Dopey Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Living in Tallahassee, I've seen quite a bit of Burns. I like him, but I think White is a much better prospect at the NFL level. If we picked 15th, I would take him. Now if Beane and Mcd. like him enough, you don't trade down 6 spot and hope he's there. Not for 6 spots. Take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 BPA is White. Our LB corp is now set for years. trade back into first or use second on Collier (Edge) from TCU, and draft DL Wise from Kansas later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) Either Wilkins or Murphy. Edited April 6, 2019 by Clyde Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Reks Ryan said: If the Bills stick with the BPA mantra that has been their company line, then it's Devin White. And if he is there @ 9 he is who I would take. In that scenario move Edmunds outside. BAA maybe, but not BPA. I understand the hype over the 40 time, but watch him against Georgia and he wasn't the best player on the field, much less the BPA at no. 9 in the draft. Lots of missed tackles, bad angles, whiffs on tackles and failure to make the plays that a LB with a 4.4 40 should be making. Yeah, he jumped on the pile a few times down the field, he got in the backfield on a blitz when he had a wide open lane, but more often, OL were overwhelming him Qb's and RB's were dodging him, etc. With his speed, he's really the type of guy you expect to be an "all over the field" player..who flies noticeably to the ball and drops the guy when he gets there. Maybe others are right, that McD can work some magic, but he's got a long way to go. If you're looking for a short but athletic LB who really is all over the field, I'd just as soon wait a few rounds and take Burr Kirven out of Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 What's a hypothetical mock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 53 minutes ago, CookieG said: BAA maybe, but not BPA. I understand the hype over the 40 time, but watch him against Georgia and he wasn't the best player on the field, much less the BPA at no. 9 in the draft. Lots of missed tackles, bad angles, whiffs on tackles and failure to make the plays that a LB with a 4.4 40 should be making. Yeah, he jumped on the pile a few times down the field, he got in the backfield on a blitz when he had a wide open lane, but more often, OL were overwhelming him Qb's and RB's were dodging him, etc. With his speed, he's really the type of guy you expect to be an "all over the field" player..who flies noticeably to the ball and drops the guy when he gets there. Maybe others are right, that McD can work some magic, but he's got a long way to go. If you're looking for a short but athletic LB who really is all over the field, I'd just as soon wait a few rounds and take Burr Kirven out of Washington. Not saying you're wrong but you're talking about 1 game against a legit National Championship contender. Not sure many of the guys we're talking about in the top-10 wouldve looked good against UGA, outside of the Bama or Clemson players, and they even gave Bama a run for their money. Not sure a tape of Kirven against UGA would look good either. Jus sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 I've seen games were most of these top prospects were dominated. GMs have to be able to project 2-3 yrs from now on these kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I think they should move up in the draft to get the other Josh Allen. He can be just as versatile as Zo, and played a lot of coverage in 2018. The bills give up this year's 1st, and third. And a second and 4th in 2020. Imagine what that linebacker group would look like. McDermott had a couple of linebackers like that in Carolina. It's one of the reasons they made it to the superbowl. They traded up last year so why couldn't we do it again. Besides with the salary cap going up quite a bit in 2020, and Beane's wise spending this off season. They could easily fill in any more holes in next year's free agent period. On offense you've got rb Melvin Gordon, we Micheal Thomas, OL sherff and thuney both of which would be in there prime. DE Yannick Ngakoue and Vic Beasley, DT Michael Brockers and Leonard Williams, CB Xavien Howard. With good options at safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 27 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Not saying you're wrong but you're talking about 1 game against a legit National Championship contender. Not sure many of the guys we're talking about in the top-10 wouldve looked good against UGA, outside of the Bama or Clemson players, and they even gave Bama a run for their money. Not sure a tape of Kirven against UGA would look good either. Jus sayin. Maybe he did better against Alabama... Or Maybe not. He's going to be facing SEC quality OL and RB's every week on Sunday's. Well, better quality. As far as the comparison with Burr Kirvern, the big difference is that I'd be talking about taking him in rounds 5-7. Not at number 9. People keep talking about making sure you get this sure fire difference maker at 9. Well, after watching the games against Georgia, Bama, Auburn and Ole Miss, he's neither sure fire, nor a difference maker. Maybe he was better against teams like Louisiana Tech, idk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 hour ago, CookieG said: BAA maybe, but not BPA. I understand the hype over the 40 time, but watch him against Georgia and he wasn't the best player on the field, much less the BPA at no. 9 in the draft. Lots of missed tackles, bad angles, whiffs on tackles and failure to make the plays that a LB with a 4.4 40 should be making. Yeah, he jumped on the pile a few times down the field, he got in the backfield on a blitz when he had a wide open lane, but more often, OL were overwhelming him Qb's and RB's were dodging him, etc. With his speed, he's really the type of guy you expect to be an "all over the field" player..who flies noticeably to the ball and drops the guy when he gets there. Maybe others are right, that McD can work some magic, but he's got a long way to go. If