BillsfaninChicago Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Obviously the author of that article never watched the ending to Back to the Future III where Doc Brown told Jennifer (number two) “Your future hasn’t been written yet no ones has. Your future is what you make of it so make it a good one!” Which in fairness seems like a more than odd thing to say by a person who literally invented a time machine and saw that people’s futures had indeed been written. I suppose that is neither here nor there. Back to the topic at hand I don’t think they have any idea what is going to happen and I hope they are 28 picks off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: If they are picking 4th it won't be Beane and McDermott making that pick. Anything less than 8-8 and they should both be fired. Gotta agree with this, unless Allen is injured. If this team is less than 8-8 and Allen is not injured, either he was a bad pick, or they really are an incompetent coach/GM tandem.Their whole "process" is that they do not count on any one "superstar" other than the QB. It is a total team effort. If they are less than 8-8 and Allen is not injured, they really messed up, since it means a LOT of players are under-performing, not just one, and that means either bad coaching or poor player selection. No cap excuses this year. No excuses that you were saddled with someone else's bad contracts, or bad choices. It is all on McBeane to win or fail. Edited May 17, 2019 by simpleman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 7 hours ago, RiotAct said: yeahhhh I really don’t see us finishing with a worse record than last season. Easier schedule, improved O-Line and Wide Receiver corps, and Josh Allen in his second year getting rid of some of the growing pains should be good for at least two more wins. ...think someone here posted the 2020 mock positions were based on Vegas SB odds............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulful Soul Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Superhero said: https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/2020-NFL-mock-draft-CBS-Sports-132072836/#132072836_9 247 Sports / CBS sports have the Bills taking WR Jerry Juedy of Alabama with the 4th overall pick. So, after saying that the Bills had a good off season and a great draft, the "experts" are predicting the Bills to do WORSE than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 hours ago, VW82 said: If we're picking 4th overall next year then we're looking at QBs not WRs. And head coaches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 This projection could be wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Well, if we are going to stink that bad, at least Juedy would be a great consolation prize! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 zzzzzzz How do people get paid to do this stuff? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I am pleasantly surprised someone in the national media actually felt good enough about the Bills chances to have em picking 4th instead of 1st and believes in Allen enough not to give em a QB in 2020 draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Is this really worthy of a thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I'm guessing we'll be picking around 17-22. It all depends on Josh Allen at this point but I think we are good enough for 9 or 10 wins and a wildcard spot. I can hope, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Should I tear up my over 6.5 wins ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 We will be picking 32...not sure where they got 4th overall from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 11 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: I love the pick, just don't think he'll be there at 28 though. You mean 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 It's pretty incredible that anyone thinks that the Bills will be worse than last year. The schedule appears to be easier. The Bills have received a lot of national praise for their free agency AND draft. Both the offensive and defensive schemes are returning. No major changes in coaching or front office management. QB going into year two. There's just absolutely nothing about the Bills that would suggest anything but improvement and winning at least a couple more games. I have to believe that the people who do these mock drafts or projections just seriously know nothing about the team except that they are usually not great and won 6 games last year. I mean, the Bills have been middle of the road for years now. There's no reason to assume they'd fall on their face and be picking top 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I love how a team that picked ninth last year with a rookie QB and a record setting 55 plus million dollars tied behind its back in dead money and has done nothing but get better this off-season with very few player losses...is going to drop a couple of more games and jump five spots in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) BTW, someone please tell me what's more annoying: the Bills picking 4th or the Jets picking 18th (Vikes at 18 last year with an 8-7-1 record)? I guess the Jets have had a much better off season (going from 4-12 to likely 9-7 if you believe the above) than the Bills (6-10, likely on their way to 4-12) even though it seems the Bills have improved last year's team. And the team picking first is the Dolphins, so...I mean we beat them twice and go 2-12 against the rest of the NFL? Which is amazing when you consider that against the rest of the NFL (except the Pats) the last two years the Bills are 15-13, 12-12 without the Phins. ...oh, and 3-1 against the Jets current head coach the last two years. Edited May 17, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I think people are wayyyyy too optimistic about this year. Thinking that brand new rookie and free agent starters are the key to success is usually a fool's errand. That, in addition to the fact that Josh Allen could just as easily take a step back as he could forward, creates a real possibility this season could go very poorly. After all, its not unusual that 2nd year quarterbacks regress. I am glad we have upgrades all over the line, but those guys have never played in Daboll's system and have never played together. The OL group, more than most, rely heavily on communication and chemistry, something they don't have. I think they will pull it together, but I fully expect it to take a while, like half the season a while. The defense should be good again, even though we still do not have much of a pass rush aside from Jerry who is aging. Don't get me wrong, it could go really well. But its not out of the question this is a tough year for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I think people are wayyyyy too optimistic about this year. Thinking that brand new rookie and free agent starters are the key to success is usually a fool's errand. That, in addition to the fact that Josh Allen could just as easily take a step back as he could forward, creates a real possibility this season could go very poorly. After all, its not unusual that 2nd year quarterbacks