Capco Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: That was the reading from a sensor on his wrist and was tied to the velocity of his fingers. The drag force on a football should be way more than that of a baseball so the difference in velocity from release to target should be significant. So, it would matter greatly where along the flight of the ball that the measurement takes place. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 ever hear of going out on top and not on a backslide? 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: He'd be a d-bag if he kept playing after he was no longer an asset to his team. I don't know how anyone can hold it against him that he wants to play as long as he can. He's still a top 5 active QB in the league. the goatiest goat of all goats should RETIRE If he loves it so much, get into the Booth or Coaching. (if he's not to selfish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gugny said: He'd be a d-bag if he kept playing after he was no longer an asset to his team. I don't know how anyone can hold it against him that he wants to play as long as he can. He's still a top 5 active QB in the league. Personally, I hope he plays long enough for us to beat them twice in a season. And, I hope (although doubt) it will be this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Just now, Rocky Landing said: Personally, I hope he plays long enough for us to beat them twice in a season. And, I hope (although doubt) it will be this season. then make it 2 or 3 more season where the Bills SWEEP Tommy into oblivion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 He was probably throwing a cellphone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Personally, I hope he plays long enough for us to beat them twice in a season. And, I hope (although doubt) it will be this season. I was just about to type this exact sentiment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 29 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Personally, I hope he plays long enough for us to beat them twice in a season. And, I hope (although doubt) it will be this season. With a record of 29 and 3, Tom Brady has won 90% ( 89.66% to be precise ) of his games vs the Bills.....I vote for him retiring now.....winning a few games if/when he's a shadow of himself won't do it for me...what, he'll be 29-6...I'd rather him be gone...right away...unfortunately, he wants to play...and he's still a very good QB.....so...I hope he retires because NE will still be a powerhouse with him behind center..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I would like to see Josh Allen challenge Tom Brady to a boxing match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Brady had the guy aim his speed gun at his car when he drive 61 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Gugny said: I think it's nice that someone, as he ages, can continue to do what he loves to do at a high level. Are you talking about Brady? Or Krafty? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: Interesting thing about that link: IF Brady* did, indeed, throw a ball at 61mph, the only QB ever drafted (at least since 2007) who could throw it faster at the combine was... Josh Allen. That 62mph was the fastest ever recorded at the combine. One thing I wonder about that metric, though: What are the circumstances for that stat? Is it literally, "see how fast you can throw it?" Or, are they running a drill, and measuring other things as well as speed of the ball? What is the context for the throw? They are not just going up there and throwing it as hard as they could The velocity is calculated during QB drills , so the velocity is just a bonus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: They are not just going up there and throwing it as hard as they could The velocity is calculated during QB drills , so the velocity is just a bonus Cool. To my mind, that makes Allen's accomplishment that much more impressive. I read elsewhere, recently, that Allen had the longest throw through the air, last season. 68.8 yards through the air, for a completion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BidsJr Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 https://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Radar-Coach-Pro-Level-Training/dp/B00ISCXPJA/ref=asc_df_B00ISCXPJA/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312194571989&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12732752145976744362&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019609&hvtargid=pla-493575327055&psc=1 Football not listed as one of the recommended ball sports for this model. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, BidsJr said: https://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Radar-Coach-Pro-Level-Training/dp/B00ISCXPJA/ref=asc_df_B00ISCXPJA/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312194571989&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12732752145976744362&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019609&hvtargid=pla-493575327055&psc=1 Football not listed as one of the recommended ball sports for this model. Is this in any way related to “the human body was not recommended to play football”? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Spygate, Deflate-gate, Velocity-gate? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Gugny said: He'd be a d-bag if he kept playing after he was no longer an asset to his team. I don't know how anyone can hold it against him that he wants to play as long as he can. He's still a top 5 active QB in the league. yes he is top 5 or better. earned every bit of it. even with the cheating. The girly man can play QB no doubt. but that dancing video thing. i suppose it is attractive to some fellows..... 1 hour ago, Augie said: Is this in any way related to “the human body was not recommended to play football”? ? and whaley's wisdom lives on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 The radar gun wasn’t stating velocity, it was guessing age based on velocity 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 14 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: I was going to ask where the video is, but oh wait. No video. Just gonna have to take Tom's word. When it comes to Tommy boy and the Pats**, are you surprised there is no video ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said: When it comes to Tommy boy and the Pats**, are you surprised there is no video ? Goodell burned it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: They are not just going up there and throwing it as hard as they could The velocity is calculated during QB drills , so the velocity is just a bonus Don’t sleep on Brady. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 What I want to know is how the arm looks half way through the season after Jerry and Ed plant him on his back a few times. I know winning the game is everything, but..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 He really is prolific if he is blowing 61 Men Per Hour. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Okay who switched the gun to kilometers. 