DefenseWins Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SingDe00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BellLe00.htm Compared to what the Jets have paid Bell, Singletary was a real bargain! Another great move by McBeane!! And to think the Bills will have him cheaply for another 3 years! Edited December 8, 2019 by DefenseWins 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDTT Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD 1D Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD 1D Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV 2019 22 BUF rb 26 9 5 98 553 2 25 26 5.6 61.4 10.9 29 20 161 8.1 2 4 49 2.2 17.9 69.0% 5.6 118 6.1 714 4 2 2019 27 NYJ RB 26 12 12 183 589 3 25 19 3.2 49.1 15.3 67 55 403 7.3 1 19 23 4.6 33.6 82.1% 6.0 238 4.2 992 4 1 Singletary on top, Bell on bottom! 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, TDTT said: Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD 1D Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD 1D Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV 2019 22 BUF rb 26 9 5 98 553 2 25 26 5.6 61.4 10.9 29 20 161 8.1 2 4 49 2.2 17.9 69.0% 5.6 118 6.1 714 4 2 2019 27 NYJ RB 26 12 12 183 589 3 25 19 3.2 49.1 15.3 67 55 403 7.3 1 19 23 4.6 33.6 82.1% 6.0 238 4.2 992 4 1 Singletary on top, Bell on bottom! Lol, why do people copy and paste these jumbled up stats all the time that are a nightmare to read instead of just typing the few key stats. 13 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Lol, why do people copy and paste these jumbled up stats all the time that are a nightmare to read instead of just typing the few key stats. Unreadable on a phone. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Lol, why do people copy and paste these jumbled up stats all the time that are a nightmare to read instead of just typing the few key stats. Hard to tell what that said..... It’s not just the RB, we invested heavily in the OLine, they did not. The game is won in the trenches for the most part. See the Darnold thread, and what’s happened to Josh Rosen. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Augie said: Hard to tell what that said..... It’s not just the RB, we invested heavily in the OLine, they did not. The game is won in the trenches for the most part. See the Darnold thread, and what’s happened to Josh Rosen. Definitely a big offensive line difference there. Singletary I highly doubt could have the same impact with last years line. I don’t think bell is as elite as his Pittsburgh days but there’s no way he’s 3ypc bad. Jets should of used that Mosley money on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: Definitely a big offensive line difference there. Singletary I highly doubt could have the same impact with last years line. I don’t think bell is as elite as his Pittsburgh days but there’s no way he’s 3ypc bad. Jets should of used that Mosley money on the line. Bell had a very unusual and patient style in Pittsburgh. He waited, and waited....and eventually picked a hole because it developed. With the Jets? They should have seen this coming. You don’t have time to wait. You just get hit. I know money made the decision, because if it was about football he’d be a Steeler. I don’t hate him for that, he has to decide what’s best for him. I’m glad the Jets wasted so much cap space on a RB. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: Bell had a very unusual and patient style in Pittsburgh. He waited, and waited....and eventually picked a hole because it developed. With the Jets? They should have seen this coming. You don’t have time to wait. You just get hit. I know money made the decision, because if it was about football he’d be a Steeler. I don’t hate him for that, he has to decide what’s best for him. I’m glad the Jets wasted so much cap space on a RB. Pittsburgh had a pretty decent line to boot and of course defenses couldn’t play too close to the line with brown and the other weapons and Ben throwing 40+ times a game. They really dropped the ball on probably their last chance for awhile at a Super Bowl run. If I was a Jet fan I would be completely demoralized with the entire state of their team and the contracts some of those guys have, especially since they were kind of in the exact same position as buffalo at the exact same time. I really don’t see much to build with on their roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Lol, why do people copy and paste these jumbled up stats all the time that are a nightmare to read instead of just typing the few key stats. Please consider yourself free to 1) ignore any posts you find hard to read 2) Show Us All How It's Properly Done 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 53 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SingDe00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BellLe00.htm Compared to what the Jets have paid Bell, Singletary was a real bargain! Another great move by McBeane!! And to think the Bills will have him cheaply for another 3 years! Lest of course, he holds out and demands a new contract based on his AWESOME rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Definitely a big offensive line difference there. Singletary I highly doubt could have the same impact with last years line. I don’t think bell is as elite as his Pittsburgh days but there’s no way he’s 3ypc bad. Jets should of used that Mosley money on the line. Or, Jets should have used the Bell money on the OL and picked up a capable RB anywhere - a run-of-the-mill RB can put up good numbers behind a strong OL Bell, it was always clear, is and was an RB who needs at least a sound line in front of him 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Kid's a beast. Special talent. Another key piece for our Championship run 