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The lead of today's TBN article sums him up well. "Honestly, I don’t think I’ll be validated until the end of my career,” White said. “You can’t measure the success of a defensive back three years into his career. You’ve got to wait on down the line. Because it’s a year-to-year thing with defensive backs, so you’ve got to come out with your A game each and every year.”

 

This guy is everything; enthusiastic, confident yet humble, extremely talented with a serious self-critical focus. I don't usually enjoy the commitment of big contracts, but I am looking forward to Tre getting paid and being a Bills for a very long time.

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Tre has  been an elite shut-down corner since he entered the league. If there was one weakness  the past two years, it was that he didnt get his hands on the ball enough. This season, he will likely set a personal record for INTs. I think you can safely add "Ball Hawk" to "Shut-Down Corner" now. 

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If there was an expansion draft tomorrow and the new team could pick one player from all 32 NFL rosters with no protections that new team would pick Tre White. He is right there in elite company. He is the only player on this team of whom that is true as we sit here today. 

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Here are White's interception stats relative to draft peers. Notice his steady improvement year to year - while his peers are the same or have become worse

 

  College Games INTs Games per INTs NFL first two seasons INTs Games per INTs NFL this season INTs Games per INTs
White 48 6 8.00 32 6 5.33 6 3 2.00
Humphrey 29 5 5.80 30 4 7.50 7 2 3.50
Lattimore 16 4 4.00 29 7 4.14 7 1 7.00
Jones 40 8 5.00 10 0 - 5 1 5.00
Wilson 39 6 6.50 20 2 10.00 6 0 -
Conley 35 6 5.83 17 3 5.67 6 1 6.00
Tabor 37 8 4.63 22 0 - 0 0 -

It was a travesty that he did not make the Pro bowl last year. This year even his worst critic cant keep him away.

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17 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

Here are White's interception stats relative to draft peers. Notice his steady improvement year to year - while his peers are the same or have become worse

 

  College Games INTs Games per INTs NFL first two seasons INTs Games per INTs NFL this season INTs Games per INTs
White 48 6 8.00 32 6 5.33 6 3 2.00
Humphrey 29 5 5.80 30 4 7.50 7 2 3.50
Lattimore 16 4 4.00 29 7 4.14 7 1 7.00
Jones 40 8 5.00 10 0 - 5 1 5.00
Wilson 39 6 6.50 20 2 10.00 6 0 -
Conley 35 6 5.83 17 3 5.67 6 1 6.00
Tabor 37 8 4.63 22 0 - 0 0 -

It was a travesty that he did not make the Pro bowl last year. This year even his worst critic cant keep him away.

 

And those top 3 are all in the top 10 in the NFL at the position. It was an outstanding class of DBs. 

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3 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:

Not only that, he seems to be a terrific guy. We’ve had some awesome players over the years and you know they are just focused on getting the next big contract with another team. I don’t see that with White. He’s a high character guy. 

I’m not sure that they focus on a big contract “elsewhere.” They focus on a big contract “anywhere.” Guys aren’t just trying to get out of Buffalo. They are trying to get paid. 

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47 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Tre is ELITE. His game has no holes and he is a high character guy. He’s one of the best players in football.

Buffalo's former CB Stephon Gilmore, now with the Patriots, is arguably the best DB in the game. In my opinion TW isn't as good as Gilmore but he is in the same elite echelon. Where I would give Tre the advantage is his ability to tackle. Gilmore is less willing to mix it up. As good as Gilmore is Tre White is more suited to a McDermott defense because he is more willing to come up and make a tackle. Gilmore was inclined to shy away from that form of physicality. 

 

There are some nice people (NYC Bill) who don't value the DB position as much as they should. When you have an elite CB you have a prized possession. They also can be costly. 

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5 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Buffalo's former CB Stephon Gilmore, now with the Patriots, is arguably the best DB in the game. In my opinion TW isn't as good as Gilmore but he is in the same elite echelon. Where I would give Tre the advantage is his ability to tackle. Gilmore is less willing to mix it up. As good as Gilmore is Tre White is more suited to a McDermott defense because he is more willing to come up and make a tackle. Gilmore was inclined to shy away from that form of physicality. 

