GunnerBill Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: We don’t have to lie to ourselves and say he was awesome today. But, he had awesome moments. What I definitively saw, though, was progress. The type of progress we wanted. We got what we wanted to see. Progress. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 It's a B+ for me. Why? Because he did what you need an NFL QB to do. He hit the clutch throws down the stretch and NEVER lost composure despite adversity. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I just dont understand why there were so few deep shots called when the Jets secondary is pretty bad...Bills could have put Brown and Foster on the outside and let them run 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eanyills Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Josh Allen- C+ Sam Darnold- F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Solid B from me. Did what he needed to do, stayed composed, and won the game. Some poor decisions called back because the Jets are not that disciplined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc1320 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 He looked like Blake Bortles in the 1st half. Good to see he kept his head on straight, but he has got to move on from performances like this. -4 in turnover ratio plus losing the time of possession battle is recipe for disaster in almost any other case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I thought he played well, and the INT pick six was not his fault at all, regardless if it was not a perfect pass. But it's tough to say 64.8 with three drops when he had one or two INT drops as well. I beg to differ. You want to throw it low in traffic. That pass was perfectly placed. Beasley had two hands on it before he tossed it for a pick 6. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Strip sack can't be all on him. Dawkins is at least partly to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I beg to differ. You want to throw it low in traffic. That pass was perfectly placed. Beasley had two hands on it before he tossed it for a pick 6. A 'perfect pass" to me is a foot higher. It was in no way a bad pass. Beasley would say he has to make that catch 100 out of 100 tries. But he also could have had two other INTs. That one was not on him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Defense A+. Bills are out of this one early if D does not step up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: I saw a game I wanted to. Allen shook off the turnovers (99% teams Lose with 4 TOs) and led a team to a 4th game winning drive in 12 starts. OK, I agreed with Joe in Winslow now I am agreeing with MAJBobby; something truly happened today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I have trouble keeping separate the last couple drives for the win with the rest of the game. Up until the last couple drives, the rest of the game he was a C or C- to me. Last drive was an A. He led a come-from-behind victory. I guess you can average it out to a B-....but if I were a teacher I'd not want to give a grade yet because I really need to see more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: The Allen hard on Nah, grip it and rip it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Win...A+... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: I have trouble keeping separate the last couple drives for the win with the rest of the game. Up until the last couple drives, the rest of the game he was a C or C- to me. Last drive was an A. He led a come-from-behind victory. I guess you can average it out to a B-....but if I were a teacher I'd not want to give a grade yet because I really need to see more. IMO, hard to look at it that way. If you reverse it and say he was an A earlier and a C when they needed him it would be a way different POV. The fact he came up big when they needed him, and throughout the fourth quarter, is a big thing. I said this in another thread, but late in the game it was 2nd and 17, and I was thinking, I am not worried, we can easily get this. Before, 2nd and 17 we were all but done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I say the Off the leg Beasley INT was a 50/50 on JA and Beasley. Beasley should have caught it bit the ball was also behind him and off target. With that said, The gameplan at that point was moronic. Maybe it was a take what they give you but why no runs? Worse yet you have a QB who can gun the ball. Throw it downfield once and a while. I am happy that the Bills escaped with a win but let’s hope they learn a lot from this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, BuffaloBill said: I say the Off the leg Beasley INT was a 50/50 on JA and Beasley. Beasley should have caught it bit the ball was also behind him and off target. With that said, The gameplan at that point was moronic. Maybe it was a take what they give you but why no runs? Worse yet you have a QB who can gun the ball. Throw it downfield once and a while. I am happy that the Bills escaped with a win but let’ss Hope they learn a lot from this game. He was stopped. I don't think it was behind him at all. An only a little low, but that is sometimes by design. He needs to make that catch 19 of 20 times and maybe more. That pass should never ever be an INT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 One fumble was on Josh. Tuck it. It's crazy that THREE turnovers were unequivocally not on him. Without watching them personally, outside observers will crap on his stats. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Biggest thing to me was he showed complete command of the offense. Plenty of big time throws. Needs to see guys jumping his deep routes better, but an excellent showing underneath and in the intermediate area. A++ from me, the year 2 jump was completely visible. DaBoll is doing an excellent job bringing together a modern NFL offense as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 The nfl should change the way they track interceptions. Neither of those ints were Allens fault. The fumbled snap was all Moorse. The ball never touched Allens hands. The sack/fumble was his fault though. Also I thought Gore got out of the endzone. We should have won 17-14. Stats wise, Buffalo dominated. 370 offensive yards to 223 for the Jets. Held Bell to 60 yards rushing. Singletary is the real deal too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, NickelCity said: One fumble was on Josh. Tuck it. It's crazy that THREE turnovers were unequivocally not on him. Without watching them personally, outside observers will crap on his stats. Oh well. This is correct. The first fumble is ALL him. He needed to do better there. The second fumble was Morse 100%. The Beasley int was well, on beasley. And the other INT was a lucky bounce on a deflection 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrider Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I have to go with a solid B. The one interception was a poor pass/decision. The fumble on the sack - can't do those. The fumble on the snap was partly his fault. So I got to watch the game on delay and I saw the first half score and stats before watching. I did not check the 2nd half/final score and just watched it. I was actually much more disappointed before I watched the first half than the actual game. . After seeing that and then the 3rd qtr. I thought the Bills still had a chance but I knew it may also just be wishful thinking. But overall I was impressed with most of his passes and decisions. And more importantly, very impressed with the fact that he came back on the road from 4 huge turnovers! Jets fans have to be disappointed with Darnold in this one too, very pedestrian game for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Excellent game by Allen. The turnovers were not his fault, but he had some throws that should have been turnovers but weren't. Regardless, he kept his head and led a 4th-quarter comeback. It's a little dumb to do week-by-week comparisons, but this is better than what Mayfield or Darnold accomplished. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: This is correct. The first fumble is ALL him. He needed to do better there. The second fumble was Morse 100%. The Beasley int was well, on beasley. And the other INT was a lucky bounce on a deflection I mean yes it's on him he has to be able to protect the ball in a situation like that but Dawkins can't let a guy get around to this blindside that quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, macaroni said: https://forums.theganggreen.com/threads/pathetic-to-drop-a-16-point-lead.92748/ check out what their saying yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman3 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 4 game winning drives in 12 starts (should be 5 with the Clay drop) has got to be up there near the top, right? I'd love to see stats on that. Allen is clutch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 The guy is certainly unique. With his size, mobility and arm strength, he can do things not many others if any can do. If he ever learns how to play winning football for 4 quarters (less turnovers and dumb passes), he can be a top 5 QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class_of_2012 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, the skycap said: What was his QBR? Better than Jared Goff's, who only completed 59% of his passes. 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: I saw a game I wanted to. Allen shook off the turnovers (99% teams Lose with 4 TOs) and led a team to a 4th game winning drive in 12 starts. And 5th if you count the Miami loss last year where Clay dropped the TD pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 hours ago, rayray808 said: Grade: B- 24/37 - 254 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT - 10 carries, 38 yards, 1 TD, 2 fumbles He stayed poised all game, and when it mattered... he delivered. He seemed to never lose poise and focus. Of the 4 turnovers, one INT was batted at the line, the other INT was bounced of Beasleyʻs knee (which he should have caught, one fumble on a bad exchange on a 4th and 1 which I doubt he and Morse had much practice doing, and the last was a strip sack - which I put the total blame on him. Josh Allen did two important things today: he led a team, and he won a game AWAY against a DIVISION RIVAL when nothing was going our way and they were even down 0-16. GO BILLS! This is who Allen is. Lots of talent, but without the "it" factor needed to be a winner. I'm actually happy that the Bills won today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I love Josh Allen but a B- is generous. I’d say a C is about right. Not bad. Not great. I think except for the fumble/sack the turnovers were not really bad plays. But he did get away with a couple. But ultimately he played really well in the 4th quarter! Quarter 1-3: D Quarter 4: A Three Ds and an A equal a C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element115 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) I give Mahomes an A+ today. Oh and Watkins too. Oh, and throw in McCoy as well... Edited September 9, 2019 by Element115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said: A 'perfect pass" to me is a foot higher. It was in no way a bad pass. Beasley would say he has to make that catch 100 out of 100 tries. But he also could have had two other INTs. That one was not on him at all. you gotta catch that ball...Cole was just off today... Edited September 9, 2019 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonS Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) Thought he really settled down in the 2nd half. Little too much juice on his throws in the beginning to be expected I would say. I give him a B because he got the win ultimately. Great learning experience I would say. A little lucky ultimately, but made plays when he needed to. Jets dropped 2 other easy picks, so you can say that his picks were unfortunate, but that's not telling the entire story. Another pick called back due to penalty. Great the way things turned out and I'm sure he will learn. Edited September 9, 2019 by JasonS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkim0904 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 C+ John Brown pretty mush bailed him out in 4 Q. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I give allen a b- today he was accurate ..made some big throws and most impressive was his poise ..darnold had jittery feet throwing ofd his back foot all day while Josh never faltered . He did however make some terrible decisions throwing the ball late he's gotta balance his aggresiveness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skibum Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 So far, he doesn't look a whole lot different from last year. The good and the bad. Still thinking run first on a lot of 3rd downs but usually making good on it, still generally not hitting guys in stride, still winning purely on will and guts, but not showing a lot of touch on throws. He was lucky he didn't have 2-3 more picks. Nice win, but there was a lot of ugly in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: This is correct. The first fumble is ALL him. He needed to do better there. The second fumble was Morse 100%. The Beasley int was well, on beasley. And the other INT was a lucky bounce on a deflection Throwing the ball directly into an edge rusher is not an unlucky bounce, it was a bad decision. Allen had 4 turnovers and yes, 2 of them can be blamed on others but Allen also had another couple plays that should have been turnovers. C-, only because he got the win, or it would be a failing grade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Just now, Buddy Hix said: Throwing the ball directly into an edge rusher is not an unlucky bounce, it was a bad decision. Allen had 4 turnovers and yes, 2 of them can be blamed on others but Allen also had another couple plays that should have been turnovers. C-, only because he got the win, or it would be a failing grade. u mad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: I just dont understand why there were so few deep shots called when the Jets secondary is pretty bad...Bills could have put Brown and Foster on the outside and let them run they should have run from the beginning more and exploited trumaine a lot more. Daboll didnt do the team any favors in the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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