Da webster guy Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 By now we've seen a ton of mock drafts, each one of them different from the next one. Just to remind you that nobody has ANY clue, Google up yourself some 2018 NFL.mocks and get ready to laugh at how hopelessly wrong they all are. Not only will it show you how the draft experts are completely in the dark on this whole thing, it also gives a glimpse into how incredibly different the NFL would look if some of these guys were right. ( ie.Josh Allen and Chubb to Browns and we take Rosen and VanDerEsch) With the exception of Saquon to the Gmen, most of them have zero correct picks. Zero. And we think weathermen are wrong a lot..... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Doesn't mock mean to make fun of anyway? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, HuSeYiN_NYC said: Doesn't mock mean to make fun of anyway? As a verb, yes it does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I'm far less interested in guessing where players could be selected than I am in how players were (and are) ranked. Much more concerned about which players are correctly evaluated rather than which team they'll end up. "This guy is going to be great/awful" is a much stronger indication of draft prowess than guessing where they will play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 ?♂️ I had 4 exactly right and 11 teams with the correct position, but wrong player. My best year, by far, was 2015. I got 10 perfect player-team pairings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000928583/article/mike-mayocks-2018-nfl-mock-draft-bills-trade-up-for-josh-allen Mayock’s was pretty damn close across the board. Might not always get the team right but but he was super accurate in the range the player went. Ward was the curveball last year in the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, Gugny said: As a verb, yes it does. This is no place for your fancy science words 8 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: ?♂️ I had 4 exactly right and 11 teams with the correct position, but wrong player. My best year, by far, was 2015. I got 10 perfect player-team pairings. Youre due 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000928661/article/jeremiah-mock-draft-40-browns-pick-baker-mayfield-no-1?akmobile=ios&akcarrier=verizon jeremiah was pretty accurate at the top of the round too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 46 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: By now we've seen a ton of mock drafts, each one of them different from the next one. Just to remind you that nobody has ANY clue, Google up yourself some 2018 NFL.mocks and get ready to laugh at how hopelessly wrong they all are. Not only will it show you how the draft experts are completely in the dark on this whole thing, it also gives a glimpse into how incredibly different the NFL would look if some of these guys were right. ( ie.Josh Allen and Chubb to Browns and we take Rosen and VanDerEsch) With the exception of Saquon to the Gmen, most of them have zero correct picks. Zero. And we think weathermen are wrong a lot..... In fairness if they had us taking Rosen and VDE they got both positional picks right. Nailing exact matches as a mocker is hard, because you don't know every team's board. Getting the right position is a decent effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: ?♂️ I had 4 exactly right and 11 teams with the correct position, but wrong player. My best year, by far, was 2015. I got 10 perfect player-team pairings. I had 6 exactly right and 1 (Josh Allen) where I had him going to the Bills but had us trading up to 10 to get him rather than 7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: In fairness if they had us taking Rosen and VDE they got both positional picks right. Nailing exact matches as a mocker is hard, because you don't know every team's board. Getting the right position is a decent effort. And yet still a senseless waste of time. I will never understand the "mock draft" phenomenon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, eball said: And yet still a senseless waste of time. I will never understand the "mock draft" phenomenon. It's because fans are obsessed with learning about who their team might end up with and aren't patient enough to just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Just now, DCOrange said: I had 6 exactly right and 1 (Josh Allen) where I had him going to the Bills but had us trading up to 10 to get him rather than 7. I only had 2 exact matches last year - Barkley (which was the gimme) and LVDE. I also had two player and team matches that I mocked for round 1 and happened in later rounds and 9 right position wrong player. My best was 7 exact matches and 11 positional matches in 2015. My 2018 mock was below my usual standard. My average is 4/5 exact matches. 2 minutes ago, eball said: And yet still a senseless waste of time. I will never understand the "mock draft" phenomenon. I enjoy it. It's a bit of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 How many trades were there in the first round last year on draft day..? From memory it was about 7 or so.. No one obviously is going to be able to predict where these end up, but I still find mock drafts handy to give some idea about players who are expected to go in the early rounds.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I saw a lot of mocks that had the Bills getting Josh Allen last year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) I lost my house and all my belongings betting on those mocks I now live in my car Edited April 4, 2019 by HOUSE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I lost my house and all my belongings betting on those mocks I now live in my car Perhaps a name change is needed? 