Put Bills trade talks today here.

[zevo]

Just now, FUTURIST said:

 

If super cute = 100% correct, then yes, it is super cute.

I think he called you a dbag in a way that won’t flag him for moderator discipline....just my interpretation...could be wrong.

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, FUTURIST said:

The Bills are clearly not trying to win a Super Bowl this year.  They proved they are a paper tiger this past Sunday.  Watch the game again.  The Bills will NEVER beat a top tier team with this offense and defense. They probably could get AJ Green or Bell and still get knocked out in the 1st round.  Perhaps it is best to just stay put and wait for next year and keep building through the draft.

 

You can't beat good teams with  mediocre offensive and defensive lines.

Some of these takes are just crazy.  We most likely would’ve beaten the Patriots with these lines if not for a blocked punt for a TD and our QB getting speared in the helmet.

 

yes, you can beat good teams with mediocre offensive and defensive lines.  
 

yes, upgrading our OL and DL is still this teams biggest priority imo.  
 

I’ve always hated the Star signing but realized it was more of a culture/we had money to burn and he filled a need signing.  Losing Harry was huge.  Peko and Star both need to be replaced.  Ed and Phillips are fine.

[MiltonWaddams]

7 minutes ago, skibum said:

It is stupid. If you're not tanking, then you should do what you can to build the best team possible. Especially if there's an opportunity to trade for a good player who can still be on the roster next year and beyond. 

I agree that if a trade were to come available that is a positive, long-term deal, that should be explored. That being said, if this is a trade for a guy like Green who is a one-year rental, then it doesn’t really make sense. This team is not built to be short term. Players like Oliver, Edmunds and Allen were drafted to be long term pieces. With the depth at wide receiver and defensive tackle in the 2020 draft being as good as it is, trading a high draft pick for a short term piece is ridiculous.

Edited October 29, 2019 by MiltonWaddams

[CaptnCoke11]

When 4pm rolls around and nothing the tears will be flowing 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Only reason to trade for bell or Gordon is to get an actual player other defenses have to be worried about at all times, a guy teams will game plan to contain or stop. And they are the only ones that could be had at this deadline

 

Maybe aj green but he has been injured 

 

 

[Gugny]

4 minutes ago, FUTURIST said:

 

No kidding, but they aren't a team like the Patriots, Packers, 49ers, or Saints who can make a single move to make themselves an Super Bowl winner.  The Bills need a HECK of a lot more than 1 player to even compete with these teams.

 

Did you watch the Bills/Pats game earlier this year?  Seems to me the Bills not only competed, but made Brady look like Josh Rosen all day long.

 

Green Bay lost to Philly.  Is Green Bay out of it, too?

 

Cowboys lost to the Jets.  Dallas must not be trying to win the Super Bowl, either.

 

I see a Bills team that, halfway through the season, has the 2nd best record in the AFC.  Clearly, they're not trying to do anything this year.

[BITE ME]

7 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

At around the halfway point if this 2019 season, it’s pretty safe to say a reasonable snapshot of the team has emerged. The defense is at least top half of the league in today’s NFL. It could use an additional piece or two to bring it up to a higher level. The offense as currently constructed is sub par. The OL still has issues , particularly at OT and WR, TE. The RBs are passable, but the team has few matchup winners in the lineup. The struggles of the QB are well documented, but a personnel change there isn’t on the table at the moment. That isn’t an overreaction to one game, but rather a look at what the data tells us so far. A trade could help, and doesn’t mean mortgaging the future. 

 

Smartest post here.

[Bill from NYC]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Some of these takes are just crazy.  We most likely would’ve beaten the Patriots with these lines if not for a blocked punt for a TD and our QB getting speared in the helmet.

 

yes, you can beat good teams with mediocre offensive and defensive lines.  
 

yes, upgrading our OL and DL is still this teams biggest priority imo.  
 

I’ve always hated the Star signing but realized it was more of a culture/we had money to burn and he filled a need signing.  Losing Harry was huge.  Peko and Star both need to be replaced.  Ed and Phillips are fine.

We have a young quarterback who has an absolute cannon. We drafted him at #7. He has a group of receivers that are mediocre at best. 

I'm sorry, I can't wrap myself around how improving the receiving corps is not our top need. For years and years I have been on this board screaming and begging for blockers. Not any longer whereas talented receivers is a dire, make or break need for this team.

Jmo.