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 42 minutes ago, TDTT said: Games Rushing Receiving Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rush Yds TD 1D Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD 1D Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV 2019 22 BUF rb 26 9 5 98 553 2 25 26 5.6 61.4 10.9 29 20 161 8.1 2 4 49 2.2 17.9 69.0% 5.6 118 6.1 714 4 2 2019 27 NYJ RB 26 12 12 183 589 3 25 19 3.2 49.1 15.3 67 55 403 7.3 1 19 23 4.6 33.6 82.1% 6.0 238 4.2 992 4 1 Singletary on top, Bell on bottom! These are always so painful to look at, maybe it's just on my phone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Pittsburgh had a pretty decent line to boot and of course defenses couldn’t play too close to the line with brown and the other weapons and Ben throwing 40+ times a game. They really dropped the ball on probably their last chance for awhile at a Super Bowl run. I think the Steelers would have still succeeded with Conner at RB. There would have been some drop off but Roethlesberger was what made the Steelers an elite franchise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Or, Jets should have used the Bell money on the OL and picked up a capable RB anywhere - a run-of-the-mill RB can put up good numbers behind a strong OL Bell, it was always clear, is and was an RB who needs at least a sound line in front of him Yeah they had a decent mix with powell and the other guy they let go I forget his name I think he went to Oakland and got hurt right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Kid's a beast. Special talent. Another key piece for our Championship run Makes me wonder.. have we handed it off to Devin 75+ times? Seems like we haven’t since he was under used and hurt early in the season. clearly we have but still. Edited December 8, 2019 by Nick the Greek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) Just wait till Beane finds us another RB in the draft next year. Two guys making half of what Bell makes. as Auggie said, Oline is a big reason why Singletary has had great success. Singletary also possesses great vision and balance and shifty moves. Edited December 8, 2019 by atlbillsfan1975 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: These are always so painful to look at, maybe it's just on my phone? Yeah, unfortunately on phone a number of things have troubles. It's quite readable on computer. 14 minutes ago, Nick the Greek said: Makes me wonder.. have we handed it off to Devin 75+ times? Seems like we haven’t since he was under used and hurt early in the season. 98 rush handoffs, 29 pass targets, 127 touches 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 This could also be used as a reason why teams shouldn’t pay big bucks for a RB and should keep recycling young RBs if you want to follow the Patriot model. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I have said since we drafted him that the Jets lost a chance to have a poor man's Bell in Singletary, they have similar styles and effectiveness. Obviously Singletary has been more available this year so therefore more valuable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Please consider yourself free to 1) ignore any posts you find hard to read 2) Show Us All How It's Properly Done If you turn your phone sideways into landscape mode everything lines up as it should and is readable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Singletary making around 1.5 million including signing bonus this year Bell making around 15 million including signing bonus this year. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I knew Bell would be a bust with the Jets. I could tell by his willingness to sit out last year that football wasn't a true passion of his and that was confirmed by all the time he missed in the off-season and pre-season. And I think that spending that amount of money on a RB's 2nd deal is insane, while it goes to show you that how a player performs in one system doesn't always translate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Please consider yourself free to 1) ignore any posts you find hard to read 2) Show Us All How It's Properly Done Sure, it’s easy. Bell: 589 rush yards, 3.2 ypc, 3 TDs. 55 rec, 403 yards 1 TD. Singletary: 553 yards, 5.6 ypc, 2 TDs. 20 rec, 161 yards, 2 TDs. Took like 30 seconds. You’re welcome. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, Doc said: I knew Bell would be a bust with the Jets. I could tell by his willingness to sit out last year that football wasn't a true passion of his and that was confirmed by all the time he missed in the off-season and pre-season. And I think that spending that amount of money on a RB's 2nd deal is insane, while it goes to show you that how a player performs in one system doesn't always translate. Well said. He basically gave up what at the time was a pretty good shot at the HOF for what he thought would be more $$. HOF seems like an incredible long shot now having missed an entire season and now putting up less than pedestrian numbers with the Jets. Two wasted years under the age of 30. Not going to get better for him as he ages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Nick the Greek said: Lest of course, he holds out and demands a new contract based on his AWESOME rookie year. All contracts for drafted rookies are now a mandatory four years in length and no such contract—even for young players who are dramatically undervalued—can be renegotiated until after three years have passed under the contract. ... As of this writing, several teams have their entire rookie class under contract.May 14, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) I watch a lot of college football and was singing his praises when we drafted him. Shifty in space, overlooked because of his size, college, and lack of a top end top gear. I thought he was first round talent 5-10 yards from the line of scrimmage. That is to say, the guy is hard to find, shifty, power, balance, acceleration. I really don't care if he's going to finish a 60 yard run or not at the clip he's breaking 10+ yard runs. Edited December 8, 2019 by KzooMike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Sure, it’s easy. Bell: 589 rush yards, 3.2 ypc, 3 TDs. 55 rec, 403 yards 1 TD. Singletary: 553 yards, 5.6 ypc, 2 TDs. 20 rec, 161 yards, 2 TDs. Took like 30 seconds. You’re welcome. Bit if he did it on computer or tablet how is he supposed to know it doesn’t line up on your phone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I told my fantasy football owners that Cole Beasley would have more receiving yards than LeVeon Bell would have rushing yards. 