DrDawkinstein Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, JustWinPlease said: The one thing that worries me is that the Panthers could never find Cam Newton any good WRs... I'm scared that Beane will struggle doing the same for Josh Allen. (I like the guys we have, but I just think they're all more like #3-#4 WRs.) Good observation and valid concern, for sure. Im more just bustin chops here. I understand we could definitely upgrade the WR position. With the Antonio Brown talk, I'm thinking Beane understands that as well. I'm hoping they arent done making moves there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpsuit Jim Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 We loaded the WR room with mediocrity over free agency so we wouldn’t have to reach for mediocrity in the draft. Somehow, that seems like a well thought out plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Good observation and valid concern, for sure. Im more just bustin chops here. I understand we could definitely upgrade the WR position. With the Antonio Brown talk, I'm thinking Beane understands that as well. I'm hoping they arent done making moves there. I think we have seen pretty clearly that Beane is always open to making moves but he's also not one to overpay just to fill a need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I AM MAD!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 minute ago, K-9 said: Are those tiki torches? Is PPP leaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) DK must have stole money from Brandon Beane Edited April 27, 2019 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I don't think any rookie WR from this class would have came in and unseated any of our starters, I think they're waiting for next years crop, the WR class is much better imo. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Why do we need a wide receiver? Hello? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 .. L Glad this thread was started, I'm actually happy we didn't add a WR .We have 4 WR (Beasley, Smokey Brown, Foster and Zay) who at least have proven they can make an impact in this league. I know ppl will trash Zay but he was the #1 WR many games , going against the best or 2nd best CB usually . He will now be matched up with much less talented CB. Entering year 3 , feel he has lots of potential and can make a jump. Don't forget about Andre Roberts who is mainly just a return man and possibly the best 1 in the game . That's 5 WR right there! They drafted Ray Ray last year , brought in McKenzie and Duke Williams and probably a couple UDFA to battle for 1 or 2 spots. Also add Kroft,Knox at TE and Yeldon who joins Shady as another great receiving RB. I don't understand why people are upset for not drafting a WR. We have the first 5 WR I mentioned that are locks to make the roster! It wasn't a need imo or at least not a big need at all. Like Beane said when asked about drafting Singletary over a WR , there was none rated higher, so he goes BPA , again , it's also not a need anyway! Plus revamping an atrocious OL is one of the best ways to improve the pass game. R-E-L-A-X 14 minutes ago, HOUSE said: DK must have stole money from Brandon Beane He was just EXTREMELY overrated by the armchair GMs on TV and social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 58 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: This just in... we have good receivers on the roster already! Sad that the board doesn't realize this. Thankfully Beane is our GM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, JustWinPlease said: The Cardinals drafted Isabella, Butler and Johnson to go with Murray. The Browns drafted Callaway and Ratley to go with Mayfield...not to mention trading for Landry and Beckham, so drafting a WR wouldn't be needed. The Jets didn't draft anybody because, well, they're the Jets. The Ravens drafted Brown and Boykin this year, and Scott and Lasley last year to go with Jackson. The Redskins drafted McLaurin and Harmon to go with Haskins. The Broncos drafted Sutton last year to go with Lock. Your point?!? We aquired two starting caliber WR in FA! Do ppl not listen to the front office philosophy? Beane has said multiple times that he addresses need in FA and goes BPA in the draft! There wasn't a WR who was BPA when we picked. Ppl are acting like WR is a major need and I just don't understand how most of you guys don't see that! Our starting WR week 1 compared to week 1 last year will be night and day, we vastly improved the position , not only from FA but by guys like Foster and Zay taking the next step , which will make them very dangerous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 For anyone saying we don't have any "star" WRs, only average guys: I'm not sure there was a star WR AVAILABLE in this draft. Certainly the fact that only one went in the 1st round is telling. Hollywood Brown maybe has star potential, but he would have been a redundant addition given that we already have Foster and Smokey Brown. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: There were several WRs I really wanted, some early and some later targets. That being said, I love our overall draft still. Look, you can’t upgrade every position in a draft. I love the Oliver and Ford picks even though I had really wanted one of Harry, Metcalf, or Deebo in first 2 rounds. And in the third I love both Singletary and Knox picks, two I guys I expected us to land anyway. So while I would have been thrilled to take Butler there, I was also thrilled to get those guys. Now some one of the late round targets are still available as UDFA...guys like Stanley Morgan Jr, David Sills V, Anthony Johnson and Emmanuel Hall. So hoping we add one more out of that group too. In in the end, I think what this said about Beane and McD is that they think a lot more of Duke than some people on this board. Why do I say that? Well Foster is still developing, Brown has had trouble staying healthy, Zay struggles catching, and Cole is