[BITE ME]

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Did you watch the Bills/Pats game earlier this year?  Seems to me the Bills not only competed, but made Brady look like Josh Rosen all day long.

 

Green Bay lost to Philly.  Is Green Bay out of it, too?

 

Cowboys lost to the Jets.  Dallas must not be trying to win the Super Bowl, either.

 

I see a Bills team that, halfway through the season, has the 2nd best record in the AFC.  Clearly, they're not trying to do anything this year.

 

They have played two good teams and could not score against either of them. And that was at HOME.  The Bills offense is NOT GOOD.

7 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

When 4pm rolls around and nothing the tears will be flowing 

 

What could they possibly do?  There is no player out there worth trading for.  I was all for AJ Green, but now that I look around the league it is obvious AJ Green is not going to deliver a Super Bowl to Buffalo.  It is not happening. Their offensive and defensive lines are just not good.

Edited October 29, 2019 by FUTURIST

[Gugny]

Just now, FUTURIST said:

 

They have played two good teams and could not score against either of them. And that was at HOME.  The Bills offense is NOT GOOD.

 

The Bills' Offensive Coordinator was NOT GOOD in the last two games.

 

The defense has sucked in the last two games.

 

Again ... they're a 5-2 team.  What the ***** more do you want?  It's better than most teams in the NFL, yet somehow, still "subpar."

 

NOBODY is scoring against the Patriots.  The Philly game was a bad game.  Nearly every team has them.  Get a goddamn grip.

[whatdrought]

Just now, Gugny said:

 

The Bills' Offensive Coordinator was NOT GOOD in the last two games.

 

The defense has sucked in the last two games.

 

Again ... they're a 5-2 team.  What the ***** more do you want?  It's better than most teams in the NFL, yet somehow, still "subpar."

 

NOBODY is scoring against the Patriots.  The Philly game was a bad game.  Nearly every team has them.  Get a goddamn grip.

 

Where's Tom when we need him... 

[Chandler#81]

Not a trade, but twitter tales say Bengals benching Dalton after their Bye.

[Pete]

Next draft is loaded with playmaking WRs.  Keep our high picks, get our play maker WR with our #1.

[thebandit27]

3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

We have a young quarterback who has an absolute cannon. We drafted him at #7. He has a group of receivers that are mediocre at best. 

I'm sorry, I can't wrap myself around how improving the receiving corps is not our top need. For years and years I have been on this board screaming and begging for blockers. Not any longer whereas talented receivers is a dire, make or break need for this team.

Jmo.

 

Yep

 

The OL is actually doing just fine.

 

The offense is severely limited by a lack of pass catching talent.

 

Hope you're doing well.

[apuszczalowski]

3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

We have a young quarterback who has an absolute cannon. We drafted him at #7. He has a group of receivers that are mediocre at best. 

I'm sorry, I can't wrap myself around how improving the receiving corps is not our top need. For years and years I have been on this board screaming and begging for blockers. Not any longer whereas talented receivers is a dire, make or break need for this team.

Jmo.

This  may be the first sign of the apocalypse, Bill from NYC saying that the Bills need to upgrade a skills position over either of the lines????????

 

Who is this imposter? I'm about ready to head down to my bunker now and prep for the end of days...........

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said:

We have a young quarterback who has an absolute cannon. We drafted him at #7. He has a group of receivers that are mediocre at best. 

I'm sorry, I can't wrap myself around how improving the receiving corps is not our top need. For years and years I have been on this board screaming and begging for blockers. Not any longer whereas talented receivers is a dire, make or break need for this team.

Jmo.

After watching the eagles run the ball down our throats like that, you don’t think DT is our biggest need?  
 

Adding another WR is important, but not the biggest need imo.  
 

John Brown is an absolute stud.  Beasley is an above average slot WR.  We could upgrade Duke.  Foster and mckenzie as 4ths aren’t terrible, both have proven to be able to make big plays.  

[BITE ME]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

The Bills' Offensive Coordinator was NOT GOOD in the last two games.

 

The defense has sucked in the last two games.

 

Again ... they're a 5-2 team.  What the ***** more do you want?  It's better than most teams in the NFL, yet somehow, still "subpar."

 

NOBODY is scoring against the Patriots.  The Philly game was a bad game.  Nearly every team has them.  Get a goddamn grip.

