\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/04/15/incendie-en-cours-dans-la-cathedrale-notre-dame-de-paris_5450533_3224.html Edited April 15, 2019 by \GoBillsInDallas/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Wow! OMFG wow! That’s pretty freakin’ tragic. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 The entire roof just collapsed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Holy Smoke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 looks like a total loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 While this is not something that makes the world go round, it is incredible piece of architecture and engineering for its time. I hope they can contain this. As an engineer I had to catch my breath to understand the magnitude of this building. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 when i read the headline i thought it was on the nd campus and thought, "good...***** em". now that i know that's not the case, i'm sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Wow, that looks devastating with the question now being can it be saved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: looks like a total loss. What a tough way to begin Holy Week.Let's be grateful that this tragic event didn't occur on Holy Thursday,Good Friday,Holy Saturday or,of course,Easter Sunday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 any claims on how it happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Sad ot see this historic building, known for great architecture and art burning. 31 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: looks like a total loss. the stone structure should be stable, hopefully they can rebuild the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Hopefully the flying buttresses keep it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Sad ot see this historic building, known for great architecture and art burning. the stone structure should be stable, hopefully they can rebuild the rest. I read somewhere that it was starting to crumble before this fire. here is some info on that. this fire certainly made the possibility of restoration near impossible? Crumbling Notre-Dame cathedral needs €100m from donors to 'avert collapse' Paris' Notre-Dame cathedral faces collapse unless donors stump up €100 million (£87 million) to conduct urgent repair work on its flying buttresses, spire, stained-glass windows, gargoyles and stonework, conservationists have warned. Victor Hugo, who helped save the cathedral almost two centuries ago with his novel The Hunchback of Notre-Dame, would be turning his grave if he could see the state of the cathedral today, they told the Telegraph. 12 minutes ago, row_33 said: any claims on how it happened? "Police in Paris say the cause of the massive fire enveloping the spire of Notre Dame Cathedral isn’t yet known." The Latest on a fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris (all times local): 7:55 p.m. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 The West has fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Pretty good run for any building not named the Great Pyramid of Giza or Hagia Sophia. Sad to see this happen, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, row_33 said: any claims on how it happened? Probably some candles tipped over. All those pews, wooden doors, and the wooden pipe organ fanned the flames in the large open nave of the Cathedral. Or some altar boys were playing with matches. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 47 minutes ago, teef said: when i read the headline i thought it was on the nd campus and thought, "good...***** em". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, The Senator said: Or some altar boys were playing with matches. . They call them matches? Weak code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Wow - this is terrible. The beauty of this place is hard to express. I was there about 15 years ago and had the opportunity to sit inside and listen to a concert played on the pipe organ - something that is only played a few times a year - it was fantastic hearing those acoustics and looking at the stained glass....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 What a horrible loss......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just awful to see. I dont think it can be saved by the looks of it. From what I'm reading they are trying to save the art now more than anything Just a huge cultural loss. I went to some churches in Croatia during my honeymoon and the art and care that went into these buildings is incredible. Notre Dame was on my list of places to see and it looks as though that will not happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 This building is in a densely built area (like what area in Paris or any major city in the world isn't). From current video images it looks like the two columns / towers on the west side of the building, which is the primary entrance, is still standing as is the eastern end which has the flying buttresses. The southern end of the transcept appears to still be up as well. I wouldnt doubt that the cause is a result of some of the restoration work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 This building survived hundreds of years of French upheaval, revolutions and riots but couldn't survive Pierre and his ill placed welding torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, row_33 said: any claims on how it happened? Construction on the Spire supposedly started the fire. We were just there two weeks ago, and this was a picture of the Spire where it started. