aristocrat Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Dont know that I would say you said anything that was wrong. He actually doesnt owe them anything. Now they could sue and argue that he should return some of the bonus. But they would actually have to win before he owed them anything. Unless they wrote something into his contract. I highly doubt they would have even tried to put such language in his contract as he would not have signed it. The lions sued Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson and won back money. It’s a very common thing. It just depends on the relationship of player and team. But the colts actually already reached reached a settlement with luck where they won’t go after money. They are probably hoping he comes back after a year off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, aristocrat said: The lions sued Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson and won back money. It’s a very common thing. It just depends on the relationship of player and team. But the colts actually already reached reached a settlement with luck where they won’t go after money. They are probably hoping he comes back after a year off. Neither retired due to injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, formerlyofCtown said: Neither retired due to injuries. That has no bearing on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, yungmack said: What is your personal hell that deforms your soul? So bitter. He is the one who quit on his team... So I don't know what deforms his soul. Go ahead though take your aggression out on me, I don't mind. Edited August 25, 2019 by Boca BIlls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: That has no bearing on it It absolutely does. Their is a big difference between I can't play and I dont want to play for you because you suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Iron Maiden Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Here it is Capt. Andrew Luck @CaptAndrewLuck FollowFollow @CaptAndrewLuck More Dearest mother — The quill has never felt more heavy. I have made the decision to holster my sidearm permanently. I shall battle no more. The decision is difficult, but, as the hogs taught me, I must be true to myself. I am coming home to care for you and the farm. — Andrew 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) I am watching his press conference, and just curious - is it me, or he is not able to pronounce "thank" at all? I am not native speaker but I've never heard such weird pronunciation. Edited August 25, 2019 by No_Matter_What Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Did you see what the Bills did to him at New England in 2016? Okay, not a position I will fight over, but I do believe he has gotten better. And back to the original questions and point, would they trade a 1 for Barkley, the answer is still "No," because they have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Iron Maiden said: Here it is Capt. Andrew Luck @CaptAndrewLuck FollowFollow @CaptAndrewLuck More Dearest mother — The quill has never felt more heavy. I have made the decision to holster my sidearm permanently. I shall battle no more. The decision is difficult, but, as the hogs taught me, I must be true to myself. I am coming home to care for you and the farm. — Andrew 8/25/2019 - Captain Andrew Luck lays down his side arm for a peaceful life in the country side with his ever anxious mother. A gentleman, a scholar, and the great soldier we didn't deserve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element115 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: He is the one who quit on his team... So I don't know what deforms his soul. Go ahead though take your aggression out on me, I don't mind. His FO quit on him the day he was drafted... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, Element115 said: His FO quit on him the day he was drafted... You think he comes back with another team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 He's going to come back. No doubt. Too young to hang it up. 3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: You think he comes back with another team? YES 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I can't believe people in Indiana boo'd Luck. Talk about a complete lack of class! That said, there are people like this everywhere and they do not speak (or boo) for the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, GreggTX said: I can't believe people in Indiana boo'd Luck. Talk about a complete lack of class! That said, there are people like this everywhere and they do not speak (or boo) for the majority. Some places boo more than others. Sometimes it feels like Philly fans just like making the sound of something. Many Indy fans will also tell you Peyton Manning should have won more for them. As if he didn't deliver everything any fanbase would ask for ? Edited August 25, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Irv said: He's going to come back. No doubt. Too young to hang it up. YES Well, if we needed any more confirmation that he's retired for good, this is certainly it... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Stunning news in one way, and yet not so stunning considering his injury history—sure am glad he doesn’t play for the Bills though! I could only imagine the Boards if this was happening to us right now, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Happy Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: You think he comes back with another team? Probably not. I think he is done with football. From what I've read, it is not what he wants to do anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: He is the one who quit on his team... So I don't know what deforms his soul. Go ahead though take your aggression out on me, I don't mind. ‘Quit on his team’...lol this ain’t college football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: 8/25/2019 - Captain Andrew Luck lays down his side arm for a peaceful life in the country side with his ever anxious mother. A gentleman, a scholar, and the great soldier we didn't deserve. One thing I learned in the whole Luck retirement saga is the guy behind this Twitter account stole the idea from Roger Sherman from The Ringer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: ‘Quit on his team’...lol this ain’t college football That's the worst part of it. The other guys in the locker room just lost an integral part of them. No different then losing the best man at your job, only this time he did it 2 weeks before the season starts. "Let me take my $90 million and run, Haynesworth style" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Saddened by this. A great loss to the Colts. A greater loss to the NFL. In November prior to the year Luck was drafted, I was at Churchill Downs for the Breeder’s Cup, with some buddies. There, before the final race, I spotted dude with a Colts’ Luck jersey- SIX MONTHS before he was even drafted! