warrior9 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Out of all of his year here, we failed to win consistently and aside from the one play off appearance he didn't see much of it, period. The year after he leaves, we have this fantastic season and the best start in 20 years. I wish he would have been able to be apart of something like this. I'm sure he's happy for the organization but I can't help but wonder if he's a little bitter that in his 13 years here, we couldn't put this type of team on the field with him. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Would be awesome if he were still with the team this season. But, I'm sure he's enjoying the fact that he can be around the team and enjoy in their success without having to put in all the work. He seems pretty content to be retired. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I dunno, I think he can rest easy in knowing that he has done a lot to help make this team what it is- from his example and leadership both as a player, and then during camp this year. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, blacklabel said: Would be awesome if he were still with the team this season. But, I'm sure he's enjoying the fact that he can be around the team and enjoy in their success without having to put in all the work. He seems pretty content to be retired. Right right, I get that. It's just that i would have liked for someone that has been such an integral part of and believed in the organization to have seen some more winning. Just so happens that after he retires, we do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, warrior9 said: Out of all of his year here, we failed to win consistently and aside from the one play off appearance he didn't see much of it, period. The year after he leaves, we have this fantastic season and the best start in 20 years. I wish he would have been able to be apart of something like this. I'm sure he's happy for the organization but I can't help but wonder if he's a little bitter that in his 13 years here, we couldn't put this type of team on the field with him. It’s hard to justify being bitter about what life gave you when you’re a millionaire many times over, just sayin.... KW had a good career, and I’ll bet you he’s a happy man. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I don't. The Bills were never really terrible when Kyle played. They were always 'in the hunt' right around Thanksgiving. Not sure that players really want anything more. And remember...this season isn't over yet. Anything can happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Thought about this yesterday, but I'm guessing he is pretty content. He did get to play in a playoff game before retiring, and he knew he was leaving the franchise in good hands with McBeane and Allen. Plus, he's a millionaire and a great golfer. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: I don't. The Bills were never really terrible when Kyle played. They were always 'in the hunt' right around Thanksgiving. Not sure that players really want anything more. And remember...this season isn't over yet. Anything can happen. You mean like Kyle signing as depth for a playoff run? ? 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Thought about this yesterday, but I'm guessing he is pretty content. He did get to play in a playoff game before retiring, and he knew he was leaving the franchise in good hands with McBeane and Allen. Plus, he's a millionaire and a great golfer. ? Fair. I mean in terms of his personal life, yeah he'll be alright. I just wish he was able to experience this as a player, i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, warrior9 said: Out of all of his year here, we failed to win consistently and aside from the one play off appearance he didn't see much of it, period. The year after he leaves, we have this fantastic season and the best start in 20 years. I wish he would have been able to be apart of something like this. I'm sure he's happy for the organization but I can't help but wonder if he's a little bitter that in his 13 years here, we couldn't put this type of team on the field with him. I don't think bitter, but envious perhaps? Lee Smith said he called Kyle (whom he knew from his first stint with the Bills) and asked his view on Allen and where the Bills were headed, and that what Kyle said sold him - that Allen was the QB he wished the Bills had had during his entire career instead of the final year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Almost similar to the way Fred Smerlas' career ended. Right at the wrong time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) Man if this team really turns into something long term, Kyle is going to be well-remembered as a career Bill who helped set the tone for McD and the whole deal that playoff-drought breaking season. Kyle's initials are scratched in the concrete of the foundation. Edited December 2, 2019 by Golden*Wheels 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't think bitter, but envious perhaps? Lee Smith said he called Kyle (whom he knew from his first stint with the Bills) and asked his view on Allen and where the Bills were headed, and that what Kyle said sold him - that Allen was the QB he wished the Bills had had during his entire career instead of the final year. Yeah, I do remember him mentioning that.... Bittersweet, envious, yeah I think those are good words. 2 minutes ago, Golden*Wheels said: Man if this team really turns into something long term, Kyle is going to be well-remembered there as a career Bill who helped set the tone for McD and the whole deal that playoff-drought breaking season. Kyle's initials are scratched in the concrete of the foundation. And I think that's important to note. For guys like Harry, and Jordan Phillips, and Jerry Hughes, Shaq, etc in his position group. But then teaming with guys like Lorax and their presence to exemplify leadership. Edited December 2, 2019 by warrior9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, warrior9 said: Out of all of his year here, we failed to win consistently and aside from the one play off appearance he didn't see much of it, period. The year after he leaves, we have this fantastic season and the best start in 20 years. I wish he would have been able to be apart of something like this. I'm sure he's happy for the organization but I can't help but wonder if he's a little bitter that in his 13 years here, we couldn't put this type of team on the field with him. If there is ANYONE who got shafted the most, it was Eric Moulds. I am thoroughly convinced that had Eric Moulds had the kind of QB an offense others of his era had, he would be wearing a gold jacket soon. He was by far the greatest talent we have had in Buffalo since our SB run and we just couldn't build around him and it still galls me. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Yeah unfortunately with the NFL there are so many great players who barely get to sniff the postseason. Eric Moulds and Kyle for us. Joe Thomas for the Browns, Gerald McCoy for the Bucs. We could probably make our own thread of players who got shafted based on the teams they were on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I’m saving my pity for Jimbo, Thurman, Bruce and Andre..........................after we win the Super Bowl! ? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BfloBillsFan Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) I was thinking the same thing for Eric Woods. Not as long of a career as Kyle, yet a leader for many years and only to get to playoffs once Edited December 3, 2019 by BfloBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 My guess is he is enjoying the season along with the rest of the team. Its not like he left town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) I wouldn’t be surprised if he and McDermott have each other on speed dial should we need some depth/injury coverage in the DL for the postseason. He still looks like he’s ready to play tomorrow if the call came in. if we needed him desperately, he answers that call 100% of the time. Edited December 2, 2019 by KingBoots8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, HOUSE said: My guess is he is enjoying the season along with the rest of the team. Its not like he left town Plus, he probably feels a LOT better on Monday mornings! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't think bitter, but envious perhaps? Lee Smith said he called Kyle (whom he knew from his first stint with the Bills) and asked his view on Allen and where the Bills were headed, and that what Kyle said sold him - that Allen was the QB he wished the Bills had had during his entire career instead of the final year. I enjoyed watching Kyle Williams play and think he seems like a pretty decent guy so I am not going to let him influencing Lee 'Yellow Flag' Smith come to Buffalo ruin that for me. Edited December 2, 2019 by Bob Chandler's Hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 51 minutes ago, warrior9 said: Out of all of his year here, we failed to win consistently and aside from the one play off appearance he didn't see much of it, period. The year after he leaves, we have this fantastic season and the best start in 20 years. I wish he would have been able to be apart of something like this. I'm sure he's happy for the organization but I can't help but wonder if he's a little bitter that in his 13 years here, we couldn't put this type of team on the field with him. Dont worry... he knows it’s a soft schedule ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 He's still pretty involved with the team. He did the narraration for the Bills Hard Knockoff (Just made that name up while I was typing this) on YouTube. Also helped Oliver out during training camp. Gave a pretty cool speech to the players about what this team actually means to the community. (Paraphrasing) "Teams in LA, Chicago, New York. They're luxuries. The people there are there to woo clients and such. In Buffalo, the people there are the die hard fans who love this team." Wouldn't be surprised if he's brought back in some sort of coaching role in the next year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Loved Kyle. One of my favorite Bills. Thst said, he was at the end of his career. He went when he needed to and I think he did better as a "trainer" then he would have as a player this spring. He can know this. The D is special and he helped make it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Damn Kyle, I wish you could have been a part of our best start in 20 years and a good season? I can't get there. I'd feel bad for Kyle if we win the super bowl - I'd obviously wish he could be part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon_Bean Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I've been thinking about Fred Jackson lately, wish he could play on this team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I feel for Kyle, but he left on his own terms. Unlike Eric Woods, who had to leave the game because of his health. On the same note. How much fun would be if Terrance McGee and Freddie Jackson were also part of this. I know Terrance is a bit of a stretch because he played so long ago, but no less deserving IMO. Even though there is a lot to be proud of, up to this point. There is still so much work left to be done. Lets keep it rolling. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) Meatball helped break that damn curse, running one in for a touchdown no less. He’s a Bills legend for sure. He doesn’t need this season for that. Edited December 2, 2019 by Nick the Greek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Maybe he was the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Hire him as a Consultant just to become a Bills employee so he can get a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Maybe he was the problem. Yeah man... he was solely the problem. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 wish I could feel bad for a millionaire who played the game he loved to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I liked Kyle. But I feel worse for Takeo Spikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Shaping up to be much like Don Mattingly's career with the Yankees. Played all those years with no playoffs, then got to make a brief playoff appearance before retiring and then the team had great success after he left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon_Bean Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I liked Kyle. But I feel worse for Takeo Spikes. Yeah, Bills fans convinced him to sign here, and that was it for his career basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Golden*Wheels said: Man if this team really turns into something long term, Kyle is going to be well-remembered as a career Bill who helped set the tone for McD and the whole deal that playoff-drought breaking season. Kyle's initials are scratched in the concrete of the foundation. Very well said indeed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Kyle will be enjoying the success without all the bruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Kyle is still in touch with the team. I'm sure they'll include him appropriately as the team has success. He was an important foundation for what McBeane are building, and they won't forget. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Frankly, I don't feel one bit sorry for Kyle. Sincerely, Archie Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, warrior9 said: Out of all of his year here, we failed to win consistently and aside from the one play off appearance he didn't see much of it, period. The year after he leaves, we have this fantastic season and the best start in 20 years. I wish he would have been able to be apart of something like this. I'm sure he's happy for the organization but I can't help but wonder if he's a little bitter that in his 13 years here, we couldn't put this type of team on the field with him. Yup, as a Yankees fan I’m reminded of Don Mattingly- same situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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