Is Jason Garrett coaching for his job Thursday?

[BmarvB]

If we beat them tomorrow, he's definitely on the hot seat, and most likely coaching the Giants next season

Edited November 27, 2019 by BmarvB

[Heitz]

6 minutes ago, H2o said:

 

The good news is the ? is finally on the other team's shoe...

 

Edited November 27, 2019 by Heitz

[Foxx]

6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Let's say the Bills lead 28-0 midway. Does Garrett get fired at halftime?

or does he simply quit, ala Vontae? 

[dpberr]

IMO, regardless of how the season plays out, he won't get fired until the Giants and Redskins make decisions about their head coaching vacancies.  

 

The last thing JJ wants is seeing Garrett coach against the Cowboys in the division.  You may say "so what?" to that but Garrett walks out the door with over a decade (been in a coaching capacity of some sort since 2007) of corporate knowledge about the Cowboys.  A guy with that longevity, as they say,  "knows where the bodies are buried."  Plus, it'd just likely piss off JJ.  

 

The Cowboys season isn't over.  They can win that division.  

[H2o]

1 minute ago, Foxx said:

or does he simply quit, ala Vontae? 

Or does the team simply refuse to follow him out ala Varsity Blues?

[Nanker]

16 minutes ago, Foxx said:

if he fires Jason after the Bills beat the snot out of them, he could promote Kris Richard to interim HC to get a feel for how he would do as a permanent replacement.

 

10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I believe that he is. They will make Kris Richard the interim HC if he loses. 

Do it Jerry. Do it.

 

[Kirby Jackson]

The story is written on JG. Outside of a Super Bowl appearance this year he’s done. 

[YoloinOhio]

I’ve never heard Jerruh so pissed. I think he’s cranky that they are paying so much money for this roster and have drafted well and he’s stuck in neutral. Just making the playoffs isn’t good enough. He wants a SB. Losing to the Bills would send him over the edge. If they win tomorrow (I do think they will unfortunately), I think he’s gone eventually unless they are at least in the nfc championship. 

Edited November 27, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[416BillsFan]

What worries me about tomorrow is that JG always seems to do just enough to keep his job.

[Big Turk]

No. Why don't people believe Jones when a reporter asked him directly if he would replace Garrett before the end of the year and he said "The answer is no. Period."

 

Seems pretty clear Garrett will finish out the season.

 

 

Edited November 27, 2019 by matter2003

[KD in CA]

38 minutes ago, stuvian said:

If he doesn't win the NFCE in this the weakest year in memory then he should walk the plank

 

Yup.  With that roster, Dallas should be one of the top teams in the NFC. They have underperformed.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

I'm very concerned, I tell you.

 

VERY concerned.

 

 

[Say When...]

2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

I'm very concerned, I tell you.

 

VERY concerned.

 

 

 

but you hope you're wrong!

[Foxx]

8 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

No. Why don't people believe Jones when a reporter asked him directly if he would replace Garrett before the end of the year and he said "The answer is no. Period."

 

Seems pretty clear Garrett will finish out the season.

 

 

right. because no coach, ever, has been fired after receiving unconditional support.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, Say When... said:

 

but you hope you're wrong!

 

I'm not actually concerned.

 

Only one team remaining exudes any kind of an aura that causes me anything remotely resembling concern: Baltimore.

 

[Say When...]

1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I'm not actually concerned.

 

Only one team remaining exudes any kind of an aura that causes me anything remotely resembling concern: Baltimore.

 

 

oh I get it; i was just finishing the common response.

 

after the word 'concerned' you must end it with 'i hope i'm wrong'.

[GunnerBill]

No in that I don't believe he is fired in season. I think he is coaching for his job from here on out though. And squeaking into the playoffs at 9-7 might not be enough. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

46 minutes ago, Heitz said:

Completely agree; makes this a dangerous game for us.  They'll either come out, fired-up to save their leader - or they'll ? the bed ?

if they do the latter would that take away from a buffalo win on the national stage? it seems the media and some fans would use anything they can to discredit a bills win just as many look at the bills as the worst 8-3 team in the nfl and see them more as an 3-8 team?

