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10 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

We don’t have to lie to ourselves and say he was awesome today. But, he had awesome moments. What I definitively saw, though, was progress. The type of progress we wanted. We got what we wanted to see. Progress.

 

I agree. 

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He looked like Blake Bortles in the 1st half.  

 

Good to see he kept his head on straight, but he has got to move on from performances like this.  -4 in turnover ratio plus losing the time of possession battle is recipe for disaster in almost any other case.

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26 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I thought he played well, and the INT pick six was not his fault at all, regardless if it was not a perfect pass. But it's tough to say 64.8 with three drops when he had one or two INT drops as well.

 

I beg to differ. You want to throw it low in traffic. That pass was perfectly placed. Beasley had two hands on it before he tossed it for a pick 6.

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2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I beg to differ. You want to throw it low in traffic. That pass was perfectly placed. Beasley had two hands on it before he tossed it for a pick 6.

A 'perfect pass" to me is a foot higher. It was in no way a bad pass. Beasley would say he has to make that catch 100 out of 100 tries. But he also could have had two other INTs. That one was not on him at all.

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1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

I saw a game I wanted to. Allen shook off the turnovers (99% teams Lose with 4 TOs) and led a team to a 4th game winning drive in 12 starts. 

OK, I agreed with Joe in Winslow now I am agreeing with MAJBobby; something truly happened today!

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I have trouble keeping separate the last couple drives for the win with the rest of the game.

 

Up until the last couple drives, the rest of the game he was a C or C- to me.

 

Last drive was an A.  He led a come-from-behind victory.

 

I guess you can average it out to a B-....but if I were a teacher I'd not want to give a grade yet because I really need to see more.

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4 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

I have trouble keeping separate the last couple drives for the win with the rest of the game.

 

Up until the last couple drives, the rest of the game he was a C or C- to me.

 

Last drive was an A.  He led a come-from-behind victory.

 

I guess you can average it out to a B-....but if I were a teacher I'd not want to give a grade yet because I really need to see more.

IMO, hard to look at it that way. If you reverse it and say he was an A earlier and a C when they needed him it would be a way different POV. The fact he came up big when they needed him, and throughout the fourth quarter, is a big thing. I said this in another thread, but late in the game it was 2nd and 17, and I was thinking, I am not worried, we can easily get this. Before, 2nd and 17 we were all but done.

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I say the Off the leg Beasley INT was a 50/50 on JA and Beasley.  Beasley should have caught it bit the ball was also behind him and off target.

 

With that said,  The gameplan at that point was moronic.  Maybe it was a take what they give you but why no runs?  Worse yet you have a QB who can gun the ball.  Throw it downfield once and a while.   

 

I am happy that the Bills escaped with a win but let’s hope they learn a lot from this game.

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Just now, BuffaloBill said:

I say the Off the leg Beasley INT was a 50/50 on JA and Beasley.  Beasley should have caught it bit the ball was also behind him and off target.

 

With that said,  The gameplan at that point was moronic.  Maybe it was a take what they give you but why no runs?  Worse yet you have a QB who can gun the ball.  Throw it downfield once and a while.   

 

I am happy that the Bills escaped with a win but let’ss Hope they learn a lot from this game.

He was stopped. I don't think it was behind him at all. An only a little low, but that is sometimes by design. He needs to make that catch 19 of 20 times and maybe more. That pass should never ever be an INT.

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Biggest thing to me was he showed complete command of the offense. Plenty of big time throws. Needs to see guys jumping his deep routes better, but an excellent showing underneath and in the intermediate area. A++ from me, the year 2 jump was completely visible. DaBoll is doing an excellent job bringing together a modern NFL offense as well.

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The nfl should change the way they track interceptions.  Neither of those ints were Allens fault. The fumbled snap was all Moorse.  The ball never touched Allens hands. The sack/fumble was his fault though.  

 

Also I thought Gore got out of the endzone.  We should have won 17-14.  :)

 

Stats wise, Buffalo dominated. 370 offensive yards to 223 for the Jets.  Held Bell to 60 yards rushing.

 

Singletary is the real deal too.

 

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Just now, NickelCity said:

One fumble was on Josh. Tuck it. 

 

It's crazy that THREE turnovers were unequivocally not on him. Without watching them personally, outside observers will crap on his stats. Oh well. 

 

This is correct. The first fumble is ALL him. He needed to do better there.

 

The second fumble was Morse 100%. The Beasley int was well, on beasley.

 

And the other INT was a lucky bounce on a deflection

 

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I have to go with a solid B.  The one interception was a poor pass/decision.  The fumble on the sack - can't do those.  The fumble on the snap was partly his fault.  
So I got to watch the game on delay and I saw the first half score and stats before watching.  I did not check the 2nd half/final score and just watched it.  

