PUNT750 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) I apologize for the name spelling mistake! I was just so excited about this pick!!!! We can find a nice OT in Round #2. Is a 1st Round DT going to really make the D that much better in his rookie year? An Edge rusher is needed but there are plenty of steals in the 3rd and 4th Rounds for that specialty position. Newly signed TE Kroft has just 67 career receptions over 4 years. His Dead Cap for 2020 is a very manageable $1.6 mil. Jason Croom has just 22 career receptions and is being paid $500,000/season. He's an URFA next year. The BILLS need a great - not good - TIGHT END! GO BILLS!!! Edited April 25, 2019 by PUNT750 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 What the heck! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I’m all in on Hock at 9 !!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 YOUR logic and YOUR common sense. Doesn't necessarily align with anyone else's, especially Beane and McDermott's. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Convince me Hockenson is the next Kellen Winslow Sr. on the field and I am. all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Dude SPELL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 why punt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 No tight end taken top ten has ever lived up to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Madness Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Fix his name in your title, it look ridiculous. I wouldn't be upset with the pick, but there are other picks that make just as much sense. Edited April 25, 2019 by Westside Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Oh man. Don't let @Cornette's Commentary see this. He'll follow you around for weeks, repeating himself in a zombie-like stupor. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Well if @PUNT750 says so. ?♂️ Edited April 25, 2019 by Warcodered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 The best TEs are most commonly found in the middle of the draft. The best DT/OT/DE are most commonly found at the top of the draft - build either line with #9 and go for skill, skill, and more skill (TE, WR, RB, WR, etc) the rest of the way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, aristocrat said: No tight end taken top ten has ever lived up to it Cmon dude. Rickey Dudley was the shiznit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 if you're gonna point to 'logic & common sense' in your thread title, at least spell the subjects name correctly. Logic & common sense would dictate that you should 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, McGee Return TD said: The best TEs are most commonly found in the middle of the draft. The best DT/OT/DE are most commonly found at the top of the draft - build either line with #9 and go for skill, skill, and more skill (TE, WR, RB, WR, etc) the rest of the way. It just so happens the best tight ends this past decade (Kelce, Gronk, Ertz, Witten) were 2nd and 3rd rounders. It doesn't mean it's a lock that Hockenson or Fant will be disappointments. Tony Gonzalez was a top 10 pick and he turned out okay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: It just so happens the best tight ends this past decade (Kelce, Gronk, Ertz, Witten) were 2nd and 3rd rounders. It doesn't mean it's a lock that Hockenson or Fant will be disappointments. Tony Gonzalez was a top 10 pick and he turned out okay. True - Hock looks like he is going to be a great player, but personally I'd rather build up the trenches and go after a guy like Irv Smith or Sternburger from A&M in round 2. If they pick Hock at 9, though, I'll be happy - it's a great player at a need position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, PUNT750 said: We can find a nice OT in Round #2. Is a 1st Round DT going to really make the D that much better in his rookie year? An Edge rusher is needed but there are plenty of steals in the 3rd and 4th Rounds for that specialty position. Yes we can find a nice OT in round 2...maybe Is a DT really going to make the D that much better in his rookie year? YES he COULD if he is a good player. No guarantees. Ummmm...edge rusher steals in rounds 3 and 4? Who? Sure, we could find one there, but I don't find the edge rushers there guys I am that confident in. Quote Newly signed TE Kroft has just 67 career receptions over 4 years. His Dead Cap for 2020 is a very manageable $1.6 mil. Jason Croom has just 22 career receptions and is being paid $500,000/season. He's an URFA next year. Kroft stats is just you cherry picking to paint the story you want. It by no way reflects his effectiveness when he was given opportunities. Nothing more annoying than stat box analysts who dont actually know anything about the player. Kroft may or may not turn out to be a good starting TE. We wont know until he is on the field. I expect we will add a TE in the draft still. Its one of the deepest positions in the draft though and future starters can be had in rounds 2-4. Quote The BILLS need a great - not good - TIGHT END! GO BILLS!!! I like Hockenson a lot, but by no means do I feel our future is tied to whether or not we draft him. We do not "need" a "great" TE...it would be awesome to have, but its not like every SB team had a "great" TE. I do think its important we have a good starter there, but also feel there is quite a bit of value later in the draft and that Kroft is not as bad as you think. I am all for seeing Hockenson wear a Bills uniform, but I also think you are over exaggerating some things here and there is plenty of TE value to be found later if we go another direction in the first. Edited April 25, 2019 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 In a trade down please...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Cardinals are taking Heckenson?