JMF2006 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Looks like O line, DE or DT with 9 or maybe a trade down. Good signing I hope he can stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 50 minutes ago, HOUSE said: There was a nasty rumor in town that nobody wants to play for Buffalo?? We need a bigger locker room. they just don't want to live in Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: There was a nasty rumor in town that nobody wants to play for Buffalo?? We need a bigger locker room. It's the NFL at the end of the day. Buffalo money is green. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: You know what would be the most Bills-y thing ever? Gaines and Johnson colliding during training camp and concussing each other... Or chipping a sternum, being bored, and both having kids, because as some ex-Bills receiver claims, there's nothing to do in Buffalo, but make babies ??? 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: There was a nasty rumor in town that no prima donna wants to play for Buffalo?? We need a bigger locker room. Fixed it for you, @HOUSE Incidentally, I am beyond okay with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Looks like O line, DE or DT with 9 or maybe a trade down. Good signing I hope he can stay healthy. I think the focus is on both lines. Most of our OLine aren't long term solutions, both guards and RT need some young talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 53 minutes ago, billykay said: With the free agent signings, more & more I think Beane is thinking LB in the 1st round. Devon White would look good playing with his Buddy Trevarious. Good point worth discussing, I just started a thread about LBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XABI64 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 nice. hopefully can now go full offense in the draft. Get your starting LT, Tight end and WR. that should be the priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) What a shrewd signing. Hopefully he can stay healthy. We look set on drafting a CB on Day 2 so we're going to go into next year with White, Wallace, Gaines, T. Johnson and one of Ya Sin/Layne/Joejuan/Oruwariye on the active game day roster. EDIT: Forgot about Kevin Johnson. Dang we're stacked! Edited March 25, 2019 by FeelingOnYouboty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Positions I'd be cool with in the 1st and 2nd - DE, DT, TE, LB, OG, OT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, freddyjj said: Wallace only faced one big WR in those last 7 games - Kenny Galloday from Lions who caught 7/8 passes thrown his way for 146 yds. With us playing CLE, PIT, CIN, PHL the level of WRs will be much better than last end of last season NYJ, MIA, NE) . Wallace also gave up the play to Moncrief at goal line vs JAGS that preceded the Fournette / Lawson throwdown. OBD may be worried about him vs big-time talent WRs. Galloday was in the zone that day. Tre got beat several times IIRC. 4 hours ago, DCOrange said: And TE and RB and OLine depth. And more Oline depth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Uncle Joe said: Well I don't think we will get Greedy at this juncture. Idk, I’M pretty damn greedy to get everyone we need! Great to have you back, EJ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Silly stat but a fact...earlier this afternoon, Murph said we were 8-3 when he started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Is he throwing a little shade at Cleveland/Greggo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Silly stat but a fact...earlier this afternoon, Murph said we were 8-3 when he started. Not sillly. And it was mentioned earlier in this thread. But it makes sense because the Bills had far less depth at CB in 2017 than they do/will now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Idk, I’M pretty damn greedy to get everyone we need! Great to have you back, EJ! I'm all about the dad jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, stevewin said: Is he throwing a little shade at Cleveland/Greggo? Sort of sounded that way. Sounds like he's glad to be back and I'm happy to have EJ back. Just hope he can stay healthy; that was the only reason why he walked after the 2017 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, Happy Gilmore said: Sort of sounded that way. Sounds like he's glad to be back and I'm happy to have EJ back. Just hope he can stay healthy; that was the only reason why he walked after the 2017 season. Yeah he got good money from Cleveland so they let him walk. And he proceeded to get injured quickly. If he does here as well, it won’t be any surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: That's actually the same value as his 2018 Cleveland contract............hopefully very little is guaranteed and a portion of the rest is incentives considering that he missed 10 games last year and only made a couple starts. Most of Beane's deals this winter have looked better for the players on the surface than they actually are. The risks on Morse and Beasley were the only significant ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: That's actually the same value as his 2018 Cleveland contract............hopefully very little is guaranteed and a portion of the rest is incentives considering that he missed 10 games last year and only made a couple starts. Most of Beane's deals this winter have looked better for the players on the