HOUSE Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 By: Justin DiLoro | 5 hours ago Usually, teams who have the best secondaries often limit the number of passing yards allowed. Apparently, Fox Sports didn’t get that memo. The outlet sent out a Twitter poll asking “Which NFL team has the best secondary?” The poll, which featured the options of the Baltimore Ravens, Los Angeles Chargers, Chicago Bears, and Cleveland Browns, curiously left off the team who allowed the fewest passing yards in the league last season. The Buffalo Bills. The Bills led the league by allowing only 179.8 passing yards per game, a 15-yard cushion over the second-place Jacksonville Jaguars. Bills safety Micah Hyde noticed this omission. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/17/buffalo-bills-secondary-left-out-mention-micah-hyde/ 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Under the radar isn't a bad thing. Sneak attack. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 There are 31 teams in the league, some teams are forgotten 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBillsFan Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, HOUSE said: By: Justin DiLoro | 5 hours ago Usually, teams who have the best secondaries often limit the number of passing yards allowed. Apparently, Fox Sports didn’t get that memo. The outlet sent out a Twitter poll asking “Which NFL team has the best secondary?” The poll, which featured the options of the Baltimore Ravens, Los Angeles Chargers, Chicago Bears, and Cleveland Browns, curiously left off the team who allowed the fewest passing yards in the league last season. The Buffalo Bills. The Bills led the league by allowing only 179.8 passing yards per game, a 15-yard cushion over the second-place Jacksonville Jaguars. Bills safety Micah Hyde noticed this omission. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/17/buffalo-bills-secondary-left-out-mention-micah-hyde/ Technically, the question wasn't, Which team has the best secondary in the NFL? They knew the Bills are number 1! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Let’s boycott until everyone respects us! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 you know, I’ve always hated Fox Sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Fox everything is starting to become unwatchable 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) Just watch the pundits take notice when we start stunting Eddie O back there... * Didn’t Wrecks have some hare brained schemes about defensive players dropping back in passing situations to non traditional coverage from their normal positions? Edited May 17, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I'll take another one of those Gronk Bombs to go please! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Let’s boycott until everyone respects us! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just a typical national media slant. They're just trying to draw the most readers/watchers. Fox Sports writers and pundits are generally a joke. Practically unwatchable as someone already observed. The Bills just need to let their play define the national narrative. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I agree our secondary is good but teams did run all over us last year so no need for huge passing numbers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, HOUSE said: By: Justin DiLoro | 5 hours ago Usually, teams who have the best secondaries often limit the number of passing yards allowed. Apparently, Fox Sports didn’t get that memo. The outlet sent out a Twitter poll asking “Which NFL team has the best secondary?” The poll, which featured the options of the Baltimore Ravens, Los Angeles Chargers, Chicago Bears, and Cleveland Browns, curiously left off the team who allowed the fewest passing yards in the league last season. The Buffalo Bills. The Bills led the league by allowing only 179.8 passing yards per game, a 15-yard cushion over the second-place Jacksonville Jaguars. Bills safety Micah Hyde noticed this omission. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/17/buffalo-bills-secondary-left-out-mention-micah-hyde/ Yards per game isn’t the most telling pass defense stat but, that said, the Bills were more than respectable in the two most key pass defense stats: yards per attempt and passer rating allowed. Tied for first in the league in the former and place third overall in the latter. It is journalistic dereliction of duty not to include the Bills in the top three over all, let alone top five. Just lazy work by FOX Sports. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I'm more concerned with performing during the season. We don't need this preseason adulation. It means absolutely nothing. A sports writer has to hit his or her word count before deadline. Nailed it: https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/08/21/nfl-preseason-predictions-team-records-playoffs-super-bowl-liii-champion 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, TroutDog said: I agree our secondary is good but teams did run all over us last year so no need for huge passing numbers. Wrong. The Bills were 9th best in yards per rush allowed. And to leave the Bills off, when they were 1st in YPP and total yardage despite having uncertainty at the 2nd starting spot until Wallace (who some considered a 1st round talent when the season was over) became a starter, added Gaines (who when healthy is a top CB and who will see less wear-and-tear as a 4th CB) and Kevin Johnson (a former 1st rounder who will be fine covering teams' 5th receiving option), and drafted Ed Oliver... But again, opinions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Wrong. The