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBud said: This building is in a densely built area (like what area in Paris or any major city in the world isn't). From current video images it looks like the two columns / towers on the west side of the building, which is the primary entrance, is still standing as is the eastern end which has the flying buttresses. The southern end of the transcept appears to still be up as well. I wouldnt doubt that the cause is a result of some of the restoration work. I'm sure it was. Just terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) Things weren't meant to last forever. Edited April 15, 2019 by Boca BIlls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, BuffaloBud said: This building is in a densely built area (like what area in Paris or any major city in the world isn't). From current video images it looks like the two columns / towers on the west side of the building, which is the primary entrance, is still standing as is the eastern end which has the flying buttresses. The southern end of the transcept appears to still be up as well. I wouldnt doubt that the cause is a result of some of the restoration work. THAT is one VERY bad day at work! ”So, how was your day?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I'm still holding out hope that the 2 towers will stay standing, at least giving something that could be used as a starting point for rebuilding. But everything I'm hearing on BBC and other news reports is that they are still very much in jeopardy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 52 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Pretty good run for any building not named the Great Pyramid of Giza or Hagia Sophia. Sad to see this happen, though. Pretty much my feelings...if you want it to last forever sans major earthquake/war, build it out of stone. Once you start introducing wood, glass, plaster etc, yeah it's pretty but you're building in a shelf life too. Just now, coloradobillsfan said: I'm still holding out hope that the 2 towers will stay standing, at least giving something that could be used as a starting point for rebuilding. But everything I'm hearing on BBC and other news reports is that they are still very much in jeopardy. Some report mentioned they were lacking funds for the restoration...anyone happen to know how much fire insurance they had on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Things weren't meant to last forever. but money was and it's laughing all the way to the bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said: Wow, that looks devastating with the question now being can it be saved? i have to imagine they'll salvage any stone they can and build up around it as others have mentioned. we were in venice a few years ago, and there's a famous opera house that caught on fire, burned down, and apparently took a large part of the neighborhood with it. it was being worked on by contractors at the time. as the story goes, in italy, (not sure if this applies to europe or how this works) if a contractor is not on schedule, they'll be penalized for being late. apparently to avoid this from happening, one of the workers set a small fire to back up the schedule and avoid that penalty. well...it raged out of control, and did more damage than anyone could have realized. they'll rebuild, but i can't imagine how much history is lost there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Augie said: ”So, how was your day?” It was fine. Had a decent breakfast, beat the traffic, so was at work on time. Took a nice mid-morning dump in the confessional. Had some wine and cheese for lunch. Got some work accomplished by mid afternoon. Accidentally burned down 900 years of history, culture, and art. Made it home in time to have supper with the wife. How was yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, Augie said: THAT is one VERY bad day at work! We need to pray for those workers,I would assume they will be traveling down a very tough road for a very long time mentally,maybe until he/they meet Saints Peter and Paul? I believe today's sad event is a way of Christ telling us ,no person,Christian or not... doesn't have faults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I’ve seen and visited the cathedral a number of times. It’s kind of sad what’s happened to it. The state law in France doesn’t allow them to charge for entrance to the cathedral so restoration has been difficult because it’s been difficult to raise funds. They had finally raised money to start after a public outcry and now this. All that’s left of the interior is pictures now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, BuffaloBud said: This building is in a densely built area (like what area in Paris or any major city in the world isn't). It's on it's own island. It isn't peculiarly dense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Things weren't meant to last forever. I know. I just wish I had seen the Pyramids before they burned down. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: I’ve seen and visited the cathedral a number of times. It’s kind of sad what’s happened to it. The state law in France doesn’t allow them to charge for entrance to the cathedral so restoration has been difficult because it’s been difficult to raise funds. They had finally raised money to start after a public outcry and now this. All that’s left of the interior is pictures now... it really is sad. i heard choir practice there years ago, and what an opportunity. this fire will just become part of the legacy of the structure. even the sistine chapel has a bare spot from where the paint collapsed during its restoration. can you imagine being the artist that caused that *****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just came to "Off the Wall" and saw the headline of this thread, so I opened it up. Saw the photograph and literally said out loud "OH MY GOD!" despite sitting alone right now. I have the TV on now but know nothing about this story. But this is an epic tragedy. And now the headline on TV is "FRENCH GOVT: FIREFIGHTERS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SAVE NOTRE DAME" FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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