RochesterLifer Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 The lead of today's TBN article sums him up well. "Honestly, I don’t think I’ll be validated until the end of my career,” White said. “You can’t measure the success of a defensive back three years into his career. You’ve got to wait on down the line. Because it’s a year-to-year thing with defensive backs, so you’ve got to come out with your A game each and every year.” This guy is everything; enthusiastic, confident yet humble, extremely talented with a serious self-critical focus. I don't usually enjoy the commitment of big contracts, but I am looking forward to Tre getting paid and being a Bills for a very long time. 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 You're speaking to a pretty unanimous choir here. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) Tre has been an elite shut-down corner since he entered the league. If there was one weakness the past two years, it was that he didnt get his hands on the ball enough. This season, he will likely set a personal record for INTs. I think you can safely add "Ball Hawk" to "Shut-Down Corner" now. Edited October 27, 2019 by IgotBILLStopay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Guy should be a lifetime Bill, he’s amazing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Our best player imo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I think a lot of McBean picks are going to keepers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 We need to sign him and Malano 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said: We need to sign him and Malano He's signed through 2020-21. Malano will never sign here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 If there was an expansion draft tomorrow and the new team could pick one player from all 32 NFL rosters with no protections that new team would pick Tre White. He is right there in elite company. He is the only player on this team of whom that is true as we sit here today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Tre is ELITE. His game has no holes and he is a high character guy. He’s one of the best players in football. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Tre will likely have to be Beanes first big contract signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 39 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: You're speaking to a pretty unanimous choir here. And here I thought I was being controversial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He's signed through 2020-21. Malano will never sign here. Care to share your insight? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He's signed through 2020-21. Malano will never sign here. bills need to sign Malano and McKittrick. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Care to share your insight? 6 minutes ago, dubs said: bills need to sign Malano and McKittrick. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Here are White's interception stats relative to draft peers. Notice his steady improvement year to year - while his peers are the same or have become worse College Games INTs Games per INTs NFL first two seasons INTs Games per INTs NFL this season INTs Games per INTs White 48 6 8.00 32 6 5.33 6 3 2.00 Humphrey 29 5 5.80 30 4 7.50 7 2 3.50 Lattimore 16 4 4.00 29 7 4.14 7 1 7.00 Jones 40 8 5.00 10 0 - 5 1 5.00 Wilson 39 6 6.50 20 2 10.00 6 0 - Conley 35 6 5.83 17 3 5.67 6 1 6.00 Tabor 37 8 4.63 22 0 - 0 0 - It was a travesty that he did not make the Pro bowl last year. This year even his worst critic cant keep him away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Here are White's interception stats relative to draft peers. Notice his steady improvement year to year - while his peers are the same or have become worse College Games INTs Games per INTs NFL first two seasons INTs Games per INTs NFL this season INTs Games per INTs White 48 6 8.00 32 6 5.33 6 3 2.00 Humphrey 29 5 5.80 30 4 7.50 7 2 3.50 Lattimore 16 4 4.00 29 7 4.14 7 1 7.00 Jones 40 8 5.00 10 0 - 5 1 5.00 Wilson 39 6 6.50 20 2 10.00 6 0 - Conley 35 6 5.83 17 3 5.67 6 1 6.00 Tabor 37 8 4.63 22 0 - 0 0 - It was a travesty that he did not make the Pro bowl last year. This year even his worst critic cant keep him away. And those top 3 are all in the top 10 in the NFL at the position. It was an outstanding class of DBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Not only that, he seems to be a terrific guy. We’ve had some awesome players over the years and you know they are just focused on getting the next big contract with another team. I don’t see that with White. He’s a high character guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: Not only that, he seems to be a terrific guy. We’ve had some awesome players over the years and you know they are just focused on getting the next big contract with another team. I don’t see that with White. He’s a high character guy. I’m not sure that they focus on a big contract “elsewhere.” They focus on a big contract “anywhere.” Guys aren’t just trying to get out of Buffalo. They are trying to get paid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 47 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Tre is ELITE. His game has no holes and he is a high character guy. He’s one of the best players in football. Buffalo's former CB Stephon Gilmore, now with the Patriots, is arguably the best DB in the game. In my opinion TW isn't as good as Gilmore but he is in the same elite echelon. Where I would give Tre the advantage is his ability to tackle. Gilmore is less willing to mix it up. As good as Gilmore is Tre White is more suited to a McDermott defense because he is more willing to come up and make a tackle. Gilmore was inclined to shy away from that form of physicality. There are some nice people (NYC Bill) who don't value the DB position as much as they should. When you have an elite CB you have a prized possession. They also can be costly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, JohnC said: Buffalo's former CB Stephon Gilmore, now with the Patriots, is arguably the best DB in the game. In my opinion TW isn't as good as Gilmore but he is in the same elite echelon. Where I would give Tre the advantage is his ability to tackle. Gilmore is less willing to mix it up. As good as Gilmore is Tre White is more suited to a McDermott defense because he is more willing to come up and make a tackle. Gilmore was inclined to shy away from that form of physicality. There are some nice people (NYC Bill) who don't value the DB position as much as they should. When you have an elite CB you have a prized possession. They also can be costly. I agree with all of this. Tre made the Gilmore loss okay. If Gilmore is 1, Tre is somewhere in the top 5. He’s a great, great football player (and character). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: Tre will likely have to be Beanes first big contract signing. I think he has to take care of Poyer, Phillips and Milano before getting to Tre. Tre will be the mega contract while the others will have the huge contract 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Green Lightning said: You're speaking to a pretty unanimous choir here. This franchise has a history of letting top Cornerbacks walk in Free Agency. Time to break that trend. Stephon Gilmore is the most recent. Longtime fans also remember Nate Clements, Antoine Winfield, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I agree with all of this. Tre made the Gilmore loss okay. If Gilmore is 1, Tre is somewhere in the top 5. He’s a great, great football player (and character). If Tre is a top 5 and Gilmore is # 1 which other 3 DB’s you’d rather have instead Tre ? I think Lattimore maybe ahead of Tre but that’s about IT ( IMO ) Edited October 27, 2019 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Came here thinking this was a goal keeper thread ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnC said: Buffalo's former CB Stephon Gilmore, now with the Patriots, is arguably the best DB in the game. In my opinion TW isn't as good as Gilmore but he is in the same elite echelon. Where I would give Tre the advantage is his ability to tackle. Gilmore is less willing to mix it up. As good as Gilmore is Tre White is more suited to a McDermott defense because he is more willing to come up and make a tackle. Gilmore was inclined to shy away from that form of physicality. There are some nice people (NYC Bill) who don't value the DB position as much as they should. When you have an elite CB you have a prized possession. They also can be costly. I honestly don't understand the love Gilmore gets. The guy held left and right when he played for us. Watching him play for the Pats I swear he still does it and just doesn't get called often. Idk, I just don't see him as the clear best CB but maybe I'm just delusional. I hands down take Tre with zero hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Gambit said: I honestly don't understand the love Gilmore gets. The guy held left and right when he played for us. Watching him play for the Pats I swear he still does it and just doesn't get called often. Idk, I just don't see him as the clear best CB but maybe I'm just delusional. I hands down take Tre with zero hesitation. Every CB grabs including Tre. The rules hardly allow for any physicality but there is usually bumping and grabbing over 5 yards downfield Idk who couldn't see how could Gilmore was while playing on an island. He was routinely shutting down WRs for years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 He should be able to totally shut down Alston Jefferies today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, Gambit said: I honestly don't understand the love Gilmore gets. The guy held left and right when he played for us. Watching him play for the Pats I swear he still does it and just doesn't get called often. Idk, I just don't see him as the clear best CB but maybe I'm just delusional. I hands down take Tre with zero hesitation. Belichick is one of the best coaches in the history of the game with a specialty on defense. There was a reason why he signed him for a very large contract. What you don't see is obvious to most people who have a reasonable degree of objectivity. Not only did Belichick recognize his talent but so did Buffalo because they used a top of the draft pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Tre getting signed to a long term deal is the simplest decision this front office can make.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Pay the man!!!! Well deserved! Pay Milano also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Putin said: If Tre is a top 5 and Gilmore is # 1 which other 3 DB’s you’d rather have instead Tre ? I think Lattimore maybe ahead of Tre but that’s about IT ( IMO ) There are a few that are good. Pat Pete is still good. Ramsey is an idiot but elite. Lattimore and Humphrey are really good players. There are a bunch in the mix (including Tre). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: He should be able to totally shut down Alston Jefferies today. Mighta Jinxed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On at least two separate occasions today after he was beat, refused to hit the ball carrier. Tre is good. Darby and Gilmore were and are better. History suggests we let him walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 49 minutes ago, Chill said: On at least two separate occasions today after he was beat, refused to hit the ball carrier. Tre is good. Darby and Gilmore were and are better. History suggests we let him walk. Darby better than White lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: There are a few that are good. Pat Pete is still good. Ramsey is an idiot but elite. Lattimore and Humphrey are really good players. There are a bunch in the mix (including Tre). Hayward. Slay. I listed my top 10 on here last weekend. I have Tre right around 5 or 6. I think if you are just judging on 2019 though then it is him, Lattimore and Gilmore as a top 3 (probably in thw reverse order to that list). 12 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Darby better than White lmao Yea that is comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Chill said: On at least two separate occasions today after he was beat, refused to hit the ball carrier. Tre is good. Darby and Gilmore were and are better. History suggests we let him walk. Gilmore yes, Darby no. Do you know how many picks White would have if he played on a d that got pressure on a QB regularly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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