Bills were 9th best in yards per rush allowed. And to leave the Bills off, when they were 1st in YPP and total yardage despite having uncertainty at the 2nd starting spot until Wallace (who some considered a 1st round talent when the season was over) became a starter, added Gaines (who when healthy is a top CB and who will see less wear-and-tear as a 4th CB) and Kevin Johnson (a former 1st rounder who will be fine covering teams' 5th receiving option), and drafted Ed Oliver... But again, opinions... We gave up 114 yards per game at 4.2 ypc and there were multiple games with over 200 yards. Overall, yes, the numbers were good but that’s because we were always playing from behind and other teams were simply running to burn the clock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 It's Fox Sports. They're the ones who allowed the rigged "best fanbase vote" to go on without any mention of all the cheating on behalf of Titans fans. So, I guess what I'm saying is....Fox Sports Twitter polls are worth about as much as AOL stock at this point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, TroutDog said: I agree our secondary is good but teams did run all over us last year so no need for huge passing numbers. That would explain the low yards per game, but as I said above, they are elite in the ypa and passer rating allowed stats, too. We get any kind of pass rush to complement them, our secondary could be dominant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, K-9 said: Yards per game isn’t the most telling pass defense stat but, that said, the Bills were more than respectable in the two most key pass defense stats: yards per attempt and passer rating allowed. Tied for first in the league in the former and place third overall in the latter. It is journalistic dereliction of duty not to include the Bills in the top three over all, let alone top five. Just lazy work by FOX Sports. This has nothing to do with journalism, it's commenting/ editorial. I don't know how you guys don't get exhausted of being upset of an article. Who cares. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Just watch the pundits take notice when we start stunting Eddie O back there... * Didn’t Wrecks have some hare brained schemes about defensive players dropping back in passing situations to non traditional coverage from their normal positions? Every attacking 34 defense drops lineman occasionally the weakside olb on the Line Of scrimmage drops a good amount in a 34(that was Hughes a lot) .., also D ends are also occasionally asked to drop for overload blitzes von Miller drops in coverage a few times a game rex got too cute Edited May 17, 2019 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, Ol Dirty B said: This has nothing to do with journalism, it's commenting/ editorial. I don't know how you guys don't get exhausted of being upset of an article. Who cares. Op/Ed is journalism. Just like investigative, special features, politics, and everything else under that umbrella. Even a cursory examination of the pass defense stats suggests they were lazy in not mentioning the third best overall pass defense in the league last year. I could give two schits if any writer criticizes the Bills, warranted or not. But I have a low tolerance for laziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, TroutDog said: We gave up 114 yards per game at 4.2 ypc and there were multiple games with over 200 yards. Overall, yes, the numbers were good but that’s because we were always playing from behind and other teams were simply running to burn the clock. They were 16th in terms of rushing yards/game surrendered. And the number of running plays they faced was 22nd most, which is about 3 more running plays a game from top-10. If they were in the bottom of the pack in most of those categories, I would agree with you. But the passing yards/play is the most important stat. Edited May 17, 2019 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Can’t you just feel how not Celt this year is setting up for us? This is exactly where I want to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Doc said: They were 16th in terms of yards/game surrendered. And the number of running plays they faced was 22nd most, which is about 3 more running plays a game from top-10. If they were in the bottom of the pack in most of those categories, I would agree with you. But the passing yards/play is the most important stats. Yeah - there were 3 that stick out. NE just ran it up and down the field. The Jax game before fournette got tossed. And the Marlon Mack game. What's so stunning when looking at some of the defenses stats - We lost to Miami, and Houston and both had like 200 yards. Then there was the bears game where we somehow lost by 30 to a team with less than 200 yards on offense. I remember the end of the season but man, its easy to forget how lost this team was on offense even with Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: By: Justin DiLoro | 5 hours ago Usually, teams who have the best secondaries often limit the number of passing yards allowed. Apparently, Fox Sports didn’t get that memo. The outlet sent out a Twitter poll asking “Which NFL team has the best secondary?” The poll, which featured the options of the Baltimore Ravens, Los Angeles Chargers, Chicago Bears, and Cleveland Browns, curiously left off the team who allowed the fewest passing yards in the league last season. The Buffalo Bills. The Bills led the league by allowing only 179.8 passing yards per game, a 15-yard cushion over the second-place Jacksonville Jaguars. Bills safety Micah Hyde noticed this omission. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/17/buffalo-bills-secondary-left-out-mention-micah-hyde/ Hopefully, it will put a little "s*** in our secondary's grits" and inspire them on game day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 The Bills are generally speaking off the national radar esp when the team is average or bad. So I don't know why fans are always shocked or indignant when they get disrespected or ignored by the national media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: rex got too cute I will accept ‘fancy’, ‘tricky’, or ‘unconventional’. ‘Cute’ is not allowed for that mug, and even less allowed for his brudder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bill from NYC Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Just watch the pundits take notice when we start stunting Eddie O back there... * Didn’t Wrecks have some hare brained schemes about defensive players dropping back in passing situations to non traditional coverage from their normal positions? 1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said: Yes, he used to send Dareus, at 340 or so pounds into coverage. Sometimes he would stand still waving his arms. Something wrong with that? Edited May 17, 2019 by Bill from NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: I will accept ‘fancy’, ‘tricky’, or ‘unconventional’. ‘Cute’ is not allowed for that mug, and even less allowed for his brudder. Touché Rex outsmarted himself and turned a dominant 43 defense into a joke of a 34 that was full of out of position players Edited May 17, 2019 by Buffalo716 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Something wrong with that? “Hey, look! Isn’t that Jabba the Hut waving?!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, TroutDog said: We gave up 114 yards per game at 4.2 ypc and there were multiple games with over 200 yards. Overall, yes, the numbers were good but that’s because we were always playing from behind and other teams were simply running to burn the clock. 16th in rush yds allowed and that 4.2 you referenced was good enough for 10th best in the league. that's hardly teams running "all over us".... i'm confused as to how somebody would take the time to look up those numbers but then leave out the rankings..... that's a complete lack of context. 1 hour ago, Doc said: They were 16th in terms of rushing yards/game surrendered. And the number of running plays they faced was 22nd most, which is about 3 more running plays a game from top-10. If they were in the bottom of the pack in most of those categories, I would agree with you. But the passing yards/play is the most important stat. exactly. not sure where he's getting "ran all over us" must have just watched the 2nd pats game and tuned out the rest. Edited May 17, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 It was a twitter poll...90% of the people have no idea about anything other than their own team they just go with what they have heard...some of that is now probably several years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 It's just a twitter poll. Not very scientific, is it? 2 minutes ago, matter2003 said: It was a twitter poll...90% of the people have no idea about anything other than their own team they just go with what they have heard...some of that is now probably several years old Beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: 16th in rush yds allowed and that 4.2 you referenced was good enough for 10th best in the league. that's hardly teams running "all over us".... i'm confused as to how somebody would take the time to look up those numbers but then leave out the rankings..... that's a complete lack of context. exactly. not sure where he's getting "ran all over us" must have just watched the 2nd pats game and tuned out the rest. My point was that there were multiple games where teams barreled over us. It happened many times last year. Great run defenses don’t allow that, in my opinion. We need to improve there and, again, in my opinion, it requires setting the edge which we failed to do in multiple games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 In fairness, who’s our #2 DB? I know we have solid options, but it’s not even in writing yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TroutDog said: My point was that there were multiple games where teams barreled over us. It happened many times last year. Great run defenses don’t allow that, in my opinion. We need to improve there and, again, in my opinion, it requires setting the edge which we failed to do in multiple games. all fair points on that last statement there.I agree to be a great d they need to sure up the run d. but you're moving the goal posts. that was not your original point.... your initial argument was about our pass numbers being helped by an awful run d. the run d was average in yds allowed and top ten in YPC. that point holds no water. you referenced those numbers as if they somehow helped that argument. and they didn't.... at all. Edited May 17, 2019 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: all fair points on that last statement there.I agree to be a great d they need to sure up the run d. but you're moving the goal posts. that was not your original point.... your initial argument was about our pass numbers being helped by an awful run d. the run d was average in yds allowed and top ten in YPC. that point holds no water. you referenced those numbers as if they somehow helped that argument. and they didn't.... at all. Fair enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) CBS needs a public stoning... Edited May 17, 2019 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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