I was actually much more disappointed before I watched the first half than the actual game. .  After seeing that and then the 3rd qtr. I thought the Bills still had a chance but I knew it may also just be wishful thinking.  But overall I was impressed with most of his passes and decisions.  And more importantly, very impressed with the fact that he came back on the road from 4 huge turnovers!   Jets fans have to be disappointed with Darnold in this one too, very pedestrian game for him. 

 

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Excellent game by Allen.  The turnovers were not his fault, but he had some throws that should have been turnovers but weren't.  Regardless, he kept his head and led a 4th-quarter comeback.  It's a little dumb to do week-by-week comparisons, but this is better than what Mayfield or Darnold accomplished.

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2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

This is correct. The first fumble is ALL him. He needed to do better there.

 

The second fumble was Morse 100%. The Beasley int was well, on beasley.

 

And the other INT was a lucky bounce on a deflection

 

I mean yes it's on him he has to be able to protect the ball in a situation like that but Dawkins can't let a guy get around to this blindside that quick.

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1 hour ago, the skycap said:

What was his QBR?

 

Better than Jared Goff's, who only completed 59% of his passes.

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

I saw a game I wanted to. Allen shook off the turnovers (99% teams Lose with 4 TOs) and led a team to a 4th game winning drive in 12 starts. 

 

And 5th if you count the Miami loss last year where Clay dropped the TD pass.

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2 hours ago, rayray808 said:

Grade: B-

 

24/37 - 254 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT - 10 carries, 38 yards, 1 TD, 2 fumbles

 

He stayed poised all game, and when it mattered... he delivered. He seemed to never lose poise and focus. Of the 4 turnovers, one INT was batted at the line, the other INT was bounced of Beasleyʻs knee (which he should have caught, one fumble on a bad exchange on a 4th and 1 which I doubt he and Morse had much practice doing, and the last was a strip sack - which I put the total blame on him.

 

Josh Allen did two important things today: he led a team, and he won a game AWAY against a DIVISION RIVAL when nothing was going our way and they were even down 0-16.

 

GO BILLS!

This is who Allen is. Lots of talent, but without the "it" factor needed to be a winner. I'm actually happy that the Bills won today.

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I love Josh Allen but a B- is generous. I’d say a C is about right. Not bad. Not great. I think except for the fumble/sack the turnovers were not really bad plays. But he did get away with a couple. But ultimately he played really well in the 4th quarter!

 

Quarter 1-3: D

Quarter 4: A

 

Three Ds and an A equal a C. 

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1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said:

A 'perfect pass" to me is a foot higher. It was in no way a bad pass. Beasley would say he has to make that catch 100 out of 100 tries. But he also could have had two other INTs. That one was not on him at all.

you gotta catch that ball...Cole was just off today...

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Thought he really settled down in the 2nd half.  Little too much juice on his throws in the beginning to be expected I would say.  I give him a B because he got the win ultimately.  Great learning experience I would say.

 

A little lucky ultimately, but made plays when he needed to.  Jets dropped 2 other easy picks, so you can say that his picks were unfortunate, but that's not telling the entire story.  Another pick called back due to penalty.

 

Great the way things turned out and I'm sure he will learn.

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I give allen a b- today he was accurate ..made some big throws and most impressive was his poise ..darnold had jittery feet throwing ofd his back foot all day while Josh never faltered . He did however make some terrible decisions throwing the ball late he's gotta balance his aggresiveness 

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So far, he doesn't look a whole lot different from last year. The good and the bad. Still thinking run first on a lot of 3rd downs but usually making good on it, still generally not hitting guys in stride, still winning purely on will and guts, but not showing a lot of touch on throws. He was lucky he didn't have 2-3 more picks. Nice win, but there was a lot of ugly in that game. 

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27 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

This is correct. The first fumble is ALL him. He needed to do better there.

 

The second fumble was Morse 100%. The Beasley int was well, on beasley.

 

And the other INT was a lucky bounce on a deflection

 

Throwing the ball directly into an edge rusher is not an unlucky bounce, it was a bad decision.

 

Allen had 4 turnovers and yes, 2 of them can be blamed on others but Allen also had another couple plays that should have been turnovers.

 

C-, only because he got the win, or it would be a failing grade.

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Just now, Buddy Hix said:

Throwing the ball directly into an edge rusher is not an unlucky bounce, it was a bad decision.

 

Allen had 4 turnovers and yes, 2 of them can be blamed on others but Allen also had another couple plays that should have been turnovers.

 

C-, only because he got the win, or it would be a failing grade.

 

u mad?

 

 

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1 hour ago, matter2003 said:

I just dont understand why there were so few deep shots called when the Jets secondary is pretty bad...Bills could have put Brown and Foster on the outside and let them run

they should have run from the beginning more and exploited trumaine a lot more.   Daboll didnt do the team any favors in the first half.   

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