BillsVet Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Spencer Long must be kicking himself for signing his early cheap deal with the Bills... Might be time to find a new agent.. Long and Miller probably have similar contracts. The agent talks up the total dollars, fans get carried away with it, but the guaranteed money is very little. IIRC, Long's deal only guaranteed 1.2M. I'd bet Miller's deal is along the same lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 He’s an upgrade for them ??♂️ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: He’s an upgrade for them ??♂️ Not a monster improvement, but does look to be one. Has the chance of being better with the scheme change (and possibly better OL coaching?) I had high hopes for him, I wish him well, and honestly the Bengals to beat up on the Steelers, Ravens, and Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsVet said: Long and Miller probably have similar contracts. The agent talks up the total dollars, fans get carried away with it, but the guaranteed money is very little. IIRC, Long's deal only guaranteed 1.2M. I'd bet Miller's deal is along the same lines. I’ll be interested to see the final numbers for Miller... I expected him to get a $5m/ 2 yr deal so I am surprised to say the least.. Also waiting to see what Mills gets.. I would think he would get more than this deal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan28277 said: And the Bengals fans laughed at us last year for signing Bodine. SMH. And now, we're even ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Congrats, John. He can hang out with Preston who also got a nice new deal there. And only Shaq Lawson remains as the last Whaley draft pick ... dun dun dun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Survivor Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Mister Defense said: Very cool to hear. If the Bengals wanted him then it is an excellent sign he is no good. It's nice that people don't look at Bills moves like this anymore, which was certainly the case for well over a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I think he can play, just didn't work out here after a good looking rook year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 51 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Congrats, John. He can hang out with Preston who also got a nice new deal there. My favorite review of the Preston resigning is from Walter Football: (I added the orange color) Quote Bengals re-sign LB Preston Brown (3 years, $21 million): FARMER FAIL, GRIGSON GAFFE, CERRATO SUCKAGE, BAALKE BLOOPER, CHIP TRAGEDY, KING CALAMITY, SASHI SUFFERIN SUCCOTASH Grade When I saw the details of this contract, I literally shouted, "PRESTON BROWN GOT $21 MILLION ... WHY!?!?!?" Preston Brown was one of the worst starting linebackers in the NFL last year before he suffered a season-ending knee injury in November. I thought the Bengals could bring Brown back for a 1-year deal for close to the minimum. That would have made sense. Giving a linebacker as terrible as Brown $7 million per year makes no sense! It's almost comical how lost the Bengals appear without Marvin Lewis' guidance. Their transformation to a perennial two-win team is well underway. By the way, I added a new name to my "F" grade. I cannot believe I forgot about Sashi Brown. E-mailer Kevin Q. reminded me about Brown, so I hope you all enjoy his addition to the new "F" grade. http://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php#ixzz5iFuohWlv#0lcsDpOb1YtPgXwm.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Rufridr101 said: He must fit their scheme Plant your feet and hope they run into you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Very classy goodbye from Miller 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) I kind of feel like donating $17 to Dalton's foundation. Not for the playoffs thing but the 17 times he's going to get sacked as a result of Miller. Edited March 15, 2019 by The Wiz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Very classy goodbye from Miller Honestly hope he finds the game he was flashing early on. Different coaches, different situation, and some fire in the belly to prove folks wrong. Sometimes all it takes. In all seriousness, I wish him luck. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Very classy goodbye from Miller ...nice find bud.....and I agree....certainly wish him the best in the new chapter.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I'm glad to see many positive posts wishing him well. I don't understand the animosity by some posters----makes me think they never actually played football. The guy was a good soldier here----he paid his dues in the NFL & tried his best. Personally I don't think he was a good fit for our OL scheme & I don't think our previous OL coach was very good at developing players. I wish him well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 6 hours ago, MJS said: One man's trash is another man's treasure. Miller certainly has NOT impressed here in Buffalo, but I suppose he does have quite a lot of starts under his belt, so maybe that is the draw. Well I suspect Glenn recommended him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, 1st&ten said: I'm glad to see many positive posts wishing him well. I don't understand the animosity by some posters----makes me think they never actually played football. The guy was a good soldier here----he paid his dues in the NFL & tried his best. Personally I don't think he was a good fit for our OL scheme & I don't think our previous OL coach was very good at developing players. I wish him well. ..pretty sad isn't it?.....the "I told you so" gang wants to embellish their "he sucks" proclamations, 'lil keyboard cowardice under the safety of their desks.....think about it...only 1,696 realize the privilege of NFL employment annually out of what, 300 million people?...and you want to hate on a kid fulfilling his lifelong dream?.....back in 1977, I went out to the ND/Pitt game (Dorsett was Pitt's RB)......went to the on campus Morris Inn for dinner....in walked Ross Browner & Willie Fry (Google 'em)...the freaking room got dark......want to tell those behemoths IN PERSON "you suck?".....um ok............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 A right side of John Miller and Bobby Hart? Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..pretty sad isn't it?.....the "I told you so" gang wants to embellish their "he sucks" proclamations, 'lil keyboard cowardice under the safety of their desks.....think about it...only 1,696 realize the privilege of NFL employment annually out of what, 300 million people?...and you want to hate on a kid fulfilling his lifelong dream?.....back in 1977, I went out to the ND/Pitt game (Dorsett was Pitt's RB)......went to the on campus Morris Inn for dinner....in walked Ross Browner & Willie Fry (Google 'em)...the freaking room got dark......want to tell those behemoths IN PERSON "you suck?".....um ok............. Agreed, very sad indeed. Happy trails, so long, good luck, and goodbye John Miller. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 6 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Poor Bengals.. This is embarrassing. Miller was at times our worst olineman. And sometimes not even worthy as a backup? Somebody in Cinncy didn't do their research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: This is embarrassing. Miller was at times our worst olineman. And sometimes not even worthy as a backup? Somebody in Cinncy didn't do their research. ...an epic failure under the expert guidance and tutelage of OL Coach Nine Juan Juan Castillo......is he a coaching UFA???............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 John had a really tough first year in Buffalo when his mother passed away. The way that he dealt with it was admirable for someone so young and removed from his immediate support group due to his relocation. I still believe that there's a starting calibre player in there if he can find the right fit. I truly hope that he finds that in Cincy because he's a fine young man that I will always have an affinity for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 7 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Wow! ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 benglas? is that a team from that new league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Not a bad deal for the Benglas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..pretty sad isn't it?.....the "I told you so" gang wants to embellish their "he sucks" proclamations, 'lil keyboard cowardice under the safety of their desks.....think about it...only 1,696 realize the privilege of NFL employment annually out of what, 300 million people?...and you want to hate on a kid fulfilling his lifelong dream?.....back in 1977, I went out to the ND/Pitt game (Dorsett was Pitt's RB)......went to the on campus Morris Inn for dinner....in walked Ross Browner & Willie Fry (Google 'em)...the freaking room got dark......want to tell those behemoths IN PERSON "you suck?".....um ok............. I admit, I was bashing him pretty hard myself (for his play)...thought he and Mills were likely going to get Shady or our shiny new Josh killed. Things happen and players lose focus, and I am not sure Juan was the right coach to help him through that. He's a young guy, and that was a classy farewell, so I found I really did hope he gets his game back on track. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: Is their scheme overpaying for injured or mediocre linemen? Didnt they re sign one of the lowest grade linemen to a big contract this offseason? Are you describing Bills or Bengals? 1 hour ago, Blokestradamus said: John had a really tough first year in Buffalo when his mother passed away. The way that he dealt with it was admirable for someone so young and removed from his immediate support group due to his relocation. I still believe that there's a starting calibre player in there if he can find the right fit. I truly hope that he finds that in Cincy because he's a fine young man that I will always have an affinity for. Don't forget he played the second half of the season on a badly sprained ankle that he should have been placed on IR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 hours ago, H2o said: Poor Andy Dalton. It's like he's being punished for something. Isn't being a half-orangutan punishment enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 We now don’t have a single player left from our 2015 draft class. If you’re keeping score at home, that’s not god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Bangarang said: We now don’t have a single player left from our 2015 draft class. If you’re keeping score at home, that’s not god. Shaq is the only player left from any draft class of Whaley pre-McDermott. 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 10 hours ago, MAJBobby said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 hours ago, Captain Murica said: He’s an upgrade for them ??♂️ wow, Alex Redmond is really terrible Good luck to Miller, I think being benched in the regime change hurt his passion. Maybe a new start is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: wow, Alex Redmond is really terrible Good luck to Miller, I think being benched in the regime change hurt his passion. Maybe a new start is a good thing. Also nice that he’s close to his alma Mater Louisville 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 hours ago, WideNine said: Honestly hope he finds the game he was flashing early on. Different coaches, different situation, and some fire in the belly to prove folks wrong. Sometimes all it takes. In all seriousness, I wish him luck. We weren’t a particularly good spot. In his rookie deal he dealt with how many coaches/schemes and who beside him at tackle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 The Bengals now have 40% of the Bills old OL that was not very good! Why would they want what we know doesn't work and needed to be upgraded? Glad we've learned from our mistakes! Go Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Well last year we took their leftovers with Bodine, then realized quickly why they dumped him. Only fair they take our leftovers this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 15 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: The dude is legit worse than Mills Not according to PFF or stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 21 hours ago, billsfan28277 said: And the Bengals fans laughed at us last year for signing Bodine. SMH. Bodine was awful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I will never understand how that franchise evaluates offensive linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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