surface than they actually are. The risks on Morse and Beasley were the only significant ones. The dead cap hit on Beasley after two seasons is only three million of things don't work out. Morse we'd have to swallow 5.5 million after two years. All these contracts are front loaded so we won't end up having to eat a contract like Dareus's (14.2 million in dead money last year). This is how smart GM's spend money when their rookie QB is at the beginning of his rookie contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 His play against the run is great in 2017 he had 43 tackles in 11 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 47 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Silly stat but a fact...earlier this afternoon, Murph said we were 8-3 when he started. Not silly, they were a different team with Gaines in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: Galloday was in the zone that day. Tre got beat several times IIRC. And more Oline depth. Yes Tre beat 2x for 70 yds by him that day. I stand corrected. Wallace was beat 4x by Galloday that day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Love it ! Fantastic depth. Push Levi on the outside. Great signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 He needs some milk! Glad to have back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: The dead cap hit on Beasley after two seasons is only three million of things don't work out. Morse we'd have to swallow 5.5 million after two years. All these contracts are front loaded so we won't end up having to eat a contract like Dareus's (14.2 million in dead money last year). This is how smart GM's spend money when their rookie QB is at the beginning of his rookie contract. Man I don't know about that exact correlation. Yes..........you should stack talent around a young QB.........that formula works. But the consistencies in his two offseason with the Bills is that Beane has shopped in volume and almost exclusively in the scratch and dent aisle. Last year he went 0-9 with that approach in UFA..........and as much as people talk those signings down NOW..........they loved them then. Gotta' score with a bunch of these signings this time..........kinda' playing catch up after 100% whiffs in UFA last year(thankfully they hit on some UDFA's or it would have been uglier). Edited March 25, 2019 by BADOLBILZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Man I don't know about that exact correlation. Yes..........you should stack talent around a young QB.........that formula works. But the one consistency in his two offseason with the Bills is that Beane has shopped in volume and almost exclusively in the scratch and dent aisle. Last year he went 0-9 with that approach in UFA..........and as much as people talk those signings down NOW..........they loved them then. Gotta' score with a bunch of these signings this time..........kinda' playing catch up after 100% whiffs in UFA last year(thankfully they hit on some UDFA's or it would have been uglier). I don't even remember signing anyone last year, except for Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Yes Tre beat 2x for 70 yds by him that day. I stand corrected. Wallace was beat 4x by Galloday that day From what I recall, Stafford was just tossing-it-up to Golladay and he was making these circus catches that no one could have defended. That was his best game all season. And they still lost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coach Tuesday Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said: I don't even remember signing anyone last year, except for Star. Vontae Davis's corpse ring a bell? How about AJ McCarron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: That's actually the same value as his 2018 Cleveland contract............hopefully very little is guaranteed and a portion of the rest is incentives considering that he missed 10 games last year and only made a couple starts. Most of Beane's deals this winter have looked better for the players on the surface than they actually are. The risks on Morse and Beasley were the only significant ones. I just hope this isn't another Percy Harvin situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Vontae Davis's corpse ring a bell? How about AJ McCarron? Oooooohhhhh yeahhhhh. Also Ivory. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackFlutie said: Oooooohhhhh yeahhhhh. Also Ivory. Meh. Ultimately, I've concluded that there is NO Bills free agency approach that will please some Bills fans. They didn't spend at all? "They're asleep at the wheel! Fire Beane!" They spent big on premium players? "They're overpaying! You win through the draft! Fire Beane!" They handed out short, modest contracts to role players and bargain free agents? "They're shopping in the bargain aisle! They have no eye for talent! Fire Beane!" You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. For what it's worth, even though no one asked me, I think the approach this front office takes to free agency is perfect. Identify 1-2 premium players each year and hand out big contracts to just those players. The rest of the way, fill holes with short term, low risk bargain or market level deals. Continue to build through the draft. Stockpile the majority of your cap allotment to re-sign your OWN draftees. Perfect. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Man I don't know about that exact correlation. Yes..........you should stack talent around a young QB.........that formula works. But the consistencies in his two offseason with the Bills is that Beane has shopped in volume and almost exclusively in the scratch and dent aisle. Last year he went 0-9 with that approach in UFA..........and as much as people talk those signings down NOW..........they loved them then. Gotta' score with a bunch of these signings this time..........kinda' playing catch up after 100% whiffs in UFA last year(thankfully they hit on some UDFA's or it would have been uglier). As a general rule, you better hit on most of your free agent signings and draft picks or you'll be working for the XFL. It doesn't take away from the fact that you structure these salaries so you won't be hamstrung in a couple years when you hopefully need to resign your draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: As a general rule, you better hit on most of your free agent signings and draft picks or you'll be working for the XFL. It doesn't take away from the fact that you structure these salaries so you won't be hamstrung in a couple years when you hopefully need to resign your draft picks. The defense has been good, so they can at least hang their hats on that. What they need for job security is for Josh to hit. And then if he does, get them to a SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Logic said: Ultimately, I've concluded that there is NO Bills free agency approach that will please some Bills fans. They didn't spend at all? "They're asleep at the wheel! Fire Beane!" They spent big on premium players? "They're overpaying! You win through the draft! Fire Beane!" They handed out short, modest contracts to role players and bargain free agents? "They're shopping in the bargain aisle! They have no eye for talent! Fire Beane!" You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. For what it's worth, even though no one asked me, I think the approach this front office takes to free agency is perfect. Identify 1-2 premium players each year and hand out big contracts to just those players. The rest of the way, fill holes with short term, low risk bargain or market level deals. Continue to build through the draft. Stockpile the majority of your cap allotment to re-sign your OWN draftees. Perfect. I like that idea. That's how you HAVE to do it, I think. High-priced free agents almost always underwhelm, and then you're stuck with their contract and you can't effectively build a roster. You may as well get cheaper, still motivated FAs to fill some holes. Then you can get that star talent in the draft, where you can pick the one that fits your scheme, they're young/moldable, and you don't have to pay them $100 mil contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Logic said: Ultimately, I've concluded that there is NO Bills free agency approach that will please some Bills fans. They didn't spend at all? "They're asleep at the wheel! Fire Beane!" They spent big on premium players? "They're overpaying! You win through the draft! Fire Beane!" They handed out short, modest contracts to role players and bargain free agents? "They're shopping in the bargain aisle! They have no eye for talent! Fire Beane!" You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. For what it's worth, even though no one asked me, I think the approach this front office takes to free agency is perfect. Identify 1-2 premium players each year and hand out big contracts to just those players. The rest of the way, fill holes with short term, low risk bargain or market level deals. Continue to build through the draft. Stockpile the majority of your cap allotment to re-sign your OWN draftees. Perfect. What is lost in all that hyperbolic nonsense above is that the key is getting the player assessments right. 0-9 last UFA season.......including the strange "he wasn't who we thought he was" McCarron situation.......shows either questionable due diligence or medical or film evaluations.........so despite you implying that it was commendable work it most certainly was not. I like the approach of using UFA to fill holes so that there isn't pressure to reach for needs in the draft.........but you still gotta' get good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 If I recall, we won a ton of games when he was healthy. The games he missed we lost en route to the playoffs. Love it that he’s back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: What is lost in all that hyperbolic nonsense above is that the key is getting the player assessments right. 0-9 last UFA season.......including the strange "he wasn't who we thought he was" McCarron situation.......shows either questionable due diligence or medical or film evaluations.........so despite you implying that it was commendable work it most certainly was not. I like the approach of using UFA to fill holes so that there isn't pressure to reach for needs in the draft.........but you still gotta' get good players. I mean, man, come on. You can't complain about hyperbole and then call free agency "0-9." Star was good, Ivory was good, Trent was good. Even Bodine was good for what he was brought in to do. And nothing of what he said was hyperbole. That is literally the state of the message board. They really are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Edited March 25, 2019 by JoshAllenHasBigHands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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