more of a slot WR obviously. So the other 3 guys competing for outside time all have their own question marks. Will Brown stay healthy? Will Foster develop more of his game? Will Zay improve enough to even contend to start? So, while our WR room is better now, it’s still got questions. So I think they must feel pretty good about Duke to not look to add one more guy to the room and competing during the draft. I think this is the reason they shied away from WRs this year: https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/the-2020-wr-class-could-truly-be-historic Just now, Logic said: For anyone saying we don't have any "star" WRs, only average guys: I'm not sure there was a star WR AVAILABLE in this draft. Certainly the fact that only one went in the 1st round is telling. Hollywood Brown maybe has star potential, but he would have been a redundant addition given that we already have Foster and Smokey Brown. https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/the-2020-wr-class-could-truly-be-historic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Also...are the "Waaaahhh, we didn't get a WR!" people at all appeased by the two stellar UDFA adds the Bills made? Easley and Sills are legit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 They must have just plum forgot! Well season is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Cry about it here. Mods can we get this pinned? Oh, man....there's cryin' about this all over the board. Does the fact that we've signed 2 wideouts as UDFA (so far) help out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Logic said: For anyone saying we don't have any "star" WRs, only average guys: I'm not sure there was a star WR AVAILABLE in this draft. Certainly the fact that only one went in the 1st round is telling. Hollywood Brown maybe has star potential, but he would have been a redundant addition given that we already have Foster and Smokey Brown. Agreed. Very slim class at WR this year. It is still a need position for the Bills but I'm still glad they drafted the way they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Rampage said: Sad that the board doesn't realize this. Thankfully Beane is our GM. Thank you! At least there's some of you out there who realize that we have a legit WR corps who have different skill sets and alot to offer. Shady/Yeldon are elite receiving RB as well! We have plenty of legit options in the pass game And again , the major improvement of the OL is probably more important than any WR we brought in or could have brought in! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Good WR's were not exactly abundant in this draft. The Bills added two starting caliber WR's in FA and have a 3rd starter between Foster & Jones. The two UDFA WR's the Bills just signed are intriguing. I'm betting one of these guys not only makes the team but see's playing time at wide out. Throw in the CFL guy who may be a lot better then we think and the Bills are okay at WR. Frankly OL & TE were much higher priority's then WR and they seem to have fixed both those areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, man....there's cryin' about this all over the board. Does the fact that we've signed 2 wideouts as UDFA (so far) help out? and a legit TE and a runner with good hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Doesn’t the fact that the Bean didn’t just reach on a player because he felt he had to and possibly waste a draft mean it is a good thing? Funny thing is if we had the Patriots wideout core last year you would have thought it was the end of the world on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Thank you! At least there's some of you out there who realize that we have a legit WR corps who have different skill sets and alot to offer. Shady/Yeldon are elite receiving RB as well! We have plenty of legit options in the pass game And again , the major improvement of the OL is probably more important than any WR we brought in or could have brought in! Exactly, and in all honestly what are the odds of even taking a receiver in the 6th or 7th rounds and having them become an elite number one wideout? I'd rather they follow the board and go BPA which is what it looks like they did. This wasn't the best class for receivers either considering where all the "top guys" ended up going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Beane just said in the presser they had WRs they really liked and thought they could help this team and it was tough to not take them, but they stayed true to their board. Said it just didn’t fall that way. I would bet for sure he is at least referencing the Cody pick as he said they didn’t expect him to be there as was the BPA on their whole board at that point. I bet you if Cody was gone that would have been where they went WR as most were still on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 After the Bills didn’t draft one in Round 1 and 2, I stopped caring. Unless it’s a really good WR, it will be tough to crack the lineup or to get many reps on the field. In the case of Foster and Zay, you don’t quite know what you have in them as a WR. Brown and Beasley are good compliments. Then you have other players like Duke Williams. The position can always be improved, but I’m not so sure how much drafting a WR in the 3rd or 4th round really improves the unit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Good WR's were not exactly abundant in this draft. The Bills added two starting caliber WR's in FA and have a 3rd starter between Foster & Jones. The two UDFA WR's the Bills just signed are intriguing. I'm betting one of these guys not only makes the team but see's playing time at wide out. Throw in the CFL guy who may be a lot better then we think and the Bills are okay at WR. Frankly OL & TE were much higher priority's then WR and they seem to have fixed both those areas. Don't forget McKenzie and Ray Ray. McKenzie looked Dangerous everytime he touched the ball. Thanks for the post , I'm still just puzzled how so many fans can't see this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engelwood Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Coming from Canada I know what Duke can do and I was excited to both see him leave the CFL and him go to the Bills. He is the big, physical receiver many of you are complaining was not drafted and has a great catch radius. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 We did get a TE, which was a bigger need. Besides, the best value was in round and I'm very happy with Cody Ford. Mark my words. We are going to pound the rock with authority this year and that makes me very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Call me crazy but I like Sills alot. UDFA....but hes got a decent shot here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 would have liked to see them take Terry Godwin, WR from UGA, who was available when they took the TE from BC (Sweeney).......looks he was valued for ST ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Beane obviously doesnt know what he is doing, not drafting players that no one else drafted either! Next we don’t sign the UDFA no one else signs! This is inexcusable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 51 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Beane just said in the presser they had WRs they really liked and thought they could help this team and it was tough to not take them, but they stayed true to their board. Said it just didn’t fall that way. I would bet for sure he is at least referencing the Cody pick as he said they didn’t expect him to be there as was the BPA on their whole board at that point. I bet you if Cody was gone that would have been where they went WR as most were still on board. Makes sense. I bet the Pats snagging Harry at the end of the 1st threw a monkey wrench into the WR plan too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Beane is ignoring Josh Allen’s progression!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, GreggTX said: We did get a TE, which was a bigger need. Besides, the best value was in round and I'm very happy with Cody Ford. Mark my words. We are going to pound the rock with authority this year and that makes me very happy. You mean, even better than last year? I think I read Shady’s lips one time when they asked him to go in......it looked like he said “nah, I’m good here”. Interesting that most of the OL guys we signed are reported to be better at pass protection, but we could not possibly be worse in the run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 54 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Beane just said in the presser they had WRs they really liked and thought they could help this team and it was tough to not take them, but they stayed true to their board. Said it just didn’t fall that way. I would bet for sure he is at least referencing the Cody pick as he said they didn’t expect him to be there as was the BPA on their whole board at that point. I bet you if Cody was gone that would have been where they went WR as most were still on board. I bet we would’ve taken Risner. But we’ll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Lurker said: Foggie highlights (converted to OLB from WR...you don't see that very often!) For anyone who thinks Beane is asleep at the wheel, even the OLB we signed played WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Bills need a #1 WR, I don't think there was one of those in this draft so I'm fine with no WR. Any WR that came in here was battling for the 5th spot. The top 4 is set. What's the point of drafting a 5th WR early? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Makes sense. I bet the Pats snagging Harry at the end of the 1st threw a monkey wrench into the WR plan too. I honestly think it was going to be either Harry or Metcalf. Harry was gone by 40, who knows who had the higher grade on their board, Harry or Ford. I suspect the other was Metcalf, but obviously Ford was higher on his board and took him. The way Beane described the WRs it’s pretty clear it was probably those 2. He was talking about how there were guys with different make ups with big size and deep speed. Also Beane has really high remarks for Duke during the presser. 15 minutes ago, NewEra said: I bet we would’ve taken Risner. But we’ll never know. Beane didn’t sound like that was the case in the presser. Sounded like the alternative was a WR Edited April 28, 2019 by Alphadawg7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, man....there's cryin' about this all over the board. Does the fact that we've signed 2 wideouts as UDFA (so far) help out? I doubt it Hap...............maybe these will help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) Not a great WR class and things did not fall that way. Draft the best players that improve your team. Our top 4 of Brown, Beasley, Foster, and Jones look much better that last years contingent. We have a few more WRs coming to camp, plus the kid that returns kicks and 2 UDFAs. This group may may lack a star player but it’s far better than many of the groups we had. Edited April 28, 2019 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Cry about it here. Mods can we get this pinned? We did draft a TE not the one most of us wanted but he might still turnout to be a good one ? 21 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Not a great WR class and things did not fall that way. Draft the best players that improve your team. Our top 4 of Brown, Beasley, Foster, and Jones look much better that last years contingent. We have a few more WRs coming to camp, plays the kid that returns kicks, plus 2 UDFAs. This group may may lack a star player but it’s far better than many of the groups we had. I agree we do not have ( yet ) a legit # 1 wr but I also believe we have a much better bunch then we did last year , 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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