Bronxbomber21 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 We need a run stuffing DT bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Bronxbomber21 said: We need a run stuffing DT bad The defense is good enough. One above average Wr or RB on the offense could transform the whole package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 42 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Already too many conjecture topics for a deadline 6 hrs. away. Can we publicly stone anyone who starts a separate trade thread? What about axual trades, can they be stand alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I will dream of Von Miller and Mike Evans until the deadline passes. zZzzzz ZZZz zz 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills fan since 87 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: The Bills are a one and done playoff team this year so why give up assets for a WR or RB that won't make the difference. Build the lines and fill the skill with FA and draft. I dunno, I could see them winning at Indy if they take the division. Heck, I would not mark Houston or Baltimore as lock losses either. Sure would love to have that first playoff win in 25 years Edited October 29, 2019 by Bills fan since 87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, 32ABBA said: The defense is good enough. One above average Wr or RB on the offense could transform the whole package. Yup, right now they need perfection from the defence to have a chance, the offence is struggling to score but if they were a bit improved, then the defence not being perfect is a big concern cause they aren't also carrying the offence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Can we publicly stone anyone who starts a separate trade thread? What about axual trades, can they be stand alone? I'm obviously not a mod, but if the Bills do make any real trades, I vote for a standalone thread for each trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) I'm on board with a trade for someone who we plan to be part of the future. Melvin Gordon would be someone we'd resign, and he came out and admitted holding out was a mistake. Gordon/Singletary is one explosive backfield in both the run & pass game. My issue with Gore is he simply keeps us on track. Defenses know he's not a threat out of the backfield and he's just going to battering ram himself up the A/B gaps. He serves a purpose, but i'll admit I got extremely jealous watching the Eagles rotate Howard/Sanders. I certainly don't feel we're a guaranteed loss in the Playoffs. This team is extremely young, and new with each other. We're assuming no growth/cohesion throughout the course of the year? Edited October 29, 2019 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 46 minutes ago, Frez said: I don't see the Bills making any trades today. If we do, I think DT, WR, TE are the priorities. We shall see! This is likely the truth. McBeane may realize this team has too many holes still that trading a high pick and taking on salary isn't going to help in the long run. Stay the course, bite hard, trust the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 The problem.is everyone wants to build some super dynasty team like the Pats and the belief is it can only be done if you use all your picks in the draft and are given time. What they need to do is take advantage of what they have now and build on it. Make the playoffs this year and you are viewed as a team on the rise, players gain experience and confidence and the Bills become slightly more attractive to good FAs. Making a splash today shows the team that management has confidence in them this year of doing something and that they are looking to win now. No one is saying to go and throw their entire draft out to go get a rental player, but using some picks to get an impact player or 2 now isn't going to hurt them and the future 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 27 minutes ago, BillsDiehard said: I guess I missed this post... https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/10/28/20936271/2019-nfl-trade-deadline-buffalo-bills-targets-defensive-tackle-wide-receiver-scouting-reports I missed that as well - thanks for posting! Billings is intriguing, as 1-tech DT is a position I think we could really use help at. I'm not really feeling any of the others, because either they're unrealistic (like Von Miller or Mike Evans), maybe realistic but would cost too much, or just aren't really upgrades (like Taylor Gabriel). AJ Green is the maybe exception there, but if I'm Beane, I wouldn't trade for him without getting his medical info first. With no guarantee he's more than a rental for this year, you need to be really confident that he's going to be healthy, and likely to stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I’ll give up a first in the next two drafts if another board took Gugny 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: This is likely the truth. McBeane may realize this team has too many holes still that trading a high pick and taking on salary isn't going to help in the long run. Stay the course, bite hard, trust the process. No move today is going to put them to the top as favorites against NE or SF, but an impact player may move them from 'not a real 5-2 team' to 'possible tough playoff team'. Making the playoffs (without a fluke play by another team) on their own and having confidence that they won't be one and done like the last time will go much further to develop this team then a couple more 3-5 the rounders added to the roster and waiting again til next year to see progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Can we publicly stone anyone who starts a separate trade thread? What about axual trades, can they be stand alone? No. Dark alleys only. If we DO make a trade, that qualifies for a new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I’m expecting nothing but hoping to be wrong 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) I think if we don't make a useful trade or two it will be bad emotionally for the team. Competitors bringing in impactful players will not be well received by anyone. Edited October 29, 2019 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: No move today is going to put them to the top as favorites against NE or SF, but an impact player may move them from 'not a real 5-2 team' to 'possible tough playoff team'. Making the playoffs (without a fluke play by another team) on their own and having confidence that they won't be one and done like the last time will go much further to develop this team then a couple more 3-5 the rounders added to the roster and waiting again til next year to see progress I understand your logic, just don’t agree. We’re going to need superior players at Edge & WR. Neither of which likely come from the Draft in their 1st year -especially with how McDermott treats them. IF we can land a stud player from either position today, it significantly helps us this year and the future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Yup, right now they need perfection from the defence to have a chance, the offence is struggling to score but if they were a bit improved, then the defence not being perfect is a big concern cause they aren't also carrying the offence. Wait...what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 As poor as the defense looked Sunday, there is not an elite team in the AFC. The Patriots offense is average at best. The Cheifs defense is poor. Those are the expected top of the AFC. The bridge isnt that far. The offense needs some help. Allen's growth is as far as the Bill's will go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: As poor as the defense looked Sunday, there is not an elite team in the AFC. The Patriots offense is average at best. The Cheifs defense is poor. Those are