Tipster19 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 There’s bad coaches and there’s good coaches and every once in awhile there is thee coach. Enter Bill Belichick. Like many here I fully expected Belichick to take away the Bills’ strengths and for the most part he wasn’t able to do that but he found a flaw and exposed it. The ST play where they blocked the punt and scored off of it was just enough to make a difference in this game. He found a weakness/flaw and exploited it. Our rookie ST coach wasn’t prepared and it showed the difference between the grasshopper and the grandmaster. Time out should have been called but it wasn’t and the Patriots made the Bills pay the price. Somewhere I read that if the tables were turned the Patriots’ punter is instructed to throw the ball to the open receiver for an easy 1st down and in some cases maybe even be able to score. Like I said, there’s good coaches and then there’s a coach or 2 that out thinks the rest. Like it or not Belichick is probably the greatest coach of all time and unfortunately for us he’s in our division. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 No disrespect to you; however, I'm tired of hearing about Belichick and the Patriots... 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: There’s bad coaches and there’s good coaches and every once in awhile there is thee coach. Enter Bill Belichick. Like many here I fully expected Belichick to take away the Bills’ strengths and for the most part he wasn’t able to do that but he found a flaw and exposed it. The ST play where they blocked the punt and scored off of it was just enough to make a difference in this game. He found a weakness/flaw and exploited it. Our rookie ST coach wasn’t prepared and it showed the difference between the grasshopper and the grandmaster. Time out should have been called but it wasn’t and the Patriots made the Bills pay the price. Somewhere I read that if the tables were turned the Patriots’ punter is instructed to throw the ball to the open receiver for an easy 1st down and in some cases maybe even be able to score. Like I said, there’s good coaches and then there’s a coach or 2 that out thinks the rest. Like it or not Belichick is probably the greatest coach of all time and unfortunately for us he’s in our division. And then there are coaches who get referees who call phantom holding calls against the team he is playing against, ignore his own teams holding and look the other way during intentional grounding, pass interference calls. If he’s the goat of anything it’s creating a culture that the officiating thinks it has to help his team remain on top. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: There’s bad coaches and there’s good coaches and every once in awhile there is thee coach. Enter Bill Belichick. Like many here I fully expected Belichick to take away the Bills’ strengths and for the most part he wasn’t able to do that but he found a flaw and exposed it. The ST play where they blocked the punt and scored off of it was just enough to make a difference in this game. He found a weakness/flaw and exploited it. Our rookie ST coach wasn’t prepared and it showed the difference between the grasshopper and the grandmaster. Time out should have been called but it wasn’t and the Patriots made the Bills pay the price. Somewhere I read that if the tables were turned the Patriots’ punter is instructed to throw the ball to the open receiver for an easy 1st down and in some cases maybe even be able to score. Like I said, there’s good coaches and then there’s a coach or 2 that out thinks the rest. Like it or not Belichick is probably the greatest coach of all time and unfortunately for us he’s in our division. Because this always works out. Do you even watch football? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I said before the game as long as Belichick is the Pat’s HC we will be swimming upstream. We all may hate to admit it but he’s the best ever at what he does. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: No disrespect to you; however, I'm tired of hearing about Belichick and the Patriots... Then this board isn’t the place for you because people here are obsessed with them and continually make posts about them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Hoodie did what he always does...... He let the other team beat itself. What sucked was watching Daboll not coach up JA to hit a hot read or dump off on a single one of the million blitzes he seemed to face in the first half. I used to think the saying, “ A punt is a good play” was the stupidest thing ever. Now I get it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: There’s bad coaches and there’s good coaches and every once in awhile there is thee coach. Enter Bill Belichick. Like many here I fully expected Belichick to take away the Bills’ strengths and for the most part he wasn’t able to do that but he found a flaw and exposed it. The ST play where they blocked the punt and scored off of it was just enough to make a difference in this game. He found a weakness/flaw and exploited it. Our rookie ST coach wasn’t prepared and it showed the difference between the grasshopper and the grandmaster. Time out should have been called but it wasn’t and the Patriots made the Bills pay the price. Somewhere I read that if the tables were turned the Patriots’ punter is instructed to throw the ball to the open receiver for an easy 1st down and in some cases maybe even be able to score. Like I said, there’s good coaches and then there’s a coach or 2 that out thinks the rest. Like it or not Belichick is probably the greatest coach of all time and unfortunately for us he’s in our division. Belichick has been there for 20 years. Most of his staff has been there a long time. His details and discipline are entrenched. Because of longevity and consistency his teams practice fine details and situations that other coaches don’t have time to do. The Pats* even practice their rule stretching pick plays, their holding without getting called, and how to draw holding. He saw we have a rookie ST coach and he went after him. He will probably do it again. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: No disrespect to you; however, I'm tired of hearing about Belichick and the Patriots... None taken but they do stand directly in our path for success. I’m only mentioning it because we just played them, and lost again. Otherwise I’m just concerned with whoever is currently on our agenda. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Yeah considering we held their offense to 9 points but they still won the game, I agree it came down to that play. The announcers completely missed everything so nobody realized it until after the game when the move was explained. It was super ballsy because we would not just have converted, it would have been a huge gain for us and a massive momentum shift at home. The frustrating thing is that McD is always preaching fundamentals, and yet this was a high school level play at the most basic level. You have your special teams coach watching, you have your assistant coaches watching, you have your gunner himself watching his coverage man slide off him and head over to edge rush, you have spotters upstairs on the headsets watching, you have the head coach watching, you have the veteran DiMarco realizing he's now got to block two people which he can't obviously do. And yet there was no timeout, there was no reaction by the gunner, the punter never acknowledged the move, DiMarco could have called TO or even intentionally moved presnap and taken the 5 yards. In high school your "Punt Protectors" are supposed to react to any line changes and make adjustment calls for the ends and wings. They can even motion a gunner to follow his man inside. There's plenty of time on the clock, the ball isn't snapped until the protectors call for it. If there's any doubt you take the delay and re-set. But our team just let it happen and nobody was coached properly or aware enough to counter this bold but simple move. McD got the job as a head coach because he's a great person and a great leader, but he definitely has some loose ends as a game technician at this point in his career. If that play cost us the game, it could have cost us a home playoff game down the road. That's probably a stretch, it's a long season, but.... gotta tip your hat to the smug shrew for that call. He knew his offense was going to struggle. Dude has some cajones. Edited October 1, 2019 by Da webster guy 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Tipster19 said: There’s bad coaches and there’s good coaches and every once in awhile there is thee coach. Enter Bill Belichick. Like many here I fully expected Belichick to take away the Bills’ strengths and for the most part he wasn’t able to do that but he found a flaw and exposed it. The ST play where they blocked the punt and scored off of it was just enough to make a difference in this game. He found a weakness/flaw and exploited it. Our rookie ST coach wasn’t prepared and it showed the difference between the grasshopper and the grandmaster. Time out should have been called but it wasn’t and the Patriots made the Bills pay the price. Somewhere I read that if the tables were turned the Patriots’ punter is instructed to throw the ball to the open receiver for an easy 1st down and in some cases maybe even be able to score. Like I said, there’s good coaches and then there’s a coach or 2 that out thinks the rest. Like it or not Belichick is probably the greatest coach of all time and unfortunately for us he’s in our division. He would’ve been sacked. He had zero time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Then this board isn’t the place for you because people here are obsessed with them and continually make posts about them. Ehhh, actually this board isn’t the place for those people. ( I use the term loosely). This is a Bills board, and they can go hang on the Pats boards if they want to discuss things related to them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Belichick is a cheatin' piece of crap. The only reason he wins now is that the NFL is invested in maintaining the myth of the Cheats "dynasty". ***** Belichick and the horse he rode in on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Da webster guy said: Yeah considering we held their offense to 9 points but they still won the game, I agree it came down to that play. The announcers completely missed everything so nobody realized it until after the game when the move was explained. It was super ballsy because we would not just have converted, it would have been a huge gain for us and a massive momentum shift at home. The frustrating thing is that McD is always preaching fundamentals, and yet this was a high school level play at the most basic level. You have your special teams coach watching, you have your assistant coaches watching, you have your gunner himself watching his coverage man slide off him and head over to edge rush, you have spotters upstairs on the headsets watching, you have the head coach watching, you have the veteran DiMarco realizing he's now got to block two people which he can't obviously do. And yet there was no timeout, there was no reaction by the gunner, the punter never acknowledged the move, DiMarco could have called TO or even intentionally moved presnap and taken the 5 yards. In high school your "Punt Protectors" are supposed to react to any line changes and make adjustment calls for the ends and wings. They can even motion a gunner to follow his man inside. There's plenty of time on the clock, the ball isn't snapped until the protectors call for it. If there's any doubt you take the delay and re-set. But our team just let it happen and nobody was coached properly or aware enough to counter this bold but simple move. McD got the job as a head coach because he's a great person and a great leader, but he definitely has some loose ends as a game technician at this point in his career. If that play cost us the game, it could have cost us a home playoff game down the road. That's probably a stretch, it's a long season, but.... gotta tip your hat to the smug shrew for that call. He knew his offense was going to struggle. Dude has some cajones. Good analysis and you are right. There is always that bit of debate that goes on over the headsets and sometimes there just is not enough time. I actually think our ST have