 

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Not unless he loses his blackmail photos of Jerry’s liverspotted private parts 

[JPP]

If the Bills blow them out in an embarrising fashion than i can see Jerry cutting the cord right away....other than that he survives the season......well as long as they still get into the post season that is

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

27 minutes ago, Say When... said:

 

oh I get it; i was just finishing the common response.

 

after the word 'concerned' you must end it with 'i hope i'm wrong'.

 

Of course! My bad I shoulda recognized that

 

[eanyills]

2 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said:

They are still leading their division. It's not that bad. 

 

Different expectations. You think Jerry Jones is happy with simply a division leader? Especially one if they lost to the perceived lowly Buffalo Bills on Thanksgiving?

[Chicken Boo]

He'll likely get an extension. 

 

Above all else, Jerrah loves him a loyal subordinate and that's Jason Garrett in a nutshell.

[Manther]

3 hours ago, The Wiz said:

He'll last until the seasons over unless Buffalo completely dominate and win handedly. 

 

Then some action might happen sooner. 

I agree

 

I think he should be fired.  For at least 4 years Jason Garrett has under performed (IMO) based on potential.  The Cowboys should have been very dominate the last 4 years, but, they are always just in the (upper) of the middle pack.

Edited November 27, 2019 by Manther

[billspro]

I don’t like that they have extra motivation this week. I think both teams will play their best football this week. 

[HOUSE]

The pressure of Dak Prescott new deal is clearly wearing old Jerry down

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, benderbender said:

If Jones had fires Garrett after the Patriots game, the blowback and criticism would have been massive. The Patriots have a good record, it might have been seen as an overreaction. But a loss to the Bills at home is completely different scenario and it seems by his subtle hints and not so subtle hints that this loss would be the back breaker. 
 

Would the Cowboys break tradition and fire Garrett in season after a prime time home field loss when being favored by almost a touchdown? Does he survive a close loss?

 

So the only coach Jerry Jones has fired in season to my knowledge was Wade Phillips, who was replaced by Jason Garrett after a 1-7 start.

Other coaching changes have always been made after the season

 

The worst that can happen after this weekend is that the Cowboys would be tied for division lead, and currently own the tiebreaker.

 

It would be kind of radical to fire a coach who has the team tied for the division lead during the season, even after they lose to a team with a better record.

 

That's not to say Jerry wouldn't do it.

[Augie]

3 hours ago, H2o said:

The only way Garrett gets fired is if Buffalo completely shellacs them tomorrow. Other than that Jerry will just keep him around until the end of the year when his contract runs out. 

 

I generally don’t want anyone getting fired, but I could get 100% behind this!  ?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Yup

[Chaos]

15 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

No in that I don't believe he is fired in season. I think he is coaching for his job from here on out though. And squeaking into the playoffs at 9-7 might not be enough. 

The NFL has different levels of head coaching failure.  Missing the playoffs almost every year is one kind of a failure.  Making the playoffs every year and being one and done is another kind of failure (see Marvin Lewis) , however fans of the teams who miss the playoffs every year think Lewis is a success.  Winning playoff games but never winning the big one is third kind of failure (see Mary Shottenheimer, Dan Quinn) .  Fans of the first two types failures think these coaches are a success.  The next type of failure is not winning enough super bowls recently (see Tom Landry, Mike McCarthy).    Its a rare few coaches who aren't ultimately fired to end their head coaching career.  

