wiseman3 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 8 rushing attempts against the 30th ranked D against the run, and 41 pass attempts against the 4th ranked D against the pass. Daboll needs to go 18 4 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Same story different week how hard is it for McDermott to say run the ball with Singletary or find a different job. lots of blame to go around on our no commitment to the run game. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Run Run Pass Punt They gave up early. Browns were playing for the jobs, like the Eagles earlier. Bills were still sleeping on the bus until the second to last drive, then D was spent. On D, Levi Wallace needs help. Coaches bought the week one hype, and when you move Poyer out for support they just destroy the run because Star is always on the ground and Edmunds can't shed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, wiseman3 said: 8 rushing attempts against the 30th ranked D against the run, and 41 pass attempts against the 4th ranked D against the pass. Daboll needs to go I think Daboll actually has a darn good playbook. We don't know if he calls two plays each time and gives Allen the option to check out of a run or pass. I do think he belongs in the press box so he can see what the rest of us seem to see with his playcalling tendencies. And yes, run the got dang ball more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 The one problem is people don't want Gore to run it and I agree but they need a bruising back to wear down the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I'm really confused and ticked off with this. The Bills give up on the run far to easily. Are our opponents really stacking the box so there's no option. If so, we shoud be able to accomplish more passing, so I don't think this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 The line doesn't run block well. Gore is slow and aging every week. Cutting McCoy was dumb. Making Morse highest paid center in the league is another overpayment by Beane. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Conlan58 said: I think Daboll actually has a darn good playbook. We don't know if he calls two plays each time and gives Allen the option to check out of a run or pass. I do think he belongs in the press box so he can see what the rest of us seem to see with his playcalling tendencies. And yes, run the got dang ball more. I think he may have a good playbook too; but I am not sure if he is a good playcaller. There is a distinction. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Learn from it or hit the road Daboll. You are testing all of our patience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 More jet sweeps. Cleveland plays undisciplined run D. A couple decent gainers would've had them on tilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Not even seeing what you got with Singletary is an utter travesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suorangefan4 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) And yet he had only 21 yards on 5 carries in the second half. One of those a 10-yard run. 4 for 11 yards on the other 4 carries. That's only a 4.025 yard average and just under half of those came on one carry. Running the ball wasn't exactly working too well in the second half. People really act like a 2 or 3 yard run is better than a 6 or 7 yard pass. I don't get it. Edited November 10, 2019 by suorangefan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, NC Book said: More jet sweeps. Cleveland plays undisciplined run D. A couple decent gainers would've had them on tilt. Yes, but take Lee Smith off the damn field. He was a liability today. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Every 2nd and 1 the past 2 weeks has been a run to Gore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I totally agree that the Bills should have run more today and not just run more but attacked the edges of the Browns’ D. That said, WRs were open a lot today and Allen missed them. Consistently. So, the complaint is really, “Daboll needs to protect the Bills from bad QB play by not relying on the QB to make plays.” Personally, I agree with this but there are plenty of people on this board who simultaneously think Allen is doing a good job AND want the Bills to feature the running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: 8 rushing attempts against the 30th ranked D against the run, and 41 pass attempts against the 4th ranked D against the pass. Daboll needs to go Yeah, this is really odd. Doesn't make sense. Going into this game Singletary looked like the answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 The entire season has just been, week after week of not using our best weapon on offense. It’s so stupid and today it probably cost us a chance at the playoffs. Dabol is a complete idiot. It really is that simple 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Our offense is a hot mess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Dabols dumbass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: 8 rushing attempts against the 30th ranked D against the run, and 41 pass attempts against the 4th ranked D against the pass. Daboll needs to go McD sets the guidance. So if Daboll needs to go should McClappy get yet ANOTHER hire at OC? should I also Add WRs open all over QB couldn’t hit them consistently. But is Firing Daboll gets me closer to Firing McD I am all for it Edited November 10, 2019 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: 8 rushing attempts against the 30th ranked D against the run, and 41 pass attempts against the 4th ranked D against the pass. Daboll needs to go I figured this would happen as soon as the Browns got the lead and if it were the other way around we might have seen the Singletary of last week. 20 carries for 95 yards, 3 receptions for 45 yards. Daboll did this all last season when the opponent got the lead...he goes pass happy with a young, inexperienced QB... against a defense this week with the #2 in the NFL sack leader! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) As I said in the pregame thread, given the anticipated windy conditions I expected Allen to throw 40+ times. Dabol didn't disappoint. Edited November 10, 2019 by Haslett_Stomp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Singletary had the most rushing attempts. Second most was Josh with 6 for 28, followed by Gore with 5 for 12. Dabfool doesn't like to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Haslett_Stomp said: As I said in the pregame thread, given the anticipated windy conditions I expected Allen to throw 40+ times. Dabol didn't disappoint. Well, he kind of did. And I’m speaking of Dabfool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, suorangefan4 said: And yet he had only 21 yards on 5 carries in the second half. One of those a 10-yard run. 4 for 11 yards on the other 4 carries. That's only a 4.025 yard average and just under half of those came on one carry. Running the ball wasn't exactly working too well in the second half. People really act like a 2 or 3 yard run is better than a 6 or 7 yard pass. I don't get it. Yeah, but you stay with it. The Bills shut down Chubb on a few downs, but the Browns stuck with him. Five carries in an entire half does not show patience--or intelligence, not when you're going against a poor run defense with an excellent back and opt instead for a QB with one receiver going against an excellent pass defense. Boggles the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) The trenches are still the weak point of this team...o-line can't run block very well or pass protect consistently..d-line can't get pressure on the qb nor push opposing o-lines back on rush attempts....Daboll absolutely needs relieved of his duties or at the very least remanded to the booth for the rest of the year....still don't think the booth will help Dabol bc he shows a total misunderstanding of situational play calling Edited November 10, 2019 by Billever76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Cleveland is 30th against the run, 4th against the pass and Daboll abandons the run again. This guy is plain lousy. Edited November 10, 2019 by billsfan_34 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: 8 rushing attempts against the 30th ranked D against the run, and 41 pass attempts against the 4th ranked D against the pass. Daboll needs to go I agree, Gore cannot get to the outside and is a one dimensional inside power runner. How Singletary doesn’t get 20 carries a game is ***** mind boggling. Either way we lost to Cleveland, even if we do somehow squeeze into the playoffs my expectations are low. I think its now safe to say that you need a new OC and picking another QB if he fall to you in the draft is definitely on the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: McD sets the guidance. So if Daboll needs to go should McClappy get yet ANOTHER hire at OC? should I also Add WRs open all over QB couldn’t hit them consistently. But is Firing Daboll gets me closer to Firing McD I am all for it 4 drops. >>> Open WR <-- ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 There's something just missing here, in addition to the lack of runs against a supposedly bad run D. I was expecting us to dial up runs and I just have to believe there was a legit reason why we didn't. The whole offense just lacks identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, Billever76 said: The trenches are still the weak point of this team...oline cant run block very well or pass protect consistently..dline can get pressure on the qb nor push opposing olines back on rush attempts....daboll absolutely needs relieved of his duties or at the very least remanded to the booth for the rest of the year....still don't think the booth will help dabol bc he shows a total misunderstanding of situational play calling Pass protection for the most part has been A plus. Allen has to learn to slide up into the pocket. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suorangefan4 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, finn said: Yeah, but you stay with it. The Bills shut down Chubb on a few downs, but the Browns stuck with him. Five carries in an entire half does not show patience--or intelligence, not when you're going against a poor run defense with an excellent back and opt instead for a QB with one receiver going against an excellent pass defense. Boggles the mind. That's why he didn't get more carries. When you're not getting yards on your carries you're putting the team in a passing down. A lot of Bills drives die when we run too much too. Why people can't admit that is beyond me. Like I've said many times in the past... there's a reason why passing the ball usually averages at least 3 more yards per play than running it does. I'm glad the Bills finally want to be a passing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, billsfan_34 said: Pass protection for the most part has been A plus. Allen has to learn to slide up into the pocket. So Dawkins letting Garret get clean off the edge twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 And it felt like he was averaging like 8 ypc on the runs he DID get WTF Deboll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BurpleBull Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: 8 rushing attempts against the 30th ranked D against the run, and 41 pass attempts against the 4th ranked D against the pass. Daboll needs to go Mobile, Ala. -- When new Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll spoke for the first time since he was hired, he wasn't ready to open up the playbook or evaluate the roster. But in those 10 minutes at the Senior Bowl, Daboll did give some insight into what some of his core offensive beliefs are as well as what he picked up over his career as an offensive coordinator in college and the pros. "I've been doing this for a long time, and again it comes down to preparation throughout the week," Daboll said. "You have to understand what your players do well, the strengths of your players, and then you have to try to understand the strengths and weaknesses of the team your playing. There's no secret recipe to a good call. You have to put the time and the work in just like the players do to give yourself a good chance." Forsaking his foundation...I imagine the end is near for Daboll. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suorangefan4 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, John from Riverside said: And it felt like he was averaging like 8 ypc on the runs he DID get WTF Deboll What? His carries in the 2nd half were all getting stuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, marky said: So Dawkins letting Garret get clean off the edge twice. Garret is ELITE and those things will happen. Allen MUST learn to sense the pressure and slide up and fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: 8 rushing attempts against the 30th ranked D against the run, and 41 pass attempts against the 4th ranked D against the pass. That's a question ownership should be asking their coaching staff. Right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) And some people think our O coordinator Cueball isn't a problem. Sigletary 8 carries, Gore 5. 13 rushes by backs against a team that struggled stopping the run. There is no confidence in the running game. Possession before half - missed FG possession after half.... plays 27 yards - Punt possession after safety...3 and out Three straight possessions and no points. What a hot mess Edited November 10, 2019 by Azucho98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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