 

There are some nice people (NYC Bill) who don't value the DB position as much as they should. When you have an elite CB you have a prized possession. They also can be costly. 

I agree with all of this. Tre made the Gilmore loss okay. If Gilmore is 1, Tre is somewhere in the top 5. He’s a great, great football player (and character).

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1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

Tre will likely have to be Beanes first big contract signing.

I think he has to take care of Poyer, Phillips and Milano before getting to Tre.   Tre will be the mega contract while the others will have the huge contract

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2 hours ago, Green Lightning said:

You're speaking to a pretty unanimous choir here.

 

This franchise has a history of letting top Cornerbacks walk in Free Agency.

Time to break that trend.

 

Stephon Gilmore is the most recent.  Longtime fans also  remember Nate Clements, Antoine Winfield, etc.

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1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I agree with all of this. Tre made the Gilmore loss okay. If Gilmore is 1, Tre is somewhere in the top 5. He’s a great, great football player (and character).

If Tre is a top 5 and Gilmore is # 1 which other 3 DB’s you’d rather have instead Tre ? 

I think Lattimore maybe ahead of Tre but that’s about IT ( IMO )

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1 hour ago, JohnC said:

Buffalo's former CB Stephon Gilmore, now with the Patriots, is arguably the best DB in the game. In my opinion TW isn't as good as Gilmore but he is in the same elite echelon. Where I would give Tre the advantage is his ability to tackle. Gilmore is less willing to mix it up. As good as Gilmore is Tre White is more suited to a McDermott defense because he is more willing to come up and make a tackle. Gilmore was inclined to shy away from that form of physicality. 

 

There are some nice people (NYC Bill) who don't value the DB position as much as they should. When you have an elite CB you have a prized possession. They also can be costly. 

I honestly don't understand the love Gilmore gets. The guy held left and right when he played for us. Watching him play for the Pats I swear he still does it and just doesn't get called often. Idk, I just don't see him as the clear best CB but maybe I'm just delusional. I hands down take Tre with zero hesitation.

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8 minutes ago, Gambit said:

I honestly don't understand the love Gilmore gets. The guy held left and right when he played for us. Watching him play for the Pats I swear he still does it and just doesn't get called often. Idk, I just don't see him as the clear best CB but maybe I'm just delusional. I hands down take Tre with zero hesitation.

Every CB grabs including Tre. The rules hardly allow for any physicality but there is usually bumping and grabbing over 5 yards downfield

 

Idk who couldn't see how could Gilmore was while playing on an island. He was routinely shutting down WRs for years

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14 minutes ago, Gambit said:

I honestly don't understand the love Gilmore gets. The guy held left and right when he played for us. Watching him play for the Pats I swear he still does it and just doesn't get called often. Idk, I just don't see him as the clear best CB but maybe I'm just delusional. I hands down take Tre with zero hesitation.

Belichick is one of the best coaches in the history of the game with a specialty on defense. There was a reason why he signed him for a very large contract. What you don't see is obvious to most people who have a reasonable degree of objectivity. Not only did Belichick recognize his talent but so did Buffalo because they used a top of the draft pick for him. 

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1 hour ago, Putin said:

If Tre is a top 5 and Gilmore is # 1 which other 3 DB’s you’d rather have instead Tre ? 

I think Lattimore maybe ahead of Tre but that’s about IT ( IMO )

There are a few that are good. Pat Pete is still good. Ramsey is an idiot but elite. Lattimore and Humphrey are really good players. There are a bunch in the mix (including Tre).

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4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

There are a few that are good. Pat Pete is still good. Ramsey is an idiot but elite. Lattimore and Humphrey are really good players. There are a bunch in the mix (including Tre).

 

Hayward. Slay. I listed my top 10 on here last weekend. I have Tre right around 5 or 6. I think if you are just judging on 2019 though then it is him, Lattimore and Gilmore as a top 3 (probably in thw reverse order to that list). 

12 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Darby better than White lmao

 

Yea that is comical. 

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1 hour ago, Chill said:

On at least two separate occasions today after he was beat, refused to hit the ball carrier. 
 

Tre is good. Darby and Gilmore were and are better. 
 

History suggests we let him walk. 

Gilmore yes, Darby no. Do you know how many picks White would have if he played on a d  that got pressure on a QB regularly?

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