been better this year and am willing to let this guy grow into his role, but some do not see it that way. Either way, it will be another teaching moment for a pretty young team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: No disrespect to you; however, I'm tired of hearing about Belichick and the Patriots... Then don’t listen to Coach Weiss on NFLR in the mornings. He makes me sick with the Tommy Boy references, and so on. As far as the game, yes our ST coaching could be much better coached, and they almost made it to the punter another time, so the protection is not there, but why we had the punt blocked, was a terrible snap from the long snapper. It almost hit the ground before he tried to kick it. I’m not saying I like our punter as I think he sucks, but that blocked punt wasn’t his fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Oh come on, he has only been on top for twenty years by cheating!! Coaching, drafting, QB play, scouting, film study has nothing to do with it! 3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Belichick is a cheatin' piece of crap. The only reason he wins now is that the NFL is invested in maintaining the myth of the Cheats "dynasty". ***** Belichick and the horse he rode in on. Deep post, great insight, so glad you are on TBD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 He’s the GOAT...at cheating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, vorpma said: Oh come on, he has only been on top for twenty years by cheating!! Coaching, drafting, QB play, scouting, film study has nothing to do with it! Deep post, great insight, so glad you are on TBD! He cheated his way to his first two Super Bowls, and had two given to him by stupid coaches for Seattle and Atlanta. We don't know how many other times he cheated and didn't get caught. On Sunday, they used the pick play and deliberately knocked out JA to win the game. That's cheating as well, the NFL just doesn't call them on it. I'm sick and tired of watching these guys get away with murder. Their "dynasty" is a farce, enabled by an NFL that looks the other way and keeps giving them call after call. Sunday was the last straw for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 he's so great they only won by 6 points and they had neatly as many turnovers in their favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Tipster19 said: There’s bad coaches and there’s good coaches and every once in awhile there is thee coach. Enter Bill Belichick. Like many here I fully expected Belichick to take away the Bills’ strengths and for the most part he wasn’t able to do that but he found a flaw and exposed it. The ST play where they blocked the punt and scored off of it was just enough to make a difference in this game. He found a weakness/flaw and exploited it. Our rookie ST coach wasn’t prepared and it showed the difference between the grasshopper and the grandmaster. Time out should have been called but it wasn’t and the Patriots made the Bills pay the price. Somewhere I read that if the tables were turned the Patriots’ punter is instructed to throw the ball to the open receiver for an easy 1st down and in some cases maybe even be able to score. Like I said, there’s good coaches and then there’s a coach or 2 that out thinks the rest. Like it or not Belichick is probably the greatest coach of all time and unfortunately for us he’s in our division. Brian moorman used to do it all the time. Does that make the coaches he played under geniuses or GOATS as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagentqb Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Anybody considered that maybe the punt play was actually a screw up by the Pats special teams? Find it hard to believe he purposely left a gunner totally uncovered. Pictures I saw showed no Patriot within at least 20 yards, if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: He cheated his way to his first two Super Bowls, and had two given to him by stupid coaches for Seattle and Atlanta. We don't know how many other times he cheated and didn't get caught. On Sunday, they used the pick play and deliberately knocked out JA to win the game. That's cheating as well, the NFL just doesn't call them on it. I'm sick and tired of watching these guys get away with murder. Their "dynasty" is a farce, enabled by an NFL that looks the other way and keeps giving them call after call. Sunday was the last straw for me. Snot bubbles! 10 hours ago, Bob in STL said: Belichick has been there for 20 years. Most of his staff has been there a long time. His details and discipline are entrenched. Because of longevity and consistency his teams practice fine details and situations that other coaches don’t have time to do. The Pats* even practice their rule stretching pick plays, their holding without getting called, and how to draw holding. He saw we have a rookie ST coach and he went after him. He will probably do it again. Come on, he cheats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Belichick blows goats, I have proof. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Was the gunner left totally uncovered? If the gunner hadn’t had a sole around him, why didn’t anyone notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Da webster guy said: Yeah considering we held their offense to 9 points but they still won the game, I agree it came down to that play. The announcers completely missed everything so nobody realized it until after the game when the move was explained. It was super ballsy because we would not just have converted, it would have been a huge gain for us and a massive momentum shift at home. The frustrating thing is that McD is always preaching fundamentals, and yet this was a high school level play at the most basic level. You have your special teams coach watching, you have your assistant coaches watching, you have your gunner himself watching his coverage man slide off him and head over to edge rush, you have spotters upstairs on the headsets watching, you have the head coach watching, you have the veteran DiMarco realizing he's now got to block two people which he can't obviously do. And yet there was no timeout, there was no reaction by the gunner, the punter never