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Wow, i thought he was pretty much invisible today.   The tackle he made on the outside was pretty nice though.  Guess I missed some.

 

Shaq coming from the inside looks like he should be moved there permanently. He can't get home from the outside, but interesting in the middle.

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38 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

Our defensive line as a whole looked night and day different from last season.

 

We can finally get pressure on the QB again!   

Definitely.

 

I also thought that our defense came up with some very good blitz schemes.

 

Darnold was harassed today.

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Oliver's second half play was great.  Hopefully the first half was just nerves. He was creating issues up front and for the most part the edge guys had one on one matchups most of the day.  If he can get penetration or command double teams consistently the pass rush is going to be so much better this year.

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He looked fantastic today! Disruptive up the middle, blowing up the pocket and taking on double teams and driving them back in to the pocket. Very impressive!!! Came close on the sack and penetrated and a few running plays. Great start for the rookie and he will only improve from here!!!

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5) Ed Oliver looks impressive in debut

Despite the few weaknesses of the defense, it was hard to come away from the Jets game being anything but impressed with rookie defensive tackle Ed Oliver. All game, you could see glimpses of high-end potential. In one-on-ones, Oliver could brush aside a defender. He showed well on runs in between the tackles. Oliver showed a pass-rushing ability — heck, he even had the athleticism to drop back into coverage. Among all the things to review on film, seeing Oliver’s ability from the end-zone angle tops the list. While he didn’t put up eye-popping statistics, it seemed like he continued to be a nuisance for the Jets offensive line throughout the game. Between Oliver and the performance of middle linebacker Tremaine Edmunds, the Bills have to be feeling reasonably optimistic about their two young core defensive players.

 

https://theathletic.com/1195162/2019/09/08/seven-observations-from-bills-win-over-jets-josh-allen-is-still-inconsistent-and-questioning-the-offensive-game-plan/

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2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

Our defensive line as a whole looked night and day different from last season.

 

We can finally get pressure on the QB again!   

This is why I  believe we win more than 8 games this year AND make the playoffs!  Well or course, the running game must contribute and take the pressure off Allen as was evident today.  Any QB will make mistakes if he's doing nothing but chucking the ball an entire half. 

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3 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

Our defensive line as a whole looked night and day different from last season.

 

We can finally get pressure on the QB again!   

The pleasant surprise defensively for sure. Murphy helps, Oliver helps, but this Shaq Lawson guy we picked up is the one I'm really impressed with.

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3 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

The pleasant surprise defensively for sure. Murphy helps, Oliver helps, but this Shaq Lawson guy we picked up is the one I'm really impressed with.

 

And McDermott and Frazier used Murphy and Shaq right. Shaq was out there plenty on early downs, Murphy was in their rush package. 

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7 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Wow, i thought he was pretty much invisible today.   The tackle he made on the outside was pretty nice though.  Guess I missed some.

 

Shaq coming from the inside looks like he should be moved there permanently. He can't get home from the outside, but interesting in the middle.

I think his impact was obvious from the start. You could tell the Jets feared him and it was creating plenty of opportunities for others. 

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4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Ed Oliver had a good game today.  No major rookie mistakes except for that drop back, for which I can't blame him.  Frazier, WTF you thinkin'?  C'mon man, just turn this dog loose and let him hunt.

Yeah.  Never go full Rex Ryan.

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7 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Love the look by the OL he rag-dolled in that second clip, he takes a quick peek to see if Ed has destroyed his QB, then pops around ready to block a phantom defender, as if he's hoping no one noticed! ?

 

Btw, I now see why Darnold missed that wide open receiver!

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13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Love Eddie O. how did Quinnen look? I know he left with an ankle injury at some point.

 

Popped on Jets board for delicious tears, and they mentioned Quinnen with a Zero stat line.

Didn't hear his named called all game, possibly affected the bad snap?

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Just now, Dat said:

 

Popped on Jets board for delicious tears, and they mentioned Quinnen with a Zero stat line.

Didn't hear his named called all game, possibly affected the bad snap?

I didn’t hear his name either but had the tv sound off in the 4th qtr (it was bringing them luck to have it off so left it off)

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Hmmmm 

 

8 minutes ago, Dat said:

 

Popped on Jets board for delicious tears, and they mentioned Quinnen with a Zero stat line.

Didn't hear his named called all game, possibly affected the bad snap?

Yes he did affect the bad snap according to this article. Josh attributed it to crowd noise and miscommunication (probably in addition to QW)

 

https://nypost.com/2019/09/09/quinnen-williams-jets-debut-wasnt-all-bad/

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3 hours ago, Mountain Man said:

I think his impact was obvious from the start. You could tell the Jets feared him and it was creating plenty of opportunities for others. 

I saw him get some penetration, just didn't see him finishing plays, looked like he couldn't get off the blocks a lot if times.  I have been looking back at the game and I see more if what he was doing in retrospect.  Pretty good game, especially for the first one out of the gates.  He certainly caused Darnold some headaches, even if they dont go down as anything in the stat sheet. 

 

Shaq seemed to benefit from him quite a bit and that was nice to see, also liked when they put Shaq inside and let him rush the passer, that might be a better place for him.  Use him more like a JJ Watt, outside on early downs, scoot him inside and let him use his quickness and inline skills to get after the passer on passing downs.  The two of them inside on passing situations should be a nightmare for teams.

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Hmmmm 

 

Yes he did affect the bad snap according to this article. Josh attributed it to crowd noise and miscommunication (probably in addition to QW)

 

https://nypost.com/2019/09/09/quinnen-williams-jets-debut-wasnt-all-bad/

 

Yeah, when they showed the replay, you could see Quinnen basically knocked Morse over. Pretty quiet the rest of the day, but that was pretty impressive. 

 

 

Still, Ed flashed throughout the day. Looking forward to more of the same next week. 

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45 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

Oliver was everywhere yesterday.  He looked great as an interior guy.

 

I was happy that they got Jordan Phillips a bunch of 2nd-half snaps to keep Eddie fresh too.

 

And don't sleep on Vincent Taylor. Thank you Miami. Bills are super deep with young DTs who can play. 

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