61KPH = 37.9MPH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) Do deflated balls reach those speeds? How fast would Josh Allen throw under those conditions? Edited July 4, 2019 by Rocket94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Maybe I am just getting old, or probably just biased...or more likely a few too many whiskies, but while Brady is an amazing athlete he doesn’t seem like an amazing athlete where everyone gets excited about or rallies behind like Michael Jordan or Wayne Gretzky. He has dinked and doinked for 20 seasons and he will be remembered as probably one of the greatest athletes but he is Ringo Starr of the greatest athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 9:23 PM, Jay_Fixit said: Don’t sleep on Brady. Agreed. He's kind of been forgotten over the years, but the kid has a chance to be special. Everyone is talking about Michael Bennett and Ben Watson, but keep an eye on this Brady character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Agreed. He's kind of been forgotten over the years, but the kid has a chance to be special. Everyone is talking about Michael Bennett and Ben Watson, but keep an eye on this Brady character. I heard @Gugny say once that Brady had that "ohh so perfect jaw line" ? Edited July 4, 2019 by Patrick_Duffy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Leonhart2017 said: Maybe I am just getting old, or probably just biased...or more likely a few too many whiskies, but while Brady is an amazing athlete he doesn’t seem like an amazing athlete where everyone gets excited about or rallies behind like Michael Jordan or Wayne Gretzky. He has dinked and doinked for 20 seasons and he will be remembered as probably one of the greatest athletes but he is Ringo Starr of the greatest athletes. You aren't wrong He is absolutely one of the greatest athletes ever but he has done it a different way And has dinked and dunked his way to superstardom unlike a Brett Favre who was a complete gunslinger and was sometimes careless with the ball but an amazing QB and athlete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 ***** Tom Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Back on th Roids, tired of being a skinny chick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I would not call Brady one of the greatest athletes. By any physical measurement he is a piss poor athlete. That would be like calling a golfer, a racecar driver, or a tubby bowler a great athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 7:32 AM, ShadyBillsFan said: he's cheating again https://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-NFL-Combine-2008-2017/10243/dh/ Year: 2018 - Josh Allen Wyoming 62 (Left) 62 (Right) http://insidethepylon.com/nfl/2019-nfl-draft/2019/03/10/ball-velocity-is-bunk/ The idea of a minimum amount of necessary arm strength does make some sense, but the idea that there’s a hard threshold at exactly 55 doesn’t pass muster. Many of the most successful quarterbacks who actually threw at the Combine—more on that in a minute—barely cleared the 55 threshold. Joe Flacco, Russell Wilson, and Jameis Winston measured at exactly 55, while Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Marcus Mariota were at 56. Prior to 2016, it was arguably as difficult to find a successful passer with a 57+ as it was to find one who threw under 55. If so many of the quarterbacks who went on to have productive careers barely cleared the 55 mark, it’s absurd to think a passer who registers a 53 or 54 can’t succeed. Ball velocity numbers (MPH) from the Combine: 60 - Mahomes Allen was clocked at 74 mph at sports science...by far the highest they have ever measured and so much higher than the previous record they triple and quadruple checked the radar gum to make sure it was right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 TB 12 baby!!!! Kraft is shooting ropes because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 22 hours ago, Leonhart2017 said: Maybe I am just getting old, or probably just biased...or more likely a few too many whiskies, but while Brady is an amazing athlete he doesn’t seem like an amazing athlete where everyone gets excited about or rallies behind like Michael Jordan or Wayne Gretzky. He has dinked and doinked for 20 seasons and he will be remembered as probably one of the greatest athletes but he is Ringo Starr of the greatest athletes. yeah, he is total garbage and lucky.... you don't talk to NFL fans outside of Bills fans, right???? (hoping so for your sake...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: yeah, he is total garbage and lucky.... you don't talk to NFL fans outside of Bills fans, right???? (hoping so for your sake...) No I do and I also said he will be remembered as one of the greatest athletes of all time. I said the excitement behind him doesn’t match the excitement behind other all time greats of athletics like, Jordan, Ali orGretzky. I said he was the greatest just not the most compelling of the greatest. A minor distinction but I was pointing it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Even if he throws it 10 mph, he still has won 2 more Super Bowls than the Bills have even been to, and nobody would be surprised if he won another... The a**hole just won't ever retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 On 7/4/2019 at 7:39 PM, Leonhart2017 said: No I do and I also said he will be remembered as one of the greatest athletes of all time. I said the excitement behind him doesn’t match the excitement behind other all time greats of athletics like, Jordan, Ali orGretzky. I said he was the greatest just not the most compelling of the greatest. A minor distinction but I was pointing it out. His eventual cheating and PED revelations won't even tarnish him that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 In Tom's world there is no cheating, lying OR Shame. On 7/1/2019 at 10:23 AM, Royale with Cheese said: People have always under estimated Brady's arm strength just because he throws short a lot and doesn't really let it rip a lot. I've seen him throw some darts and was little surprised he had that much velocity by it. I don't doubt he can throw it 61 mph. He just doesn't use it very often because of the passer he is. It's similar to pitchers. A teammate of mine was drafted in the 4th round in the MLB draft. I used to watch his bullpen sessions when scouts were there. He could hit 97-98 mph when he reared back and threw it. In the games, he stayed around 91-93 mph because of he didn't have consistent control just letting it rip and plus, he could last longer. If he threw it as fast as he could every pitch...he would last 3-4 innings and his arm is done. He was a starter, not a closer or mid relief. More are like this as well. Gregg Maddux could hit mid 90's but wouldn't go above 90 mph very often. He threw this from the 40, on the line to the 8 yard line. That's got some velocity. Do the math. We have distance and time. It took 3 seconds to cover 35 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: His eventual cheating and PED revelations won't even tarnish him that much. I don’t really get the PED stuff when people accuse Brady. He doesn’t run faster. Isn’t increasing aerobically. Not adding mass. Not leaning out. Honestly, football is largely a game of genetic freaks with an emphasis on anaerobic skill. Which is largely born and not “trained” the same way an aerobic base is. Brady isn’t really showing signs of PED other than being better with body maintenance and diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Mango said: I don’t really get the PED stuff when people accuse Brady. He doesn’t run faster. Isn’t increasing aerobically. Not adding mass. Not leaning out. Honestly, football is largely a game of genetic freaks with an emphasis on anaerobic skill. Which is largely born and not “trained” the same way an aerobic base is. Brady isn’t really showing signs of PED other than being better with body maintenance and diet. So bring able to throw a football (allegedly) at 61 mph at age 42 is normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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