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Some people are more injury prone than others, and some simply aren’t fast healers. It takes a special body type to have the physical ability, mental capacity, and durability to stick around the league. Clearly Luck was not healthy. You don’t miss an entire season if you are healthy. Luck had this mysterious ankle / calf injury that seemed to never heal. You can’t blame an athlete for being frustrated and unable to play at 100% physical capability. It’s like Jim Kelly in 1997. He could have played till 1999 or 2000, but why play as a shadow of his former self? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Does this take Luck out of Hall of Fame consideration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 5 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: I am watching his press conference, and just curious - is it me, or he is not able to pronounce "thank" at all? I am not native speaker but I've never heard such weird pronunciation. Were you around when the Bills had Leodis McKelvin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 This is a sad case of a great football player being drafted by the wrong team. Irsay is crap as an owner. Luck could have been something special. Very sad story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coffin Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, unbillievable said: Does this take Luck out of Hall of Fame consideration? Absolutely it does 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 After watching Luck's interview i didn't realise he was in that much pain he is making the right choice. However i believe he could come back after he heals up and doesn't have the pressure of having to come back as soon as possible and can relax for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coffin Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 42 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: After watching Luck's interview i didn't realise he was in that much pain he is making the right choice. However i believe he could come back after he heals up and doesn't have the pressure of having to come back as soon as possible and can relax for awhile. The issue with him coming back after a year or 2 off and healthy is that if he gets hurt again, it's back to the same reason why he retired in the first place. Which leads me to believe that he's done for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Laughing Coffin said: The issue with him coming back after a year or 2 off and healthy is that if he gets hurt again, it's back to the same reason why he retired in the first place. Which leads me to believe that he's done for good. the desire to compete in most athletes is strong and deep down he didn't want to retire and doesn't want to go out like this, so once he starts feeling good he may change his mind. Worked for Bret Favre. Edited August 26, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coffin Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: the desire to compete in most athletes is strong and deep down he didn't want to retire and doesn't want to go out like this, so once he starts feeling good he may change his mind. Worked for Bret Favre. The one reason he specified though was he never wanted to do what he did in 2016 again (where he was too hurt to practice each week, but was playing in games). He vowed to never do that again to himself. So what if that were to happen to him week 4 into first year back? Would he retire after the year again? That’s why I feel like he’s done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, Laughing Coffin said: The one reason he specified though was he never wanted to do what he did in 2016 again (where he was too hurt to practice each week, but was playing in games). He vowed to never do that again to himself. So what if that were to happen to him week 4 into first year back? Would he retire after the year again? That’s why I feel like he’s done Probably but im not writing him off yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Probably but im not writing him off yet. Me neither. This could be a Michael Jordan type situation and he comes back in two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Me neither. This could be a Michael Jordan type situation and he comes back in two years. Lol now he's Michael Jordan? What if he came back in three days? Should we start referring to August 24 as Good Saturday? The legend of Kim Jung QB must only grow in his absence. Edited August 26, 2019 by 4merper4mer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: Lol now he's Michael Jordan? What if he came back in three days? Should we start referring to August 24 as Good Saturday? The legend of Kim Jung QB must only grow in his absence. No. Luck's white. The last retirement that shocked me this much was actually Jordan. He's nowhere near as dominant as his sport as Jordan, but he's young enough (like Jordan) to take a couple of years off and still have a good six or seven years in the league if he returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Talk about an entitled, ****** fan base, I can't believe some of the comments. I hope they are now faced with a 20 yr QB search and an equally long playoff drought. https://forums.colts.com/topic/62878-its-the-timing-of-it-all/page/4/ Quote Luck isn’t a pimple on Manning’s butt. Andrew luck . *. You will be remembered as a quitter. Can we get an Andrew quit chant going at Lucas oil? Would make my day Where's the jersey burning party at? If he’s quit in this team, he needs escorted from the building... I hope everyone burns his jersey as he leaves town. Lost all respect for him. Nope. He’s a quitter. Plain and simple Really hope he enjoys "travelling the world" with his trophy wife. He should be shunned, and his name removed from all Colts archives. To heck with him and his advisor (dad). I realize there are ******** everywhere, and we would probably have a few similar comments here under similar circumstances, but reading their board it just seems over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, stosh64 said: Talk about an entitled, ****** fan base, I can't believe some of the comments. I hope they are now faced with a 20 yr QB search and an equally long playoff drought. https://forums.colts.com/topic/62878-its-the-timing-of-it-all/page/4/ I realize there are ******** everywhere, and we would probably have a few similar comments here under similar circumstances, but reading their board it just seems over the top. I don't blame the fans one bit. Not one bit. Luck HAD to have known this back in the spring when the team could have made an adjustment. Yes, it's his right to quit when he wants to. But that RIGHT doesn't insulate him from criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Me neither. This could be a Michael Jordan type situation and he comes back in two years. Luck can play baseball?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 4 Skins name Case Keenum as starter and Haskins (or whomever) as backup. That leaves Colt McCoy as clean up man - or a trade possibility for Indy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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