 

Get a grip? All I am saying is they are a Wild Card team that likely will not get out of the first round.  If they somehow did, they will NEVER beat the elite teams in the NFL, and there is no single player available in a trade that can change that.  Just stand pat and upgrade in the off season. This is not a championship team, but it is a MAJOR improvement over last year.

Edited October 29, 2019 by FUTURIST

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

The Bills' Offensive Coordinator was NOT GOOD in the last two games.

 

The defense has sucked in the last two games.

 

Again ... they're a 5-2 team.  What the ***** more do you want?  It's better than most teams in the NFL, yet somehow, still "subpar."

 

NOBODY is scoring against the Patriots.  The Philly game was a bad game.  Nearly every team has them.  Get a goddamn grip.

 

Thanks for taking up the slack while I'm on vacation.

[thebandit27]

2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Not a trade, but twitter tales say Bengals benching Dalton after their Bye.

 

Yeah, because the dude that's on pace to throw for 4500 yards, who happened to top 400 in Seattle, is the problem.

 

Can't possibly be the totally-in-over-his-head HC.

Edited October 29, 2019 by thebandit27

[Chandler#81]

Just now, FUTURIST said:

 

Get a grip. All I am saying is they are a Wild Card team that likely will not get out of the first round.  If they somehow did, they will NEVER beat the elite teams in the NFL, and there is no single player available in a trade that can change that.  Just stand pat and upgrade in the off season. This is not a championship team, but it is a MAJOR improvement over last year.

 

Physician heal thyself.

[Not at the table Karlos]

5 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

We have a young quarterback who has an absolute cannon. We drafted him at #7. He has a group of receivers that are mediocre at best. 

I'm sorry, I can't wrap myself around how improving the receiving corps is not our top need. For years and years I have been on this board screaming and begging for blockers. Not any longer whereas talented receivers is a dire, make or break need for this team.

Jmo.

Allen struggles to find open receivers. The ones we have get open. Why get more when he doesn’t use the ones we have? 

 

Allen needs to read what’s in front of him a lot better than he has. 

[Putin]

3 hours ago, Perk71 said:

I'm calling a big trade for Bills today.  Just a hunch...

 

Go Bills!

Is one BIG trade really going to change anything? 

Im so disappointed in our run defense I don’t even know how to put it nicely, 

IMO we should just keep our draft picks and use the free agency to build the team 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

I honestly don't get the don't make a move crowd, hoard the choices, we have cap to deal with it later and besides we aren't SB contendors. Excuse me, but why are waiting to take on talent that helps us this year, next, the year after etc. Talent is what is needed to improve and solve issues, whether it comes now, next week, after the season, FA/Draft. Fix it don't wait.

[whatdrought]

Why the hell can't we have one nice thread without the schmucks ruining it?

[apuszczalowski]

Just now, NewEra said:

After watching the eagles run the ball down our throats like that, you don’t think DT is our biggest need?  
 

Adding another WR is important, but not the biggest need imo.  
 

John Brown is an absolute stud.  Beasley is an above average slot WR.  We could upgrade Duke.  Foster and mckenzie as 4ths aren’t terrible, both have proven to be able to make big plays.  

If the Bills had Upgrades to their offensive skills positions that would be a threat to score more which would help take the pressure off the defence having to be perfect all game and would make the defence better. They wouldn't have to worry that a small mistake could cost them big because they won't be able to get the points back. The idea of having a dominating defence to carry a team isn't happening anymore, offences are going to score on even the best defences and you need to be able to keep up with your opponent. NEs defence isn't an all time best like some are trying to say they are, they look much better cause they have an offence that scores points and they aren't on the field all game cause the offence can't stay on it 

[Not at the table Karlos]

@thebandit27 if you’re so confused go watch the all-22. See all the open receivers Allen misses. It’s all on film for everyone to see. I don’t understand why people refuse to believe it when it’s right in front of their face.  Go to the games, sit in the upper deck so you can see everything unfold. It happens every week. Smh

Edited October 29, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos

[BITE ME]

Agree with Kyle Brandt on One Bills Live.  If you want to WIN  a playoff game, they have to get a WR or RB an upgrade the offense.  They have to lock the player up though. None of this rental nonsense. I don't think the Bills should give away anything "real" away like a first rounder, and I don't think you can get a significant player for anything like a third rounder.

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, FUTURIST said:

 

Get a grip? All I am saying is they are a Wild Card team that likely will not get out of the first round.  If they somehow did, they will NEVER beat the elite teams in the NFL, and there is no single player available in a trade that can change that.  Just stand pat and upgrade in the off season. This is not a championship team, but it is a MAJOR improvement over last year.

