in the league goes through the same process to try and become more competitive. I would much rather hope this team gels now and get hot for the playoffs than bank on another offseason taking us over the top. We are not going to get as easy a schedule next year that we did this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 next year is a far tougher schedule (on paper and right at this moment....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The Bills need to take care of business and get into the playoffs. I think they can beat some playoff teams. Their defense can hang with any team. I think the Bills can get better in the offseason but nothing is ever guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, wppete said: We are one year away from being serious contenders. Bills showed today we are not an elite team yet. One more good FA class and Draft class. I have mixed emotions on this. I mean you are probably right, but I think that we are currently in a class with any team in the league. Imo, no team completely outclasses the Buffalo Bills. Couple this with a young and improving Josh Allen, and we have a chance. That said, the 2020 draft was tailor made for the Buffalo Bills. I often wonder if Beane saw and planned for the glut of top quality receivers that will be out there in April (which I think is CLEARLY our #1 need). Sorry, but I am unaccustomed to highly skilled Bills leadership. So yes, it's a longshot, but imo the Bills still have a chance to go all the way, even this year. Next year, if they play the offseason right and stay fairly healthy, I think that they can win it all and will be one of the favorites to do so. Edited December 9, 2019 by Bill from NYC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogham26 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I have to agree. I think they need another draft class with some offensive playmakers. A stud WR is so badly needed. It would make john browns life a heck of a lot easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 An improvement on the line. A strong WR 1 and more touch on deep balls. This team could beat anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 11 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Exactly how is this a middling team? beat all the garbage heaps, sometimes squeaking it out lost to the teams it should have then again Marv's teams never won a game they shouldn't have, lost a handful of games they had no business in a million years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 13 hours ago, BillsRdue said: Top 10 for sure - To get into the top 5 who are we better than here. San Francisco Baltimore New Orleans Kansas City Green Bay Seattle New England Minnesota LA Rams Buffalo Bills Tennesse Titans I think we can beat any of those teams. Green Bay just struggled to put away Washington... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: beat all the garbage heaps, sometimes squeaking it out lost to the teams it should have then again Marv's teams never won a game they shouldn't have, lost a handful of games they had no business in a million years Middling, to me, is in the middle. Dallas isn't garbage, the Titans aren't garbage, Broncos aren't garbage...Bills are 4th in the conference in pole position for wildcard. I don't consider that middling personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 18 hours ago, pop gun said: To blame this on the QB shows you know nothing. The oline couldn't hold a block for more than 2 seconds, the WR/TE/RB couldn't catch a cold and the OC could design or call a decent game if his life depended on it. That said Allen could absolutely be better but to blame him for the loss shows your ignorance and lack of knowledge. First 3 offensive series of the game ended with Allen passing 3-5 yards ahead of his receiver. Baltimore didn’t have any safeties deep on those plays either so an accurate pass, while difficult, would have resulted in a TD. I would like a QB who can complete a couple of those difficult passes a game. Hopefully Allen can start to hit them, but it has been a problem all season. Clearly Baltimore noticed this and was able to blitz instead of keeping safeties deep. If a player only hits one 3 pointer all season you back off him until he starts to prove you wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 That was my big takeaway from yesterday. Getting closer, but not quite there yet. I think Allen needs one more offseason of seasoning before he's really ready for primetime. He played terribly yesterday because he was under constant duress. He was under constant duress, because he just doesn't know how to check us into the correct plays and blocking assignments at the LOS. He's a smart dude, so I suspect he'll get it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 35 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said: I think we can beat any of those teams. Green Bay just struggled to put away Washington... anyone can beat anyone on any given day, but are we a better team than the top 5 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: anyone can beat anyone on any given day, but are we a better team than the top 5 right now. Ask that the other way around. Do any of those top 5 feel comfortable playing the Buffalo Bills in the playoffs/superbowl? I think they all would say heck no.. I think we are as good as any of them. If our O can get going, we will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 19 hours ago, TroutDog said: We were one play away from tying in the fourth against the best team in the league WHILE letting our QB be crushed. We also stopped their rushing. We are good now. I agree, there is, however, room for improvement. I am very excited to see where this team will be next year, after another year with Beane in FA and another draft...along with $90,000.000 or so in cap room. Along with another year of experience for Josh and Edmunds. The sky is the limit for this teams foreseeable future! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Next year they may be one year past having a super bowl winning D. That’s my concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The offense as currently constructed is just fair to middling. They need playmakers at WR and TE ( Knox’s suspect hands mean he may not be the guy there). That’s a big part of the reason the Bills struggle vs cover zero. Watch the NFL highlight shows and you see WRs and TEs making plays on passes that are just thrown in their general vicinity, much less pinpoint. The Bills don’t have those kind of athletes. They have a nice slot receiver and a good speed wideout , that’s about it. No one scares a team with elite DBs such as the Ravens or Pats. Now, most teams don’t have that kind of quality in the secondary, but if you want to play with the big boys in the playoffs ... So yes, the team is probably a bit ahead of schedule overall but the offense needs more talent. They also need another RB and to figure out how to set up/ sell screens. Until then, they will struggle vs the elite pressure defenses of the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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