you're looking for a short but athletic LB who really is all over the field, I'd just as soon wait a few rounds and take Burr Kirven out of Washington. Not his best game. He definitely struggled taking on blocks on the runs up the middle. He did play his assignments and overall LSU held down a very talented UGA team. He was fast and aggressive to the ball on blitzes and outside runs even with some missed tackles, White disrupted plays. Also good in coverage. Based on picks of Allen and Edmunds last year, The current Bills front office seems to value high end athletic talent in 1st round. Edmunds had trouble with reads last year and lacks some instincts as an ILB, but he improved though his rookie year. White has incredible athleticism and runs hard to the ball. Personally, I think he will be gone before 9. If the board falls the way the OP has it, White should be in strong consideration. Who would be your pick at 9? By the way, the video you posted featuring every play with White highlighted was pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalophil1948 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Fixxxer said: According to draft sites the BPA pick should be Devin White. I would draft Wilkins or Burns. I can see Beane trying to trade back in this scenario. I agree but would be a little disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 10 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: i heard that and commented on it. that is absolute b.s. and i will be the first to implode....for a couple of reasons... 1. we have the best backfield we've had since the 90's 2. give any qb time, they'll find an open guy. how many times do we see a qb have time to tie his shoes or send a text then complete a pass? i don't care how good the corners are. if there's no pressure, sooner or later the wrs break open. I see that point, but he was also pointing out a pass rush is less effective than good coverage when a QB is getting the ball out on time in 2 seconds. And with zone coverage, DBs aren’t trying to run with receivers, as long as they maintain positions, they can cover better and longer than in man situations. Im not saying don’t draft a pass rusher over a CB, I’m saying select the best CB over the 7th best D-lineman because it may be that’ll be your BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 15 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: 1. ARZ- QB Murray 2. 49ers- DE Bosa 3. Jets- DE Allen 4. OAK - Q WILLIAMS 5. Bucs- DT Ed Oliver 6. Giants - DE Gary 7. Jags- OT Taylor 8. Det- DE Sweat 9. Bills ? The top 6 Dlineman are off the board in this scenario . Who will the Bills select . Here's some options . Wr- DK Metcalf TE- TJ Hock OT - Jonah Williams DE- Brian Burns DT- Christian Wilkins LB- Devin White CB- Byron Murphy I will take Hock myself but I believe the Bills would lean towards Burns. I know probably 80% would say trade back but let's just say there's no trade available. If I left out any other candidates please give me your opinions and why. Trade Back. Someone in this scenario is coming up for Haskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 If Byron Murphy is still hanging around in the 20s I could see a trade up. He might be the best defensive scheme fit for McDermott in the entire draft. People would probably be upset, but Murphy can play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: If Byron Murphy is still hanging around in the 20s I could see a trade up. He might be the best defensive scheme fit for McDermott in the entire draft. People would probably be upset, but Murphy can play. Just in general, I'd bet there's at least a reasonable chance the Bills could take a defensive back in rounds 2 or 3. If so, expect an epic meltdown on this forum and Twitter and such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: What's a hypothetical mock? I think it's like a mock mock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 17 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: 1. ARZ- QB Murray 2. 49ers- DE Bosa 3. Jets- DE Allen 4. OAK - Q WILLIAMS 5. Bucs- DT Ed Oliver 6. Giants - DE Gary 7. Jags- OT Taylor 8. Det- DE Sweat 9. Bills ? The top 6 Dlineman are off the board in this scenario . Who will the Bills select . Here's some options . Wr- DK Metcalf TE- TJ Hock OT - Jonah Williams DE- Brian Burns DT- Christian Wilkins LB- Devin White CB- Byron Murphy I will take Hock myself but I believe the Bills would lean towards Burns. I know probably 80% would say trade back but let's just say there's no trade available. If I left out any other candidates please give me your opinions and why. Devin White and it's not even close, He's the 4th best player in this Draft class imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I'd run up with that DK card...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I'm probably taking Andre Dillard, my favorite LT prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Hockenson, but after a trade up for Bosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Logic said: Just in general, I'd bet there's at least a reasonable chance the Bills could take a defensive back in rounds 2 or 3. If so, expect an epic meltdown on this forum and Twitter and such. Considering we're setup to go BPA at #9, there's a decent chance we get one there. If that happens, get your popcorn ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Devon White all day long 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Metcalf or White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 TJ Hockenson. I used to think we had to trade down to justify drafting him. Not any longer. If Oliver is gone then it's gotta be him. Then turn around and get Tillery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Considering we're setup to go BPA at #9, there's a decent chance we get one there. If that happens, get your popcorn ready. Their mock is kind of a mess, but PFF has been mocking Byron Murphy to he Bills at 9 for awhile because of the fit. He's got McDermott corner written all over him. I honestly would not mind it in a trade down, 9 seems a bit rich. But this dude can ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 22 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: 1. ARZ- QB Murray 2. 