foreboding Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 McBeane has filled so many holes with B+ FA's; I think if the Bills fall in love with someone they could expend draft capital and now move up to get a blue chipper (A+) they love or trade back and/or stockpile some picks for next year. Draft day just got more exciting methinks- Williams, Allen?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, foreboding said: McBeane has filled so many holes with B+ FA's; I think if the Bills fall in love with someone they could expend draft capital and now move up to get a blue chipper (A+) they love or trade back and/or stockpile some picks for next year. Draft day just got more exciting methinks- Williams, Allen?? please god no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: please god no No to what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The draft is deep, at 9 and 40 they have a chance at two blue chippers. Go BPA and nail both of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 No to trade up.....if anything....trade DOWN 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, CommonCents said: The draft is deep, at 9 and 40 they have a chance at two blue chippers. Go BPA and nail both of them. A "blue chipper" at 40? That's an oxymoron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 It better not be 3 first rounders for Bo Callahan. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 of course a draft day trade is possible..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenInLight Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Knowing Beane a draft day trade is likely. He loves to jump around in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: A "blue chipper" at 40? That's an oxymoron. The Patriots camp said this week that the defensive side of the draft is so strong that even if the first 31 picks are D guys they will still be happy with a D guy at 32. I know that’s big talk but if you look at the depth it is pretty wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) I was going to start a very similar thread but I'm lazy. I could see him trading up now that we have filled a bunch of holes in FA. Beane likes to trade up for players he covets (Allen, Edmunds, Zay, & Dawkins). I wish we knew the players he loves.... Also I prefer to trade back into the bottom of the 1st than make a trade up from 9. Edit: Beane was not here for trade up for Zay & Dawkins. Seems like he's been here longer than he has. Edited March 13, 2019 by qwksilver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, 947 said: It better not be 3 first rounders for Bo Callahan. Vontae Mack no mater what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I wont believe it until there is an obscure tweet about it from an unreliable source. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, CommonCents said: The Patriots camp said this week that the defensive side of the draft is so strong that even if the first 31 picks are D guys they will still be happy with a D guy at 32. I know that’s big talk but if you look at the depth it is pretty wild. It is deep. I think you're just using the "blue chipper" certification too liberally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 If Quinnen Williams gets down to 5 or 6 I wonder if we try to make a play. I'm not sure which team actually picks him if the Cards go with Kyler at 1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: If Quinnen Williams gets down to 5 or 6 I wonder if we try to make a play. I'm not sure which team actually picks him if the Cards go with Kyler at 1. I hope so!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: If Quinnen Williams gets down to 5 or 6 I wonder if we try to make a play. I'm not sure which team actually picks him if the Cards go with Kyler at 1. I wonder what that would cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elltrain22 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Trade down we all will be happy about that, but if anyone even whispers trade up I wanna punch them in the face!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, qwksilver said: I wonder what that would cost? I don't know the trade chart but I'd be down for two 3rds, this year and next. Maybe could be talked into #9 and #40 to move up if absolutely forced, though I'd like to find a way to keep 40. He is an elite prospect who perfectly fits what we need, a penetrator to **** some plays up from the 3-tech. I don't think Shanahan takes him at 2, the question to me is the Jets at 3. Don't think Gruden goes that way at 4, and I believe TB at 5 and NYG at 6 are both 3-4 teams, though he might fit in with the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: I don't know the trade chart but I'd be down for two 3rds, this year and next. Maybe could be talked into #9 and #40 to move up if absolutely forced, though I'd like to find a way to keep 40. He is an elite prospect who perfectly fits what we need, a penetrator to **** some plays up from the 3-tech. I don't think Shanahan takes him at 2, the question to me is the Jets at 3. Don't think Gruden goes that way at 4, and I believe TB at 5 and NYG at 6 are both 3-4 teams, though he might fit in with the Giants. it's meaningless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: I don't know the trade chart but I'd be down for two 3rds, this year and next. Maybe could be talked into #9 and #40 to move up if absolutely forced, though I'd like to find a way to keep 40. He is an elite prospect who perfectly fits what we need, a penetrator to **** some plays up from the 3-tech. I don't think Shanahan takes him at 2, the question to me is the Jets at 3. Don't think Gruden goes that way at 4, and I believe TB at 5 and NYG at 6 are both 3-4 teams, though he might fit in with the Giants. If they trade up from 9 they absolutely have to find a way to keep # 40 and next years #1. Say 1 3 & 5 This year and a 2 or 3 next.... Edited March 13, 2019 by qwksilver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Draft day trades up or down are “possible?” Strong take. Really going out on a limb there. Would have never realized. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Thats quite a prediction Nostradomus...the Bills MAY trade up or down on draft day. In other news, the sun will rise again tomorrow...and it will also set later that day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 0% chance we will trade up from 9. Beane even said we are in the top 10 and don’t need to be. He knows there is great value to be had at 9 this year, not a chance IMO he moves up. HOWEVER, I do think it’s quite possible he will trade up somewhere in the draft, just not going up from #9. I think it’s possible if a guy they covet is there late in the first and they don’t think he will make it to #40, I could see Beane maybe trading up from 40 to get him. Like maybe one of the TEs, Ford, OT, or a WR. I can see him maybe trading our 3rd and one extra 4th to get back into 2nd round again to grab a coveted guy there too. If we DO trade down from 9 and pickup extra picks, then I think it’s very likely he will also trade up somewhere in the first 3 rounds too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 to the title: that's always true, every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) Based on