GunnerBill Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Rochesterfan said: I honestly think the a Jets have put themselves in a very difficult place. The hired a coach that did not get along with the GM. Let that GM run FA and the draft where they got guys that did not fit what they wanted and way overpayed. Sided with the coach after the draft and booted the GM to the curb. Let the coach make trades for a couple of weeks while doing a token GM search. Hire a guy that was basically the coaches choice (he may or may not be able to run a team). Let that GM and coach go through a trade deadline where they traded a former top 10 for a 3rd and 5th and took offers on several other very vocal players, but refused to make trades because they overvalued the players. Now on top of a losing culture and some already toxic culture - you have a bunch of vocal players that know they are not wanted. Now the coach that you hired to fix everything you realize is a moron and now you are stuck with all of the rest of his choices - even getting rid of him - you still have his GM - so how much leeway does he have - do you let him hire a new coach, but if the talent does come - now you are firing a GM with a coach in place or do you clan house and get rid of the coach and GM and try to build this right? It is just crazy. Glad it is not us for once. Yep. It is a total mess created by ownership. I think they have to stick with Joe Douglas and trust him to make the show work. He was a genuinely sought after personnel guy. Give him control let him start afresh at the HC spot and tell him he will be judged from next year on based on his coach hire and his personnel moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Why fire Gase? Let him take you to 1-15 and trade that 1st/2nd overall pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 People were worried about the Jets before the season started, and I recall saying that as long as they have Gase as HC there's nothing to worry about. He's going to replace Rich Kotite as the worst Jets coach in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 6 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: Aren't you supposed to give new hires atleast til their 3rd year before you fire them? Everyone seemed to have that mentality here with Rex......... Rex was 8-8 his first year. Where is the comparison with what is going on with Gase? And There were here some people here who wanted him gone anyway after the first year and most wanted him gone the 2nd year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 If I was the owner I'd clean house now, however if I was the owner I would not have hired Gase & Williams, and then allowed Gase to force out my GM. It just started off all wrong. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I really think the Jets deserve a fresh start: Fire everyone, hire Wrecks as GM, and let him hire his coach. Hey, it worked for Marv...didn’t it? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 56 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yep. It is a total mess created by ownership. I think they have to stick with Joe Douglas and trust him to make the show work. He was a genuinely sought after personnel guy. Give him control let him start afresh at the HC spot and tell him he will be judged from next year on based on his coach hire and his personnel moves. I totally agree - I am just not sure if the remaining players trust him or if all of the blame gets heaped on Gase. If he retains any of the blame - keeping these players will be tough for Douglas. I also wonder if this gives a guy like Jim Schwartz a potential opening as a stabilizing force and a connection from Philadelphia? Or maybe Mike Groh with his Rams and Philadelphia connection and a younger offensive coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Fire him? I'm hoping they give him an extension and GM duties. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 15 hours ago, FUTURIST said: Unfortunately for the Bills, the Jets and Dolphins coaches will not be coaching their teams for long. Both are not NFL head coach material. The longer they stay around the better for the Bills. Flores might be around longer than you think. I've been impressed with him the last few weeks. Management gave him virtually nothing to work with and this team plays hard and is more disciplined than I thought. If Miami can hit on half of those bounty of picks they have they could make some noise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Good lord no! I hope they keep him for years to come. Or, if they fire him, I hope they hire Rex Ryan or Freddie Kitchens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 As a Bills fan, I hope they give Gase at LEAST two more years! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Yeah, please give him more time LOL! He’s destroying Darnold too, it’s beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 So I Figured I would pop over to the Jets Message Boards. One on Darnold is a Bust https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/148263-darnold-major-bust/ https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/did-darnold-progress-digress-egress-merged.90928/ A Ton on Gase https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/148117-beningo-fire-gase-plane-getting-booked-to-fly-over-metlife-in-2-weeks/ https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/148256-andy-slater-gase-told-before-game-hed-be-fired-if-they-lost/ https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/fire-gase-now-the-all-anti-gase-thread.92814/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I tried to make an account on those JN forums but my account has been awaiting approval for like 3 weeks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: I tried to make an account on those JN forums but my account has been awaiting approval for like 3 weeks now. Despite the animosity between ’them’ and ‘us’, we warned them... Edited November 4, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Despite the animosity between ’them’ and ‘us’, we warned them... Oh well, seems like it could have been fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 44 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Honestly, the first one is a better throw than the second... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Honestly, the first one is a better throw than the second... This is an excellent rant: https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-adam-gase-lose-to-dolphins-20191103-t4wqvvto3bdh3hzkr4fb4o32g4-story.html?__twitter_impression=true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 If I was Darnold, I would just blame it on residual effects of the prescriptions from the bout with mono. I would not confirm or deny any questions regarding the smelling salts. (Recommended by 4 out of 5 NYJ players and coaches!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Not sure if this is worth anything, but here it is... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Fitz 3 TDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Not sure if this is worth anything, but here it is... It was probably indigestion. Soft pretzels with mustard will get you every time. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Can't fire him yet. This is just too much fun to watch,? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 this has to be one of the worst losses/moments in a long list of them for the franchise, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 ummmmmmm XFL Piling on 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 What would be the shortest reign as a HC hired by a team during an offseason? Has anyone ever been fired before finishing a season (I'm not including BB being hired then quiting the Jets job, or counting guys that were given the job on an interim basis during a season)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: This is an excellent rant: https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets-adam-gase-lose-to-dolphins-20191103-t4wqvvto3bdh3hzkr4fb4o32g4-story.html?__twitter_impression=true That’s great. I’d like to hear what Joe Benigno on NYC Fan has to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: So I Figured I would pop over to the Jets Message Boards. One on Darnold is a Bust https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/148263-darnold-major-bust/ https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/did-darnold-progress-digress-egress-merged.90928/ A Ton on Gase https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/148117-beningo-fire-gase-plane-getting-booked-to-fly-over-metlife-in-2-weeks/ https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/148256-andy-slater-gase-told-before-game-hed-be-fired-if-they-lost/ https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/fire-gase-now-the-all-anti-gase-thread.92814/ I remember seeing those boards after week 1 and I was shocked with how many posters had Darnold locked in as a tried and true franchise QB, while Allen was proven as garbage-heap bound. Even now, I wouldn't bet on either of these guys either way. I would feel pretty good as a Dolphins fan. Flores seems to have motivated these guys to come back and really compete every week. Bodes well for the future, especially with a glut of picks and salary freedom. Edited November 4, 2019 by May Day 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) The Jets made the same mistake the Bills did with Rex Ryan. Never hire a coach who was just fired the season before. All they do is continue doing the things that got themselves fired in the first place. Need time for self reflection and identify what went wrong. Miami's players quit on Gase and I suspect the Jets quit on him by game two of the season. I think he's a smart Xs and 0s guy but he's not good at managing or leading people. Edited November 4, 2019 by dpberr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 remember when a couple of choice posters were comparing the records of mcd and gase to try and prove a point that just wasn't there? i do...i do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Let him trade all the Jets good players away first then fire his dumb ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Back on page 1, where a proper zeppelin disaster belongs... * Someone needs to get Captain Jets’ view on the state of the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Product endorser for Dynarex ammonia capsules? I would think (hope) none of the applications would be going for coaching opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said: There is a video out there of him with the Dolphins in this exact position. The video actually zooms in and he isn't writing anything at all. He's just faking writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 I saw something on the scroll at the bottom of ESPN that Jets management wants to be patient. I didn't look up the article but LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 50 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I saw something on the scroll at the bottom of ESPN that Jets management wants to be patient. I didn't look up the article but LOL. I had heard Jets management wanted to be a patient...at Bellevue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 so the Jets have a franchise QB, a Pro Bowl RB, an otherwise strong roster and they still find a way to screw this up. Jets fans should be issued hazmat suits. We should be thankful that we got Beane and Clappy as a package deal. The Pegs deserve credit for hiring a coach and GM who are philosophically aligned. Can anyone doubt we are headed in the right direction? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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