[GunnerBill]

52 minutes ago, Chaos said:

The NFL has different levels of head coaching failure.  Missing the playoffs almost every year is one kind of a failure.  Making the playoffs every year and being one and done is another kind of failure (see Marvin Lewis) , however fans of the teams who miss the playoffs every year think Lewis is a success.  Winning playoff games but never winning the big one is third kind of failure (see Mary Shottenheimer, Dan Quinn) .  Fans of the first two types failures think these coaches are a success.  The next type of failure is not winning enough super bowls recently (see Tom Landry, Mike McCarthy).    Its a rare few coaches who aren't ultimately fired to end their head coaching career.  

 

It is the same in all coaching. I was a relatively successful semi pro soccer coach. My first club I did a turnaround job and from them finishing in the bottom 5 of a 20 team league every year before I got there I left after finishing 4th in the final of my 4 seasons. That was hailed as a huge success and I left to take a job with one of the teams who perennially finished in the top 5 but had a down year the year before. We finished 3rd and missed out on being champions and promoted to the next division by one point. I thought that was a pretty good effort. The owner and some of the supporters did not necessarily agree. I lost 2 of my first 4 games the next season and was fired. It isn't only the NFL that stands for "Not For Long". 

Edited November 28, 2019 by GunnerBill

[JinxedBill]

Garrett has been coaching there forever and they haven’t accomplished nothing.

 

Id be pissed if I was Jerry too.  As a shrewd businessman he’d have cut ties along time ago.  That’s prob what makes him so ma.

Edited November 28, 2019 by JinxedBill

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

 

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Report: If fired, Jason Garrett’s preferred destination is the Giants

Posted by Mike Florio on November 24, 2019, 10:32 AM EST

 

As Cowboys coach Jason Garrett embarks on what could be the final six games of his tenure in Texas, someone connected to Garrett is offering a not-so-subtle warning to Jones & Son, LLC: If you don’t keep Garrett, he may end up coaching one of your biggest rivals.

 

Ian Rapoport of the NFL has floated the idea of Garrett landing with the Giants, if the Cowboys opt not to give him a new contract and if the Giants tear up the remaining years on Pat Shurmur’s deal.

 

The biggest kernel of news is that the Giants would be Garrett’s top choice if the Cowboys don’t keep him. And that may indeed be true. But the fact that it’s coming out now is hardly a coincidence. It’s a be-careful-what-you-wish-for jab at Jerry Jones, reminding him that, if he doesn’t want Garrett, someone else may.

 

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/24/report-if-fired-jason-garretts-preferred-destination-is-the-giants/

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

18 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Yup.  With that roster, Dallas should be one of the top teams in the NFC. They have underperformed.

 

 

...but you're talking DALLAS and JURRAH.....the President, GM, Sanitary Engineer, Head Chef, Draft Guru, Director of Nothing and Azzclown Extraordinaire....didn't he pay the "Walk On Water Garrett" more as OC than he was paying Wade as HC?.....

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

We’ll find out soon enough 

[DuckyBoys]

Jones will lose face if he doesn't do something  Garrett has never done anything in the playoffs.  They wasted Romo and now are wasting Dak/Elliot/Cooper  He keeps Garrett he is basically saying the team he out together is a failure

[klos63]

On 11/27/2019 at 2:22 PM, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

if they do the latter would that take away from a buffalo win on the national stage? it seems the media and some fans would use anything they can to discredit a bills win just as many look at the bills as the worst 8-3 team in the nfl and see them more as an 3-8 team?

 

 

Seriously. Are we still on the lack of respect schtick?    Do people really see the Bills as an 3-8 team?  Why do you listen to them?

[Saint Doug]

Jason will be coach the Giants next year. It’s not a demotion, but a promotion. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

I think Jerry forced him to go for it on 4th and 1 at the 19

[DuckyBoys]

10 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I think Jerry forced him to go for it on 4th and 1 at the 19

I think Garrett is daring Jerry to can him.  That team is a mess.  Zeke with a massive contract and now they want to be a passing team.  Dak wanting 40M a year  No way the keep Cooper as well  Defense soft