regress. I am glad we have upgrades all over the line, but those guys have never played in Daboll's system and have never played together. The OL group, more than most, rely heavily on communication and chemistry, something they don't have. I think they will pull it together, but I fully expect it to take a while, like half the season a while. The defense should be good again, even though we still do not have much of a pass rush aside from Jerry who is aging. Don't get me wrong, it could go really well. But its not out of the question this is a tough year for them. JAHBH, all valid points and I have no problem considering them. However, even given what you've stated, the good and the bad, does that work out to 4-12 to you, a record the Bills have been at or lower than only two times in the last 32 seasons? To put it another way is it reasonable to assume (you, me, NFL talking heads) that this will end up being the the 3rd worst (or first or second) Bills team in the last 33 years? Edited May 17, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Now if CBS could give us some USEFUL news, such as the Powerball numbers for Saturday....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I think people are wayyyyy too optimistic about this year. Thinking that brand new rookie and free agent starters are the key to success is usually a fool's errand. That, in addition to the fact that Josh Allen could just as easily take a step back as he could forward, creates a real possibility this season could go very poorly. After all, its not unusual that 2nd year quarterbacks regress. I am glad we have upgrades all over the line, but those guys have never played in Daboll's system and have never played together. The OL group, more than most, rely heavily on communication and chemistry, something they don't have. I think they will pull it together, but I fully expect it to take a while, like half the season a while. The defense should be good again, even though we still do not have much of a pass rush aside from Jerry who is aging. Don't get me wrong, it could go really well. But its not out of the question this is a tough year for them. So, it could go either way? Edited May 17, 2019 by nucci 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Pretty hard to read on a crappy site. All it did was load ads and keep moving the list around. If the way the site was created is any indication of how they do work..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 13 hours ago, McBean said: Tua to the dolphins would be great. Most overrated player of all time in college football. Fromm is twice the QB. Other than Kyler Murray? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, nucci said: So, it could go either way? I mean, anything could happen. What I am saying is it not as obvious we will be that much better this year, as is implied by these responses. Do I think we will be the third worst team in the league this year? Thats a bit dramatic. But I do think we could be a 5-6 win team year. That is where my money is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I mean, anything could happen. What I am saying is it not as obvious we will be that much better this year, as is implied by these responses. Do I think we will be the third worst team in the league this year? Thats a bit dramatic. But I do think we could be a 5-6 win team year. That is where my money is. wouldn't a 5 win season put us right around 3rd worst team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalophil1948 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said: Now if CBS could give us some USEFUL news, such as the Powerball numbers for Saturday....... I wouldn't waste $2 on there numbers. They would still get them wrong on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, nucci said: wouldn't a 5 win season put us right around 3rd worst team? Jets had 4 wins this year, so its in the ballpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Ah yes.... I can sense the deep need to be loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Jets had 4 wins this year, so its in the ballpark. So you said you don't think we'll be the 3rd worst team but you could see a 5 win season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 As much as I disliked AZ's move from Rosen so early, mostly because I am not as high on Kyler in the NFL as others...what ever that is worth.... If the Bills somehow end up with the 4th pick, and keep moving in the wrong direction, somebody probably loses their job. That also probably means the Allen had a very bad year. I would take a QB there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, nucci said: So you said you don't think we'll be the 3rd worst team but you could see a 5 win season? I feel you like you are getting super distracted about a very minor portion of the point I was trying to make... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I feel you like you are getting super distracted about a very minor portion of the point I was trying to make... No, I just think you contradict yourself with every statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, nucci said: No, I just think you contradict yourself with every statement Like, even that isn't really responsive to what I just said. My point was I don't think this team is going to be good because of the rookies or free agents. If we are good, it will be because Josh Allen took a step forward and not a step back. However, it is equally likely he could go either way. For some reason you got super hung up on my saying I don't think they will be the third worst team in the league. To be honest, I threw it in as an aside. It really wasn't relevant to the point I was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ColoradoBills Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 15 hours ago, Superhero said: https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/2020-NFL-mock-draft-CBS-Sports-132072836/#132072836_9 247 Sports / CBS sports have the Bills taking WR Jerry Juedy of Alabama with the 4th overall pick. Is there somewhere I can go to bet the over on this? Does anyone think the author of this article Chance Linton would take the bet? Does anyone here want to take this bet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 No matter where we pick, I'd love to have Juedy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 Maybe they didn't realize that free agents are willing to sign in Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I'd like Delpit. But I doubt we trade up from 32 to grab him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 16 hours ago, McBean said: Tua to the dolphins would be great. Most overrated player of all time in college football. Fromm is twice the QB. Im glad I'm not the only one. I love Fromm, Id have taken him over Murray this year and Tua is insanely overrated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennjay Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Jets at 18, Browns at 27, Patriots at 32. Yeah, I'm going to take this guy's opinion seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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