Reed83HOF Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) Posted in here instead of OTW, since well Sabres Fans = Bills fans (mostly) https://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/robin-lehner-isles-buffalo-toronto-1.29125786 “It’s a different feeling this year in general,” Lehner added. “We’re having fun. It’s a positive atmosphere. It’s not surrounded by negativity. That was one of the hard things when I was in Buffalo, just this cloud and atmosphere of negativity.” And he had no qualms about coming into the New York media market, which not every athlete can handle. “No, Buffalo prepared me,” Lehner said. “It couldn’t be any worse. Buffalo would prepare me to go to Toronto. It was so bad there sometimes. You would walk out to games and the game hadn’t started and people are already booing. It’s an incredibly passionate fan base and they’re filling that building but it can be miserable in that rink. “Everyone talks the Toronto media and Toronto is the toughest city in the league to play in, don’t get me wrong,” added Lehner, clarifying he wants to see his former teammates do well. “But Buffalo is not easy to play in. The media is incredibly hard. I’ve been in that negative spiral. I’ve been caught in it for a couple of years. It’s really tough and you start to lose perspective. I’ve moved on. I don’t care what anyone in Buffalo says anymore.” Edited March 29, 2019 by Reed83HOF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 waaaaaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 He's right, but the negativity is a natural reaction to decades of poor management and bottom feeding teams. I actually feel like we kept it together better than most fan based would have for what we have endured as sports fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 See, here's the thing. Stop the puck. It makes people happier. 8 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Poor Robin. He probably doesn’t realize that most of those boos were from opposing team fans who pack the building on a lot of game nights. Also may have helped if he could have stop a shootout attempt from time to time when he was here. As to the rest of it, he sounds like an ungrateful prick after all the support the Sabres organization gave to him while he was struggling with alcohol, etc. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Posted in here instead of OTW, since well Sabres Fans = Bills fans (mostly) “Everyone talks the Toronto media and Toronto is the toughest city in the league to play in, don’t get me wrong,” added Lehner, clarifying he wants to see his former teammates do well. “But Buffalo is not easy to play in. The media is incredibly hard. I’ve been in that negative spiral. I’ve been caught in it for a couple of years. It’s really tough and you start to lose perspective. I’ve moved on. I don’t care what anyone in Buffalo says anymore.” Two of the douches leave Buffalo News and media negative spiral reduces. Coincidence? Yes I know their fanboys kneeling at their feet still exist but just like for UpChuck DICKerson they tend to go elsewhere when there is not a leader to rally around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: “But Buffalo is not easy to play in. The media is incredibly hard. I’ve been in that negative spiral. I’ve been caught in it for a couple of years. It’s really tough and you start to lose perspective. I’ve moved on. I don’t care what anyone in Buffalo says anymore.” Apparently not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 What a puss. Grow a pair and stop the damn puck you loser! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Maybe Robin hasn't dealt with all his demons as been reported, because what he's saying here is cra cra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 He's 27-years-old. That explains it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I mean he does have a point. The media in Buffalo is probably more critical than NYC or most hockey markets because people actually care here. Does NYC have drive time sports shows that even talk about hockey? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I mean he does have a point. The media in Buffalo is probably more critical than NYC or most hockey markets because people actually care here. Does NYC have drive time sports shows that even talk about hockey? I'm a NYR - they are very well liked and fans are very critical, but remember it is a James Dolan owned team so expectations are well "Knicks-like" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Listen up Terry and Kim. "Hockey heaven" huh? The fans are pissed because they show up year after year, pay good money and lose..., the media is negative b/c they always lose..people in the organization are grumpy because they always lose. The arena needs some fixing up.. etc.. I love the Pegula's for what they've done for the city but Jeez, maybe it's time for them to divest the Sabres. They could not run a worse hockey organization for 8 years running IF THEY TRIED! Those other owners,,, Regier, Golisano...they weren't even trying hard to have a good club and they were in the playoffs often enough. Pegula's? They can't get out of last place. ugh. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 He's obviously wrong, I mean, look at all the positive posts here. Don't say anything negative about buffalo ever, or else we'll get very negative. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: See, here's the thing. Stop the puck. It makes people happier. he seems to be doing that now on a playoff team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 As a decades long Buffalo sports fan, I have to agree with his assessment of some of the fan base and some of the media. Although we have some the best fans in the world, there is no shortage of miserable fans and current and former TBN writers (for example). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 "The media is incredibly hard". Lol--it's a one paper town. Fans boo because the team stinks every year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, Peter said: As a decades long Buffalo sports fan, I have to agree with his assessment of some of the fan base and some of the media. Although we have some the best fans in the world, there is no shortage of miserable fans and current and former TBN writers (for example). Yeah - just hop on twitter if u want to see it. A large portion of our fanbase is incredibly negative, and just generally quick triggered. It's like that in every market, but it just seems like its more prevalent in ours. I get it, you aren't happy with the product and you want to voice your opinion. But mentioning someone in a tweet and directly telling them that they suck is pretty rough. Do I think they should fire housley? Yeah - i thought he sucked last year and he sucked again this year. He's not a good coach. However he also doesn't have a talented team to work with. Team also plays with no fire and just generally soft every game - i put that on the coach. Do I think they should fire Botterill? Probably not. The o'reilly trade was awful, but the guy basically antonio brown'd it out of here. He also was left with a mess of a roster - poor drafts and band-aids all over the place. People ask why certain players played in the minors while the nhl team could use their help - and IMO it comes down to development. Botterill has a plan to develop players a certain way - and I don't think it'd be fair/smart to pull the plug 2 years into a full rebuild. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I mean he does have a point. The media in Buffalo is probably more critical than NYC or most hockey markets because people actually care here. Does NYC have drive time sports shows that even talk about hockey? i have many friends in NYC who are as passionate about sports as any of us are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 He was the worst shootout goalie I have ever seen. He would guess like some soccer goalies do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo-Bah Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Didn't Robin Lehner have a dependency? Maybe if his head were clearer, he would have played better. Thus making his time in Buffalo better. Anyways, last I read, he was sober and more focused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 This what constant losing does to you. People pay good money to watch you play, idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 He is lucky the fans show up for their crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Bills reporting was the same way up until recently. Pegulas have done what they can to control the media. Opinion pieces are fine, but subjective reporting parading as objective was a real problem. reporters being obnoxiously disrespectful at PCs was a real problem. Some reporters constantly acted like the Bills stole their lunch money. A lot of fans are the same way. They can't enjoy the game, regardless of it's outcome. Depression and self-righteousness has much to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 It is frustrating watching the Sabres , and how can one not point fingers at the Pegulas .. you dont miss the playoffs in the NHL 8 strtaight years. Something has not been right from the get-go .. bad advice? seems like it , at least from the hockey standpoint. i think what Lehner said has some merit.. its not cheap to attend.. and a culture of losing does not instill alot of positivity.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, Wo-Bah said: Didn't Robin Lehner have a dependency? Maybe if his head were clearer, he would have played better. Thus making his time in Buffalo better. Anyways, last I read, he was sober and more focused. Also in that article he mentioned how helpful Sabres management and ownership was. However he also had no interest at all in returning to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spielman Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ray Finkel said: He was the worst shootout goalie I have ever seen. He would guess like some soccer goalies do. I may be mistaken, but he may have gone a full season without one shootout stop. 2016-17.....even a blind squirrel..... Edited March 29, 2019 by Spielman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Maybe if he could have stopped a ***** beach ball those boos wouldn’t have been so loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 If Robin did this less he might have enjoyed his time in Buffalo more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Peter said: As a decades long Buffalo sports fan, I have to agree with his assessment of some of the fan base and some of the media. Although we have some the best fans in the world, there is no shortage