their FA acquisitions, the Bills are obviously more flexible with their 9th pick. I believe if a top 5 talent isn't there at 9, they trade down. If there is someone there that they thought "no way we have a shot" they will stay and take him. I would look out for DL/Edge pass rushing talents that may fall due to teams fighting for QB's. There are many blue chippers that may drop, and you always have that team in the top 10 that takes a player they love from left field. If they trade down, I'm OK with that. It will mean extra picks either in the 1st round, or multiple 2nd and 3rd's. With this FO, Beane's record in rounds 1-4 is pretty stellar. Hence why I see them signing older players to 1-2 year deals in OL and RB. To me that screams they will be trading down and taking prospects that they want to groom to be starters in a year or two. Plus, they'll be able to learn how to play, train, and study, the right way from veterans in the league, "high character guys". After the first week of FA, based on the age/talent levels of some of the players they signed, I see the Bills focusing on 1. DL/Edge (Edge-wise Hughes is 30 and in last year of deal, and Lawson is in limbo re; 5th year option, Trent Murphy is in a make or break year. The combo of Star/Phillips/Jordan may not be deep in enough in Beane's eyes. They haven't really done anything FA wise in those areas. They will in the draft. 2. TE (Kroft's deal is more of a 1 year prove it, and Jason Croom isn't anything to write home about. I see them taking TE in first two rounds.) 3. OL (with Nsekhe is 33, Long and Feliciano are fringe starters. Nsekhe can give a player taken in late 1st after trade or 2nd-3rd round time to grow). 4. RB (We have 3 RB's over 30, that's if Ivory sticks. Marcus Murphy is 27 and more of a role player. I see the Bills drafting RB early and be our workhorse in 2020 and beyond after Shady and Gore leave) 5. OLB (Alexander has maybe a year left. I see them taking an OL in first 3 rounds to replace him) And, of course, a CB somewhere Edited March 13, 2019 by dezertbill 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I see us moving around some however its hard to say when and where because chips have to fall 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 It is so premature to make any speculation, not that the OP is wrong. We just don’t know what else we will do with the rest of free agency. What about Ansah, or anyone we haven’t heard about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: 0% chance we will trade up from 9. Beane even said we are in the top 10 and don’t need to be. He knows there is great value to be had at 9 this year, not a chance IMO he moves up. HOWEVER, I do think it’s quite possible he will trade up somewhere in the draft, just not going up from #9. I think it’s possible if a guy they covet is there late in the first and they don’t think he will make it to #40, I could see Beane maybe trading up from 40 to get him. Like maybe one of the TEs, Ford, OT, or a WR. I can see him maybe trading our 3rd and one extra 4th to get back into 2nd round again to grab a coveted guy there too. If we DO trade down from 9 and pickup extra picks, then I think it’s very likely he will also trade up somewhere in the first 3 rounds too. I know there are other options at DT Alpha, but if Quinnen gets down to 5 or 6 and they feel he can have a Donald / Fletcher Cox / Chris Jones impact? Suppose you can get it done for a 3rd and a 2020 2nd, maybe a bit more...is it really so outlandish? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 We already know Beane has no problems moving around the board. Based on everything he's said over the last few months, I really think he's been eying a trade-down this year. Of course, that all depends on who is available at #9 and what kind of offers other teams make. Free agency has played out perfectly for us, so that we can maximize value in the draft. And we still have around $40 million in cap space. They are clearly targeting the pass rush, and I expect them to make a move to grab another DE within the next few days. Sounds like they are going to make a nice offer to Ziggy Ansah, if he checks out medically. Our biggest need was O-Line. With the guys we've picked up, it's possible we already have our starting five on the roster. But we could also draft an OT or OG early, slide some people around and go into the season with upgraded depth. Our second biggest need was WR. By adding two solid veterans, we are no longer desperate to go here early. We don't have a clear #1 target, so I still think we draft someone on Day 1-2 here, but it's no longer a desperate situation. At this point, (in addition to another pass rusher as already mentioned) I think we still need to add another TE and a 3-Tech DT to replace Kyle Williams. Outside of that, we can literally go with anything when the draft comes around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Of course a trade is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The defense was pretty good last year. They can probably get a decent DT at #40. Remember that if there are a lot of great defensive linemen out this year.... it might be a good idea to get a high level offensive tackle to neutralize them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I think we stay at 9 and take bpa then trade back into 1st rd for OL or pass rusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Trade down is fine, but no way should we trade up. Sign Ziggy Ed Oliver at 9 TE/WR/OL at 40 TE/WR/OL in Rd 3 RB & Depth Rd 4-7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Trade up with the 2nd pick.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: 0% chance we will trade up from 9. Beane even said we are in the top 10 and don’t need to be. He knows there is great value to be had at 9 this year, not a chance IMO he moves up. HOWEVER, I do think it’s quite possible he will trade up somewhere in the draft, just not going up from #9. I think it’s possible if a guy they covet is there late in the first and they don’t think he will make it to #40, I could see Beane maybe trading up from 40 to get him. Like maybe one of the TEs, Ford, OT, or a WR. I can see him maybe trading our 3rd and one extra 4th to get back into 2nd round again to grab a coveted guy there too. If we DO trade down from 9 and pickup extra picks, then I think it’s very likely he will also trade up somewhere in the first 3 rounds too. Cmonnnnnn. Im not saying were trading up but thats not really a good way to tell anything lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said: I think we stay at 9 and take bpa then trade back into 1st rd for OL or pass rusher I'm close to this - thinking Ed Oliver and trade back in for Hock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 trade 9 to the Raiders for AB? (kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I'm close to this - thinking Ed Oliver and trade back in for Hock That would be sick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Thats quite a prediction Nostradomus...the Bills MAY trade up or down on draft day. In other news, the sun will rise again tomorrow...and it will also set later that day. hopefully....it is western ny.....in march Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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