 

They almost got out of the first round in 2017 with arguably the worst starting QB to ever play in the playoffs (neck and neck with Lamont Jackson).

 

With proper game planning, coaching and play calling, they've shown that a) their offense can move the chains against a top defense (Pats game) and b) their defense can be a solid Top 3 NFL D (Pats game and others prior to the last two).

 

Of course they need upgrades.

 

Would it take the Bills' best effort and a couple slip-ups on a superior opponent's end in order to go deep into the playoffs?  Yes.

 

But let's not pretend these teams are leaps and bounds better than Buffalo.  They are not.  None of them.

 

So yes ... get a grip.

 

[Coach Tuesday]

2 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

@thebandit27 if you’re so confused go watch the all-22. See all the open receivers Allen misses. It’s all on film for everyone to see. I don’t understand why people refuse to believe it when it’s right in front of their face. Smh

 

Why don't you start a new thread with actual examples from the all-22, instead of posting about it in the trade news thread.

[BITE ME]

3 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Why the hell can't we have one nice thread without the schmucks ruining it?

 

What are you complaining about?  People are just disagreeing on how good the Bills are.  Some think they can make a move an contend for a Super Bowl, others don't. Two legitimate points of view.

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

2 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

If the Bills had Upgrades to their offensive skills positions that would be a threat to score more which would help take the pressure off the defence having to be perfect all game and would make the defence better. They wouldn't have to worry that a small mistake could cost them big because they won't be able to get the points back. The idea of having a dominating defence to carry a team isn't happening anymore, offences are going to score on even the best defences and you need to be able to keep up with your opponent. NEs defence isn't an all time best like some are trying to say they are, they look much better cause they have an offence that scores points and they aren't on the field all game cause the offence can't stay on it 

New England d is killing it this year. They have 25 takeaways through 8 games and have returned 4 for touchdowns. This is the first year in a long time their offense isn't that good. We match up with them well as we our physical up front and have the talent to take their playmakers out for the most part.  Jamie Collins and Gilmore are playing like beasts

[Gugny]

4 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

@thebandit27 if you’re so confused go watch the all-22. See all the open receivers Allen misses. It’s all on film for everyone to see. I don’t understand why people refuse to believe it when it’s right in front of their face. Smh

 

Unfortunately, the games aren't played in slow motion with pause buttons.

[ngbills]

Biggest chatter out there with a few hours to go:

 

RB: Gordon or Bell

WR: Evans, Green, Gabriel

TE: Eifert, Howard

DT; Billings

 

[BITE ME]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

But let's not pretend these teams are leaps and bounds better than Buffalo.  They are not.  None of them.

 

So yes ... get a grip.

 

 

Yes they are.  It is all about the offensive and defensive lines. The Bills just got BLOWN OUT at HOME by a mediocre NFC team.  Watch the game.  The Bills lines were destroyed.

[Not at the table Karlos]

2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Why don't you start a new thread with actual examples from the all-22, instead of posting about it in the trade news thread.

1. I was replying to a post in this thread.

2. I’ve tried. Pics don’t upload.

3. A lot of it watching live.

[No_Matter_What]

We are less than 3 hours from the deadline. Is it standard that there is literally not a single actual trade reported by now?

[BITE ME]

Just now, ngbills said:

Biggest chatter out there with a few hours to go:

 

RB: Gordon or Bell

WR: Evans, Green, Gabriel

TE: Eifert, Howard

DT; Billings

 

 

OJ Howard goes to the Patriots and I will throw up.

[FLFan]

6 minutes ago, Putin said:

Is one BIG trade really going to change anything? 

Im so disappointed in our run defense I don’t even know how to put it nicely, 

IMO we should just keep our draft picks and use the free agency to build the team 

The run defense had one bad game.  Ranked 10th in the league prior to that.  That said, one big trade is unlikely to make a huge difference in the w/l for the year, unless a stud WR is truly available.  That could help them win a game or two IMO. 

[BITE ME]

Just now, No_Matter_What said:

We are less than 3 hours from the deadline. Is it standard that there is literally not a single actual trade reported by now?

 

No, because a bunch of big trades already happened this year.  

[Not at the table Karlos]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

Unfortunately, the games aren't played in slow motion with pause buttons.

They don’t have them in the upper deck where you can watch everything develop either. But nice try