Freddie's Dead Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: They weren't cheating but they were definitely playing to the letter of the rule, much like they did when they had that weird formation against the Ravens a few years back. It's what the Patriots have done the last few years to exploit the rules as much as they can do allow things help them. While I don't like it from a sportsmanship standpoint but he/they has the right to keep doing it as per the rules are right now. Cheatin' *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Gase had a fresh case of salts, but they were locked up in his office? Dude is nuttier than a squirrel turd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 McDermott seems to have a good handle on the rules. I've noticed he coaches the guys to push the offensive player backwards before going out of bounds late in games. It keeps the clock running Bills lost on this rule in Seattle a few years ago when SW was pushed out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Soooo, Billy was smirking at the time and admitted it's a loophole that should probably be closed. I can only hope Sean McDermott is the one smirking in December when we do the same thing to them...in NE...with time running out....and the Bills holding on to a lead. Wow, first it was a blow out and doing it was the merciful thing to do. (Darnold was do throw a pick 6 at any moment lol) That said come December who knows what these teams look like.. injuries happen, trade deadline.. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: It’s actually not a wide open loophole. Officials have discretion to stop the clock if it’s obvious a team is killing time like that. If it continued or happens again I’m sure they will simply not allow the clock to run. They do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 hours ago, voodoo poonani said: Belicheat does it again! This time with a loophole, takes 1 min 22 sec off of the clock. Nobody goes through the rulebook quite like him. I'm surprised he wasted it against the jests. Link jets accept the penalty and this can’t happen. Because then it is on the snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Sundancer said: Gase probably would have kept declining because he's awful. yeah, more of an indictment of Gase than the genius of Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: They do? Depends on the time left on the clock. Outside of 1 minute all they could do is official times it and reset play clock to 25 instead of 40. Within one minute they get some more options. Within one minute to play the NFL rule book states that a foul by either team that prevents the snap can be penalized by 5 yards for delay of game and the offended team would get the option to start the clock on the snap, rather than the ready. Edited October 22, 2019 by PetermansRedemption 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: They do? Might be dependent upon what teams they are refereeing...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I dont get why the Jets were declining. Other than the obvious "Its the Jets" answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I dont get why the Jets were declining. Other than the obvious "Its the Jets" answer. I really wish Belichek had kept committing penalties. I wonder how many times it would have taken Gase to understand what was happening. I found it amusing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 hours ago, matter2003 said: Why did those idiots decline the penalties? If they accepted them I am assuming the clock would have stopped? Not that it matters when you are getting blown out 33-0 One word: Gase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 hours ago, HOUSE said: Rex Ryan once saw a rule book but the pages were moldy He would have read the book if it was athletes foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 My question is how do you fix the rules. If you change the rule so that the clock stops for penalties, it allows the losing team to save time by deliberately committing a penalty. 40 seconds could easily be more valuable than the 5 yard cost of a false start penalty to a team that is three points behind with no timeouts and 45 seconds on the game clock. Could you actually write the rule so the clock only stops for penalties if the team committing the penalty is ahead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, Sundancer said: I really wish Belichek had kept committing penalties. I wonder how many times it would have taken Gase to understand what was happening. I found it amusing. You really cannot get away with that. If the Referee deems that you are intentionally and repeatedly delaying the game they can absolutely hit you with an Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty and attribute it to the bench. End of controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Bellichick is a smart guy operating in a league full of dolts. Its like if you went back to 8th grade as an adult. You would be a school all star! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 So genius...he used it in a game he was winning 33-0. And I guess he made Gase decline the penalties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 my guess is that it happened against belichick in a previous game that went unnoticed by most. he didnt like that. so he just wanted to expose the flaw in the rule...seeing as he did it at a time that was of little value 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Livinginthepast said: Its like if you went back to 8th grade as an adult. You would be a school all star! Go through these threads, read some of them, and look me in the eye and say with a straight face what you state above. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Mango said: I also don’t think BB’s thought there was to run out the clock. My guess is Gase declines, and BB was like “wait, what? You need the clock, I need the 5 yards. Let’s try this again Adam” then facepalm laughter ensued. That was the speculation I heard - Bill wanted the extra space for his punter, and didn't expect Gase to decline. But maybe Gase didn't "need the clock" - maybe at that point he would have been happy if Belicheck could have just run the clock down to 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 10 hours ago, voodoo poonani said: Belicheat does it again! This time with a loophole, takes 1 min 22 sec off of the clock. Nobody goes through the rulebook quite like him. I'm surprised he wasted it against the jests. Link for almost 50 years I have wondered why the clock starts on a delay of game call especially if it was intentional to take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) In the end the fix seems so simple - anytime the flag is thrown the clock stops (if it was running) and the team accepting or declining the penalty has on option to either leave it stopped or have the refs wind the clock with an automatic 10 second run off (or longer up to 30 seconds if you want) for the delay. That way the Jets while behind - they can still decline the penalty, but have the clock stop. Conversely - if the Jets were ahead and there was a false start (like the second Pats penalty) - the Jets could accept or decline the penalty, but they could choose to wind the clock and there would be a 10 second (or more) run off as a penalty. @papazoid - I agree - I think this happened to Belichek before and he wanted to expose it and use it to embarrass someone in the AFC east and was happy to do it to the Jets and Gase/Williams. Edited October 22, 2019 by Rochesterfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Proving yet again who is the smartest guy in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Simple solution to this: Make it an unsportsmanlike like penalty and if it repeats throw the coach out of the game. Rules are vague enough they probably could do it with current rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 11 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Belicheat Brady if the D Bag was so worried about playing time ............. Why was Brady playing in the 4th Why even int he 3rd QTR? The commentators inferred that Brady was overriding any decisions to put in backups. He wanted starters getting the reps. Then Michel got injured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I said to my friends last night that the Jets should have taken cheap shots at Brady since he was still in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Doc said: I said to my friends last night that the Jets should have taken cheap shots at Brady since he was still in the game. Gregg Williams should be fired for not getting his boys to do what he was brought in to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 7 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: I dont get why the Jets were declining. Other than the obvious "Its the Jets" answer. Because they wanted the game to end as fast as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Doc said: I said to my friends last night that the Jets should have taken cheap shots at Brady since he was still in the game. I've been waiting for a team to snap and do that for more than a decade. When the DBAG BB left Brady in the game when they crushed the Bills on Sunday night football during the Jauron era and they kept going for two deep in the 4th Q I was screaming for old Dick to call an all out blitz and kill Brady but all I got was Jaurons 1000 yard stare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 15 hours ago, voodoo poonani said: Belicheat does it again! This time with a loophole, takes 1 min 22 sec off of the clock. Nobody goes through the rulebook quite like him. I'm surprised he wasted it against the jests. Link BB was a fool to waste any advantage like that on the NYJs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 16 hours ago, Gugny said: No one knows the rules like Bill Belichick. It's part of what makes him the GOAT. There's no excuse for all teams in the NFL not operating on the same level, but they don't. Which is where BB finds and gains a genuine advantage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 15 hours ago, HOUSE said: Rex Ryan once saw a rule book but the pages were moldy Vontae Davis was looking at rule book but quit at half way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. SpacePuppy Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 This is less of BB being a genius and more of Gase being a knucklehead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Heard this week he sits in coach and gets first class seats for star players and performers of the week This is HUGE for team morale and loyalty, almost all coaches take first class for themself and leave players in coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, row_33 said: Heard this week he sits in coach and gets first class seats for star players and performers of the week... Not to be outdone, it is rumoured that owner Kraft gives those high performing individuals gift certificates to the spa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 12 hours ago, vincec said: Because they wanted the game to end as fast as possible. most everyone is looking at Belicheat as the genius Maybe Gase played BB and knew the time would run down to end the game No? yeah pro not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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