acknowledged the move, DiMarco could have called TO or even intentionally moved presnap and taken the 5 yards. In high school your "Punt Protectors" are supposed to react to any line changes and make adjustment calls for the ends and wings. They can even motion a gunner to follow his man inside. There's plenty of time on the clock, the ball isn't snapped until the protectors call for it. If there's any doubt you take the delay and re-set. But our team just let it happen and nobody was coached properly or aware enough to counter this bold but simple move. McD got the job as a head coach because he's a great person and a great leader, but he definitely has some loose ends as a game technician at this point in his career. If that play cost us the game, it could have cost us a home playoff game down the road. That's probably a stretch, it's a long season, but.... gotta tip your hat to the smug shrew for that call. He knew his offense was going to struggle. Dude has some cajones. Excellent post, thank you. I have one question, does Dimarco have 'authority " to cal timorous, does Bojo. DiMarco knew he was screwed, watch him on that play trying to block 2 guys, he sticks out he left hand didnt even touch the rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Say... any of you gents remember Moorman's first year here? There was a similar situation where the gunner was left completely uncovered and Moorman totally tipped his hand (they even had a unique close up angle of his face before the snap and his eyes were about to pop out of his head)... needless to say the whole thing ended up blowing up, per YE OLE's memory. All of that to say, that uncovered gunner throw to the sideline isn't always a gimme and YE OLE doesn't really want to see BOJO attempting such a feat, especially after seeing his handiwork on the impromptu fake FG against the TItans last year. But, if that protection was right, we probably win that game. Even another 21 yard BOJO SPECIAL would've been better than an automatic 7 the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 He is a mastermind I’ll give him that but I do think he’s a sick individual. Far more so than Brady He scouted Josh out all week most likely and realized he’s the kind of kid who tries do to much. I mean yes part of his job but I have no doubt he had it in his game plan to take a shot on Josh like that if it becomes available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I think the keyboard defense signal sealed the deal for me. Sorry Lombardi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 15 hours ago, Tipster19 said: There’s bad coaches and there’s good coaches and every once in awhile there is thee coach. Enter Bill Belichick. Like many here I fully expected Belichick to take away the Bills’ strengths and for the most part he wasn’t able to do that but he found a flaw and exposed it. The ST play where they blocked the punt and scored off of it was just enough to make a difference in this game. He found a weakness/flaw and exploited it. Our rookie ST coach wasn’t prepared and it showed the difference between the grasshopper and the grandmaster. Time out should have been called but it wasn’t and the Patriots made the Bills pay the price. Somewhere I read that if the tables were turned the Patriots’ punter is instructed to throw the ball to the open receiver for an easy 1st down and in some cases maybe even be able to score. Like I said, there’s good coaches and then there’s a coach or 2 that out thinks the rest. Like it or not Belichick is probably the greatest coach of all time and unfortunately for us he’s in our division. Our Center blew the snap. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 16 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: No disrespect to you; however, I'm tired of hearing about Belichick and the Patriots... He’s a TURD!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 12 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Excellent post, thank you. I have one question, does Dimarco have 'authority " to cal timorous, does Bojo. DiMarco knew he was screwed, watch him on that play trying to block 2 guys, he sticks out he left hand didnt even touch the rusher. Yeah any active player on the field or McD can call time out, although depending on field position a smart move is to just jump pre snap or call the center to hold the snap for the 5 yd delay penalty. You essentially trade 5 yds instead burning a timeout. Honestly guys its really embarrassing that our special teams coach, veteran DiMarco and our HC all failed to kill that punt pre snap. We could be 4-0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Where is the ball washing emoji? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 A 16-10 game where the losing team had a zillion turnovers. Yes the blocked punt was good coaching and targeting Tre White on his first play back was nice - but I doubt if this game tape will ever be used to showcase how great Belichik is. If anything, our halftime adjustments were better than the Pats'. Also, I think his comments that he would not coach Jones any differently w.r.t to the Allen hit were in extremely poor taste. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 10:19 PM, Meatloaf63 said: And then there are coaches who get referees who call phantom holding calls against the team he is playing against, ignore his own teams holding and look the other way during intentional grounding, pass interference calls. If he’s the goat of anything it’s creating a culture that the officiating thinks it has to help his team remain on top. I have no love for any NE teams. But all the crying like this is as obnoxious as perpetually losing to those ass clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Really, rotten luck for us Bills fans. Best coach and QB. BB has made it so that the Bills or any team has to be near perfect just to have a chance. It’s pretty tiring. I’m getting old - the Bills are a very good team this year and deserve better than to just hope for a WC this early in the season. Most other divisions, we’d be the top contender right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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