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 When did @Logicand @common sense or is it @common sence or @CommonCents say this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, aristocrat said: No tight end taken top ten has ever lived up to it Ebron and his 13 TDs last year when he was finally in a system that uses the TE says hi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Learn the guy’s name please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpsuit Jim Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, aristocrat said: No tight end taken top ten has ever lived up to it What do past drafts have to do with anything? If past drafts were the gold standard for player evaluation, teams would be clamoring to grab the next most successful quarterback of all time at pick number 199. Last year’s draft was last year. Past drafts are in the past. This year’s players are this year’s players. Edited April 25, 2019 by Jumpsuit Jim 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 36 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: Jason Croom has just 22 career receptions and is being paid $500,000/season. He's an URFA next year. Next year when Croom becomes an unrestricted restricted free agent we're going to be screwed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: Jason Croom has just 22 career receptions and is being paid $500,000/season. He's an URFA next year. Plus he's getting some premium Croom-tang.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 The Bills can draft a TE from anywhere in this draft and be fine. It's all in a matter if the coaching staff can develop a young TE, no matter where he is drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I'm on the Hock Train because you get a blocking stud on the O-line and someone who could very well put up WR 1 numbers, all in the same pick. That is what I call draft value. He is consistently rated higher than any WR in this draft for a reason. He is a consensus top ten draft pick in this draft for a reason. He is the #1 rated offensive skill player who is not a QB in this draft for a reason. I would love for Allen to have a true #1 receiving weapon and security blanket to throw to. I'd love to have Shady, Gore, and Yeldon running behind the left side of our line with Hock/Nsekhe/Spain/Morse blowing open huge holes for them. I'd love to add someone who can play like Gronk, Ertz, or Kittle on this offense, run by a guy like Daboll who coached Gronk for years, and knows how to scheme to maximize a TE's production.. For those who say that there is no guarantee Hock can play like Ertz or Gronk, you're absolutely right. By the same measure there is no way to guarantee that whoever we draft at 9 instead of Hock will be a stud either. It's all a crap shoot. My biggest worry about Hockenson is that he wont be there at #9 when it's our turn to select. It think there is only a 1 in 3 chance he is still on the board at #9. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNT750 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Plus he's getting some premium Croom-tang.... Don't tell Kim this!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Plus he's getting some premium Croom-tang.... Pegula-tang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 It’s just 24 hours away, people! This excruciating experience will come to an end! I trust the FO to get it right, and suspect they may make it exciting! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNT750 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Is that still going on? With the Pegula's daughter? I'm surprised that is common knowledge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 hour ago, PUNT750 said: I apologize for the name spelling mistake! I was just so excited about this pick!!!! We can find a nice OT in Round #2. Is a 1st Round DT going to really make the D that much better in his rookie year? An Edge rusher is needed but there are plenty of steals in the 3rd and 4th Rounds for that specialty position. Newly signed TE Kroft has just 67 career receptions over 4 years. His Dead Cap for 2020 is a very manageable $1.6 mil. Jason Croom has just 22 career receptions and is being paid $500,000/season. He's an URFA next year. The BILLS need a great - not good - TIGHT END! GO BILLS!!! i hope so but , the Bills history of TEs is pitiful, i think Jonah Williams is the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNT750 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Augie said: It’s just 24 hours away, people! This excruciating experience will come to an end! I trust the FO to get it right, and suspect they may make it exciting! I think this FO will do as you say!!! Maybe some big surprises??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Augie said: It’s just 24 hours away, people! This excruciating experience will come to an end! I trust the FO to get it right, and suspect they may make it exciting! Cant wait !! I even took today off of work because i couldn't stop thinking about the draft! 5 day weekend !!! 1 hour ago, njbuff said: Convince me Hockenson is the next Kellen Winslow Sr. on the field and I am. all in. He will be better , doesn't drop the ball and can block like a lineman. Edited April 25, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Cant wait !! I even took today off of work because i couldn't stop thinking about the draft! 5 day weekend !!! He will be better , doesn't drop the ball and can block like a lineman. He is going to be better than one of the best TE's EVER? Good luck with that one. And if the Bills draft him and you are right, you should get a job in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: He is going to be better than one of the best TE's EVER? Good luck with that one. And if the Bills draft him and you are right, you should get a job in the NFL. I should Edited April 25, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, Augie said: It’s just 24 hours away, people! This excruciating experience will come to an end! I trust the FO to get it right, and suspect they may make it exciting! Last year was way worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, PUNT750 said: Logic & Common Sense means Hockenson @ #1 That ain't logic or common sense. That's what a guy on the internet wants. Nothing wrong with wanting something. But believing your confirmation bias will destroy your logical thinking. Edited April 25, 2019 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, PUNT750 said: Is that still going on? With the Pegula's daughter? I'm surprised that is common knowledge! no one hides anything in this social media world we live in. https://sometag.org/media/2019782204644929391_2009907624/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: That ain't logic or common sense. That's what a guy on the internet wants. By that standard we're all in trouble Thurman. You have been a guy on the internet saying something at least 8,548 times. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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