Punching Bag Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Good article on him and him going to TE: https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/3/2/18247494/bengals-ot-jake-fisher-oregon-ducks-tight-end-nfl-free-agency Coming into the NFL, Fisher’s athleticism was what made him special. At 306 pounds, he was about as all-round of an athlete you could find at the position. By dropping about 20 pounds, Fisher can maximize the athleticism he still has at just 25 (soon to be 26) years old. It should be noted that Fisher originally transitioned from tight end to offensive tackle when he got to college at Oregon. His experience blocking from an inline alignment should aid in his transition, but it’s a bold career move nonetheless. He also is being looked at by Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Though it might just be easier to sign Ryan Hewitt. https://www.cincyjungle.com/2015/12/31/10695560/ryan-hewitt-injury-sparks-bengals-to-move-jake-fisher-to-fullback-h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Totally goes with what appears to be the theme of Beane/McD signings...... Athletic versa guys......was a high draft pick as an offensive linemen.....can also play TE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Btw does anyone know what the heck happened to Troy Niklas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 Yolo-damas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Reverse Peters? Like the creativity 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Yolo-damas Nicely done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Totally goes with what appears to be the theme of Beane/McD signings...... Athletic versa guys......was a high draft pick as an offensive linemen.....can also play TE. Oh I thought the theme was to help other teams get comp picks.. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/3/2019 at 4:39 PM, EmotionallyUnstable said: I'm sure he can catch. That's not what makes this funny to me. How many times will we see a player transition to another position as if it will instantly make them a better football player? Take Logan Thomas: QB transitioned to TE, what, two years into his career. How is that going? As other posters have mentioned, these experiments (I.e Manhertz) almost always fair. To think a player at 25 years old can drop the position from which they were DRAFTED IN THE SECOND ROUND to be a NFL caliber player at a different position is insane. He will likely be a 6th tackle, just with an elidgable number. This isn't exactly switching from corner to safety. OL to TE specifically, I can't recall one. But there are plenty of CBs who transition to S successfully and that change is harder than you'd think. Plenty of college Ts who switch to G in the NFL as well. Lorax is playing OLB/DE and he started his career on the DL, then OL/TE and then lost a bunch of weight and now plays everywhere, so it's not the weirdest thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) A really tough dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPisipQR_gU Edited March 21, 2019 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 9:18 AM, Logic said: This team never really recovered from the loss of Lee Smith. I'd offer him $10million per. GUESS WHO!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 His college highlights make me think of Jonah Williams. Fisher looked lights out here in those videos. Great feet and all, but there just wasn't enough power in his game and he sucked in the NFL. That's why drafting a linemen high in the draft who isn't pretty much a guarantee is a poor move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 10:37 AM, YoloinOhio said: McD loves him some position versatility. Thought this was interesting to keep an eye on. Another one is George Fant in Seattle who can play OT and TE ...speaking of "re-inventing", anybody catch Joe Thomas' post retirement re-make on NFLN?.....guess it is doable...pretty impressive.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I wonder if YOLO knows about this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...speaking of "re-inventing", anybody catch Joe Thomas' post retirement re-make on NFLN?.....guess it is doable...pretty impressive.......... He looks great 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalothruMyVeins Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I'm intrigued by him, but also want the Bills to pick up a TE in the 2nd round, and also see mild upside in Croom... so all of these guys would give us 4 TEs, which I think might be 1 too many in today's NFL. But if it were a smaller deal, maybe 2 years, $5-7M, it might be worth the experiment. Mightbe a little more valuable in total vs Croom's receiving-only upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 hope they land him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I think they sign him you can rule out Hock......but maybe a TE later This would really signal OL then DL to me in this draft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 He ran a 5.01 40 at 306 lbs. Not sure how much faster at 285. So, as a blocker that might catch 5 passes a year...maybe. I'd rather go big here in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 11:03 AM, TheBeaneBandit said: Color me intrigued. Indeed. color me as well.intrigued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 He’s worked out for a couple other teams too - I think the Bills are just turning over all rocks at this position of need, as they needed bodies as well as talent. Even if they do sign him, I don’t think it will change their plans at TE in the draft one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 58 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: OL to TE specifically, I can't recall one. But there are plenty of CBs who transition to S successfully and that change is harder than you'd think. Plenty of college Ts who switch to G in the NFL as well. Lorax is playing OLB/DE and he started his career on the DL, then OL/TE and then lost a bunch of weight and now plays everywhere, so it's not the weirdest thing. To add to your post. George Wilson WR- S Troy brown WR/ CB(played both) Deion sanders WR/CB(played both), baseball Terelle Pryor QB-WR Thats just off the top of my head that switched in pros. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 A solid blocking Te possibly. If he can show some athleticism maybe it's not a bad move. Still need a blocking te on the roster. So low end blocker Te with potential to be more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) On 3/3/2019 at 8:36 AM, Steve O said: I thought so to but this guy was drafted in the second by Cinci. Jake Long was #1 overall in 2008, Eric Fisher out of Central Michigan was the #1 overall pick in 2013. Jake Fisher combines both their names which may have caused our confusion. Like Jake Skywalker? ? Edited March 21, 2019 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 56 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...speaking of "re-inventing", anybody catch Joe Thomas' post retirement re-make on NFLN?.....guess it is doable...pretty impressive.......... Yes. He looks like with work could be a passable TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 The question is, does he have enough athletism to be anything more than a blocking te? His combine numbers were not super freaky for a OT let alone a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 This would, historically, be a new but typical way for the Bills to abuse the wasteland that has been TE on their roster. Is it really this difficult to find an actual TE who is better than barely mediocre?? If the Bills are still planning not to make the TE position an offensive threat (again), then just stick with the crew they already have under contract and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mat68 said: The question is, does he have enough athletism to be anything more than a blocking te? His combine numbers were not super freaky for a OT let alone a TE. I don’t know but he was a 4 star recruit at TE coming out of HS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Maybe the next Paul Seymour. Maybe we can then trade him for the next Frank Lewis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 32 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: To add to your post. George Wilson WR- S Troy brown WR/ CB(played both) Deion sanders WR/CB(played both), baseball Terelle Pryor QB-WR Thats just off the top of my head that switched in pros. Don't forget Jason Peters TE to Tackle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 He is a guy who could be a great blocking TE if he has agility and hands to be a little threat as a receiver. I understand he converted fro TE to OT in college, so dropping weigh and going back could be pretty natural. I think the Bills still want a run heavy offense and he could be a good addition to that. I saw saw maybe some upside in Croom last year as a receiver, but I don’t think that Croom, Kraft and Fisher would prevent them from taking a TE high if there was one available that they really like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 To me its more smoke that we are looking at a blocking TE like Hockenson round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: He is a guy who could be a great blocking TE if he has agility and hands to be a little threat as a receiver. I understand he converted fro TE to OT in college, so dropping weigh and going back could be pretty natural. I think the Bills still want a run heavy offense and he could be a good addition to that. I saw saw maybe some upside in Croom last year as a receiver, but I don’t think that Croom, Kraft and Fisher would prevent them from taking a TE high if there was one available that they really like. Yep I agree. There are only two guys on the roster right now, so adding a project like Fisher, while having another project in Croom, in no way would keep them from drafting another guy. I do think, in theory, you could move on from DiMarco if Fisher can be an Hback, blocking tight end and fullback, which he did a bit for the Bengals. The Ravens rolled with 4 tight ends last year, all with different skill sets, and I think Beane is looking for guys who complement one another. Now I feel they added Fisher and say Maxx Williams, they probably aren't drafting a guy high. Edited March 21, 2019 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/3/2019 at 6:39 PM, Logic said: I do, too. And bruising fullbacks. Don't tell anybody. so you too kinda like Ivory and Gore ? where is the whispering font : 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/3/2019 at 2:20 PM, Bangarang said: Pretty sure he’s going to suck at TE This has Bills written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 11:31 AM, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I would rather have a OT who converted to TE than a WR. At least you know the converted OT can do one thing very good. Converted WR's that try to be TE's look like KB and Croom. I would rather go with the OT converting to TE or my favorite the Antonio Gates way, I'm surprised more power forwards aren't scouted more to try out as a TE. It's too bad NBA players make so much more money. Could you imagine Zion Williamson playing TE in the NFL? Size, Speed, Strength, Hops, Hands. He be absolutely unstoppable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: Oh I thought the theme was to help other teams get comp picks.. Thanks. Oh a Patriot fan are we ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Remember when Jason Peters was a TE? What a physical freak he was.....that blocked punt in Cincinnati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: This would, historically, be a new but typical way for the Bills to abuse the wasteland that has been TE on their roster. Is it really this difficult to find an actual TE who is better than barely mediocre?? If the Bills are still planning not to make the TE position an offensive threat (again), then just stick with the crew they already have under contract and call it a day. I think it's interesting that the one guy they brought in for a visit was Nauta from Georgia. He's an interesting prospect I suppose. Not real tall but a high end blocker. Not real elusive, but solid straight line speed and great hands. With all the talk about Hock, we have no idea which tight ends Beane is actually looking at. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s worked out for a couple other teams too - I think the Bills are just turning over all rocks at this position of need, as they needed bodies as well as talent. Even if they do sign him, I don’t think it will change their plans at TE in the draft one bit. i don't even think that is how they play the game. They will draft as close to BPA as possible even when trading around. Best Value coincides with best player for them. FA is not the solve generally. it is for time to develop draft picks and potential gems. That i why is was so pleased with Morse. Biggest need and great fit. and now back to Bills regularly scheduled programming ( method ) they should pick him up because he is athletic and smart. McBeanes style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 11:31 AM, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I would rather have a OT who converted to TE than a WR. At least you know the converted OT can do one thing very good. Converted WR's that try to be TE's look like KB and Croom. I would rather go with the OT converting to TE or my favorite the Antonio Gates way, I'm surprised more power forwards aren't scouted more to try out as a TE. Tony Gonzales baby. (Although Gates had better basketball stats) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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