49ers- DE Bosa 3. Jets- DE Allen 4. OAK - Q WILLIAMS 5. Bucs- DT Ed Oliver 6. Giants - DE Gary 7. Jags- OT Taylor 8. Det- DE Sweat 9. Bills ? The top 6 Dlineman are off the board in this scenario . Who will the Bills select . Here's some options . Wr- DK Metcalf TE- TJ Hock OT - Jonah Williams DE- Brian Burns DT- Christian Wilkins LB- Devin White CB- Byron Murphy I will take Hock myself but I believe the Bills would lean towards Burns. I know probably 80% would say trade back but let's just say there's no trade available. If I left out any other candidates please give me your opinions and why. Got to go with Metcalf. Kid is a freak and based on last years draft Beane likes him some super athletes. Ik some are freaking about combine stats but i was a big fan of his before i knew about his workouts. You could see he was a star in the making at Ole Miss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Got to go with Metcalf. Kid is a freak and based on last years draft Beane likes him some super athletes. Ik some are freaking about combine stats but i was a big fan of his before i knew about his workouts. You could see he was a star in the making at Ole Miss. Definitely have to do our homework on Metcalf he's super talented. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Gotta go with the weakest position on the team and the kid who could have the greatest impact. The TE from Iowa TJ Hockenson who can both catch and block. When was the last time the Buffalo Bills had a player like this...like never? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 TJ Hockenson or DK Metcalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/6/2019 at 7:22 AM, BigdaddyinOrlando said: Not the biggest need but I’m taking Devin White 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) I think Burns is to "Maybinish" for my liking... too small right now... I'm going with DT Christian Wilkins at #9 to give Bills some inside pass rush, its whats needed to beat Brady... Then I go #40 - WR N.K. Harry, move back into 2nd round and take DE Jaylon Furguson... but if Burns can add 30#'s of muscle then go Burns at #9, WR N.K. Harry at #40 and then maybe DT Khalen Saunders in the 3rd and TE Kahale Warring in the 4th with RB Rodney Anderson also Edited April 7, 2019 by Tsaikotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I am torn between Jonah Williams and Brian Burns. I would be extremely happy with either pick but Williams will be keeping our hopefully franchise QB after this season upright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Tsaikotic said: I think Burns is to "Maybinish" for my liking... too small right now... I'm going with DT Christian Wilkins at #9 to give Bills some inside pass rush, its whats needed to beat Brady... Then I go #40 - WR N.K. Harry, move back into 2nd round and take DE Jaylon Furguson... but if Burns can add 30#'s of muscle then go Burns at #9, WR N.K. Harry at #40 and then maybe DT Khalen Saunders in the 3rd and TE Kahale Warring in the 4th with RB Rodney Anderson also What if we were to use Burns to replace LorAx at OLB as the 5th guy on the line, and not a DE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 13 hours ago, Nihilarian said: Gotta go with the weakest position on the team and the kid who could have the greatest impact. The TE from Iowa TJ Hockenson who can both catch and block. When was the last time the Buffalo Bills had a player like this...like never? Damn! That's impressive as hell. You hear a TE is a good blocker and you're like ,yeah cool, but you dont expect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nihilarian Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Damn! That's impressive as hell. You hear a TE is a good blocker and you're like ,yeah cool, but you dont expect that. 3 I thought so too. Now for the catch highlights! The kid dropped one pass in 51 targets... Potential generational talent! Edited April 7, 2019 by Nihilarian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 14 hours ago, Nihilarian said: Gotta go with the weakest position on the team and the kid who could have the greatest impact. The TE from Iowa TJ Hockenson who can both catch and block. When was the last time the Buffalo Bills had a player like this...like never? Irv Smith is not so bad either!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nihilarian said: I thought so too. Now for the catch highlights! The kid dropped one pass in 51 targets... Potential generational talent! Wow that that was crazy! Just imagine a Bills TE that can make TOUGH catches, i must be hallucinating. I saw the bible verse at the end, not sure if thats Hockenson feeling or the poster but if he is McDermott is going to love that. Guess he could be generational. I will puke if he goes to the Pats. Edited April 8, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Woof. Tough one. I continue to fight the Hock desire. Too high for a TE. BUT I KEEP coming back to him. He like adding both an OL and TE - he should improve our entire offence if he can make the leap. Mad blocker and solid hands who can high point the ball. What more do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 On 4/6/2019 at 6:11 AM, ALF said: I'll go with Jawaan Taylor RT who could sit and learn behind Nsekhe his 1st year. Got news for ya.. If we got Jawaan Taylor, he would likely start LT and push Dawkins to LG. https://arrowheadaddict.com/2019/04/07/2019-nfl-mock-draft-bengals-giants-trades-drew-lock-chiefs-safety/ Jawaan Taylor Offensive Tackle Florida 9. Buffalo Bills The Bills had a solid defense in 2018, and while they could look to add more firepower to that side of the football, I think it is likely that they add the best offensive tackle in the draft class, Jawaan Taylor. The addition of Taylor may force Dion Dawkins inside to guard, but it would set Buffalo’s offensive line up for success for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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