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000928583/article/mike-mayocks-2018-nfl-mock-draft-bills-trade-up-for-josh-allen Mayock’s was pretty damn close across the board. Might not always get the team right but but he was super accurate in the range the player went. Ward was the curveball last year in the top 5. his write up is foreshadowing... Dude is 6-foot-5, 237 pounds. He's the same size as Carson Wentz with bigger arm talent and he's a better athlete. Out of maybe any player in this draft, his upside might be the highest. I don't think he's ready Day 1, but if he can get over some hurdles, he's going to be special. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Da webster guy said: With the exception of Saquon to the Gmen, most of them have zero correct picks. Zero. And we think weathermen are wrong a lot..... This is why I no longer spend much time on pre-draft media coverage. It's just bird cage filler... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000928583/article/mike-mayocks-2018-nfl-mock-draft-bills-trade-up-for-josh-allen Mayock’s was pretty damn close across the board. Might not always get the team right but but he was super accurate in the range the player went. Ward was the curveball last year in the top 5. Mayock even used the term HURDLE in describing Allen. Does he see the future, I mean the Barr hurdle was incredible. I'd love to see Mayock's mock this year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, qwksilver said: Mayock even used the term HURDLE in describing Allen. Does he see the future, I mean the Barr hurdle was incredible. I'd love to see Mayock's mock this year! Lol me too, but i dont think he will be releasing one this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 For a good laugh, I’ll look at any mock. From any year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Lol me too, but i dont think he will be releasing one this year He just won't have the Raiders on this one! But, I've like listening to him over most of those idiots, especially Kiper. That fool is always wrong!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I said all along dating back to the second that McDermott took the HC job in 2017.............. that Josh Allen was his guy at QB. Other than that, just about everything I predicted for the 2018 draft was way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 But, But, But, the experts said it would happen so it must have been true ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 On 4/3/2019 at 9:05 AM, HOUSE said: I lost my house and all my belongings betting on those mocks I now live in my car You look very comfortable. I am envious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Mayock and Jeremiah are the best in the biz, IMO. There’s also that guy, Nolan Nawrocki (sp?), that is pretty darn good. It’s all just for fun anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 On 4/3/2019 at 8:54 AM, eball said: And yet still a senseless waste of time. I will never understand the "mock draft" phenomenon. The offseason cant be only "Draft Strategy" threads ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I view them as an opportunity to learn about players I didn’t know much about...nothing more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, TroutDog said: I view them as an opportunity to learn about players I didn’t know much about...nothing more. Yep, agreed. That and the fact I dont follow every team so I dont know what their needs are. Mocks help me understand what positions other teams might be going for, and who the Bills may be in competition with in order to get our guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) I think this year I will pick on of the mocks (Kiper?) and compare to @Virgil TSW draft. See which is more accurate. I suspect TSW will be competitive. Give points for: 5 points: player/slot/team 3 points: player/slot 1 point: player/round. Edited April 4, 2019 by Just Joshin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 On 4/3/2019 at 9:05 AM, buffalobillswin said: I saw a lot of mocks that had the Bills getting Josh Allen last year A couple of months ago when there was no football stuff happening I looked back at the final 2018 mock drafts & a very high % of the top guys had the Bills trading into the top 10 for Allen. What that told me was the word was out that the Bills were going after Allen and they still were able to trade up & get him. Some guys, like Kiper, do mock drafts based on who they think is the best player at the position & assign him to the team in need of that position. Other guys actually try to predict what will happen, rather than apply their biases like Kiper (who BTW thought Allen was the best QB & mock drafted him to Cleveland), and end up getting things right sometimes. Going over all the mocks, the guys actually trying to predict the draft were saying the Bills were going to do whatever it took to get Allen if he fell out of the top 3. They were also smart enough to know neither Cleveland, NYG or NYJ were taking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: He just won't have the Raiders on this one! But, I've like listening to him over most of those idiots, especially Kiper. That fool is always wrong!!! Kiper is an entertainer. I like him. I know many don't. Yes he is wrong in the mock predictions just like anyone else, but you must consider it is a fluid thing and he does multiple mocks as the draft nears. Basing his mocks on information available at time of any mock. That is then all out the window as the draft begins and shapes. Kiper then predicts who will be going on actual events. I like his genuine excitement and his crazy loud speak at the draft. Especially when he disagrees with other commentators and they have a little spat. Funny guy. Edited April 4, 2019 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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