635 vs. 589. Damn the Jets make me look good!!! Always chumming along the bottom of the water... LOLZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Or, Jets should have used the Bell money on the OL and picked up a capable RB anywhere - a run-of-the-mill RB can put up good numbers behind a strong OL Bell, it was always clear, is and was an RB who needs at least a sound line in front of him Exactly why there were many level-headed fans on this board that were against the Bills allocating that much cap space to a RB like Bell, when you could just as easily find a productive player in the 3rd Rd of the draft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Phil The Thrill said: Exactly why there were many level-headed fans on this board that were against the Bills allocating that much cap space to a RB like Bell, when you could just as easily find a productive player in the 3rd Rd of the draft ESPECIALLY when that player held out in such a drama-filled fashion. Beane and McD have thrown the gauntlet down... NONE of that crap is accepted in Buffalo. They will take a chance if need be, but NEVER for that much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Augie said: 3 hours ago, Rc2catch said: last years line. I don’t think bell is as elite as his Pittsburgh days but there’s no way he’s 3ypc bad. Jets should of used that Mosley money on the line. Bell had a very unusual and patient style in Pittsburgh Bell totally relied on the Pgh O-line that was elite when he was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 more apt comparison is Willie Parker....He was a small RB who went to start for the Steelrs for several yearss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Just wait till Beane finds us another RB in the draft next year. Two guys making half of what Bell makes. as Auggie said. Oline is a big reason why. Singletary has great vision and balance and shifty moves. I too would like to see another (young) impact RB on the roster next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 6 hours ago, DefenseWins said: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SingDe00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BellLe00.htm Compared to what the Jets have paid Bell, Singletary was a real bargain! Another great move by McBeane!! And to think the Bills will have him cheaply for another 3 years! Never pays to overpay for a narcissistic RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Lol, why do people copy and paste these jumbled up stats all the time that are a nightmare to read instead of just typing the few key stats. I wouldn't exactly refer to them as "jumbled up stats". I posted the actual links to the Pro Football Reference page which has a wealth of more info on it for those who are interested in such things. Each to his own I guess. Some fans want more info while others want less. No harm either way as far as I am concerned. The essential thing here is that McBeane have a promising young player on their roster at a very affordable price for the next several years while the Jets seemingly overpaid and in my view could have used that money elsewhere (like their offensive line) to strengthen their team overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Jets star RB Le'Veon Bell (illness) to miss Week 14 The Jets announced Saturday that their star running back has been downgraded from questionable to out with an undisclosed illness, and will not play in the team's home matchup against the Miami Dolphins (3-9) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001084695/article/jets-star-rb-leveon-bell-illness-to-miss-week-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLbills Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Kid's a beast. Special talent. Another key piece for our Championship run Not to hijack the thread and maybe this belongs in the Bills / Ravens thread, but I couldn't help but notice that number 1 and number 4 in this list play for the Ravens. I sure hope McD and Frazier have some answers for this 2-headed monster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekills17 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 10 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: These are always so painful to look at, maybe it's just on my phone? Or you could try a PC... 43 minutes ago, FLbills said: Not to hijack the thread and maybe this belongs in the Bills / Ravens thread, but I couldn't help but notice that number 1 and number 4 in this list play for the Ravens. I sure hope McD and Frazier have some answers for this 2-headed monster. Actually, #s 4 & 5 play for the 49er's. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLbills Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, timekills17 said: Or you could try a PC... Actually, #s 4 & 5 play for the 49er's. You're right, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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