of miserable fans and current and former TBN writers (for example). Spot on. It amazes me how miserable some people can get over what's essentially an entertainment option. Maybe its because, aside from Dave and Busters, there isn't enough to do around here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) I don’t participate in booing my favorite teams, but I don’t blame anyone I see booing at the arena. It’s been pretty miserable for some time now. At at the same time, would have been cool if you could stop a shot during a shootout while you were here Robin. As mentally weak of a player as I’ve ever seen. Edited March 29, 2019 by Rockpile233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, That's No Moon said: See, here's the thing. Stop the puck. It makes people happier. ...isn't he fairing better with the Isles though?......or it it all Trotz' wizardry?............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I've always wondered why our teams, more often than not, generally stink. Why do players perform better elsewhere. Why do our top picks do well, but others drafted around them do much better. Maybe something about playing in Buffalo has something to do with it? Occasionally , like when we have 4 future hall of fame players on offense, you have some success, or when you have the greatest goalie of all time, you have success, but other than that it's been pretty miserable. 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...isn't he fairing better with the Isles though?......or it it all Trotz' wizardry?............. He's sober, Trotz is a great coach, there is some talent on that team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: He's right, but the negativity is a natural reaction to decades of poor management and bottom feeding teams. I actually feel like we kept it together better than most fan based would have for what we have endured as sports fans. I don't think it's just all the losing. I recall in the 90's, Bills fans having a hissy if Dan Deirdorf mentioned Buffalo and snow in the same sentence on MNF. Buffalo sports fans were way ahead of thier time with the outrage culture nonsense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...isn't he fairing better with the Isles though?......or it it all Trotz' wizardry?............. He's played well this year. I wasn't aware of his shoot-out problems, but I haven't noticed any problem with that. After giving up the most goals in the league last year, defense has been a major emphasis and obviously Lamoriello/Trotz have had a positive impact. Lehner has been rotating with Greiss who has also played well. I think they have both been good but also benefited from the system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rockpile233 said: I don’t participate in booing my favorite teams, but I don’t blame anyone I see booing at the arena. It’s been pretty miserable for some time now. At at the same time, would have been cool if you could stop a shot during a shootout while you were here Robin. As mentally weak of a player as I’ve ever seen. apparently, not anymore. And i doubt it was your intent to mock, but he did have actual, serious mental issues while here. 47 minutes ago, dneveu said: Also in that article he mentioned how helpful Sabres management and ownership was. However he also had no interest at all in returning to Buffalo. Sounds reasonable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenInLight Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, zow2 said: Listen up Terry and Kim. "Hockey heaven" huh? The fans are pissed because they show up year after year, pay good money and lose..., the media is negative b/c they always lose..people in the organization are grumpy because they always lose. The arena needs some fixing up.. etc.. I love the Pegula's for what they've done for the city but Jeez, maybe it's time for them to divest the Sabres. They could not run a worse hockey organization for 8 years running IF THEY TRIED! Those other owners,,, Regier, Golisano...they weren't even trying hard to have a good club and they were in the playoffs often enough. Pegula's? They can't get out of last place. ugh. The fact that you think Darcy Regier was an owner invalidates this post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, HiddenInLight said: The fact that you think Darcy Regier was an owner invalidates this post. Normally I would agree with you, but he's pretty much on point in the rest of his post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, klos63 said: apparently, not anymore. And i doubt it was your intent to mock, but he did have actual, serious mental issues while here. I’m not putting the weight of Lehner’s issues on frustrated Sabres fans. Glad to see he seems to be doing better with his personal health. Considering how the organization supported him during it, I think it’s even worse to point at fans now. Edited March 29, 2019 by Rockpile233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Rockpile233 said: I’m not putting the weight of Lehner’s issues on frustrated Sabres fans. Glad to see he seems to be doing better with his personal health. That wasn't the point I was trying to make. Also, I think he had those issues before Buffalo and don't recall him ever placing blame on anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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