the expected top of the AFC. The bridge isnt that far. The offense needs some help. Allen's growth is as far as the Bill's will go. I agree. it feels like people think the whole team sucks suddenly. That teams are going to run the ball up and down the field against them,. and that the offense will never score more than 14 points. I like this team, I just think the offense could really use a guy at a skill position that is a notch better than what they have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I understand your logic, just don’t agree. We’re going to need superior players at Edge & WR. Neither of which likely come from the Draft in their 1st year -especially with how McDermott treats them. IF we can land a stud player from either position today, it significantly helps us this year and the future. I am hoping we go hard after Ngakoue in FA. He's going to cost, but he is likely the premier pass rusher set to be on the market in 2020. Sign him then draft Yetur Gross-Matos and DE is set. YGM reminds me of a young Michael Strahan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 Listening to GR right now. Goofy Sabres talk, but one of the guys just said he’s looking at his phone and ‘something appears to be brewing @OBD’. I don’t mean to be a gossip spreader, but we’re ALL thinking about it.. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I've already seen the defense playing great. I have yet to see the offense explode. I want offense. A better pass rush would be nice, but not essential, to me. Know what boosts sacks? Playing with a lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: Listening to GR right now. Goofy Sabres talk, but one of the guys just said he’s looking at his phone and ‘something appears to be brewing @OBD’. I don’t mean to be a gossip spreader, but we’re ALL thinking about it.. Coffee? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Frez said: I don't see the Bills making any trades today. If we do, I think DT, WR, TE are the priorities. I agree with this, my only fear is that Beane surprises us all and becomes a seller this year. I hope not. I would like to see us add a WR, but we don’t need another WR 2 or 3, only worth it in my opinion if we add a #1. i haven’t heard any Vic Beasley talk lately, but that is the one I could see happening. Edited October 29, 2019 by buffaloboyinATL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: Listening to GR right now. Goofy Sabres talk, but one of the guys just said he’s looking at his phone and ‘something appears to be brewing @OBD’. I don’t mean to be a gossip spreader, but we’re ALL thinking about it.. It’s on like a mofo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Listening to GR right now. Goofy Sabres talk, but one of the guys just said he’s looking at his phone and ‘something appears to be brewing @OBD’. I don’t mean to be a gossip spreader, but we’re ALL thinking about it.. That’s why the thread is here, gossip is welcomed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Since Harry went down, our only reliable DT has been Jordan Phillips. We need a DT badly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 F5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Both lines were manhandled by the Eagles, DT, OT, WR. Trent Williams. AJ Green. You know, I wasn't that high on Clowney when he was available ...and right about now that guy would be worth a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I don’t think we are going to get any action. Beanie seems like the type of guy that wants a good player but won’t pay for him. Unless a team is desperate to get rid of a player in the cheap, I don’t think we are getting any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I wouldn't be shocked if there was a move, but I'm not expecting it. If there is one, it'll be last minute and it'll be a name that hasn't been mentioned much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I can’t understand the desire for an RB, that doesn’t move the needle IMO. AJ Green would be nice, but he’s a rental with questionable health. Depending on his availability and cost, worth the risk IMO. A run stuffing DT would also be nice, but secondary in my opinion. I think you can scheme against the run, not ideal but it’s possible. Also maybe some PS guys around the league that can eat up space? Not sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 The silence is deafening. I’m on the Derek Wolfe train as he fills a need on the field and brings leadership as well. That and I can’t see him costing as much as bigger names like Miller that are being thrown about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, dubs said: I can’t understand the desire for an RB, that doesn’t move the needle IMO. AJ Green would be nice, but he’s a rental with questionable health. Depending on his availability and cost, worth the risk IMO. A run stuffing DT would also be nice, but secondary in my opinion. I think you can scheme against the run, not ideal but it’s possible. Also maybe some PS guys around the league that can eat up space? Not sure. I'd be very surprised if the Bills traded for a player on an expiring contract they didnt plan to extend. It doesnt fit with the get better now and tomorrow standard Beane has. If they trade for Green, an extension will be put in place. They wont give up a pick for a player they only intend to keep for 9 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: The silence is deafening. I’m on the Derek Wolfe train as he fills a need on the field and brings leadership as well. That and I can’t see him costing as much as bigger names like Miller that are being thrown about. Under the radar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, dubs said: I can’t understand the desire for an RB, that doesn’t move the needle IMO. AJ Green would be nice, but he’s a rental with questionable health. Depending on his availability and cost, worth the risk IMO. A run stuffing DT would also be nice, but secondary in my opinion. I think you can scheme against the run, not ideal but it’s possible. Also maybe some PS guys around the league that can eat up space? Not sure. I think the issue is price. We could use a DT, WR, RB and DE. Those are all positions we will likely address in FA or the Draft anyway. A game changer at WR might be going for an asking rate of a 2nd for an oft-injured AJ Green or multiple 1sts for anyone “low-key” on the trading block (Mike Evans type). Same for Von Miller, if available. We could potentially grab Gordon and Wolfe/Billings for less than it takes to get AJ Green. Edited October 29, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, dje85 said: Why te/ We have like 8 of them. I think it is DT, WR OR DT. Dark horse is running back as for some reason Daboll doesn't seem to trust Singletary. Maybe he wants a vet running back this year and slowly work singletary in for next year. We have 8 of them but none are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills fan since 87 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I'm refreshing this thread every few minutes. My work day is shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I'd be very surprised if the Bills traded for a player on an expiring contract they didnt plan to extend. It doesnt fit with the get better now and tomorrow standard Beane has. If they trade for Green, an extension will be put in place. They wont give up a pick for a player they only intend to keep for 9 games. I could see it if it was a 5th or later pick for a former top player on a bloated contract. Im sure there’s a point where Beane would gamble a bit if the possible return outweighs the risk. It’s highly unlikely, but there is sometimes a voodoo trade that works out (randy moss). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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