Logic Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I wish him well. He was cursed with a big contract and couldn't live up to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-draft-ranking-all-16-tight-ends-to-know-from-t-j-hockenson-to-tommy-sweeney/ Daboll has to have his eye on Irv Smith. He was always a reliable target at Bama. Just now, Shaw66 said: I wish him well. He was cursed with a big contract and couldn't live up to it. You can pretty much say that of most Free Agent signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, junior12thman92 said: This doesn't add up... 178 receptions and 9 TDs over 4 years "Headlines" "Deep free agent TE market" That's the headline of a deep TE market? If that’s the “deep” free agent market I would rather draft our TE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 He wasn't even producing against the Dolphins anymore. Those used to be his big games of production. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarg12 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Not surprising, being a healthy scratch last game of the year. I'd like to see them draft someone that can stick with Allen for a long time, someone like Irv Smith who is familiar with Daboll's system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Roll the dice and give this dog a bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: ? Clay is the headliner of a “deep FA TE market”???? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: In dont think its about the money so much as he could have put up better numbers else where. According to a tweet I just read he was offered more by the Browns. Numbers?...........what do you think he missed his chance at the HOF? " If only I had those Browns QB's" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Tatonka68 said: Roll the dice and give this dog a bone. I believe I read on here from someone that knows his dad that he thinks Buffalo is a ?hole and hated the facilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Healthy scratch end of year said it all No brainer move. He was never going to help Josh develop. Nor does he have any chance of haunting us. Now we can focus on finding a quality long term TE. He got his very generous big payday and doubt he signs for much anywhere else. What a waste. Edited February 15, 2019 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 My guess is he is done in the league. Not sure he will pass a medical anywhere and I doubt anyone offers him the $$s to make continuing to play worth his while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Captain Murica said: I believe I read on here from someone that knows his dad that he thinks Buffalo is a ?hole and hated the facilities? Ice Cream Hole?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Must mean we're drafting Hockenstein in the 1st round .... Hopefully after a trade back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 The previous FO "outfoxed" Miami by offering him a contact structured in a way that made it very difficult for Miami to match. Then they celebrated when Miami didn't match it. As Miami watched us shoot ourselves in the foot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 https://content.jwplatform.com/previews/DeWhsBfX?exp=1550281440&sig=85138842d0df01f8bd3554d9a5e1b66b bye charles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Bills are definitely drafting a TE early. Good thing it's the best TE draft in at least a decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moulds_80 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: The most impact he ever made for the bills was the drop this year in Miami saving us 8 draft slots. Adios, bruh. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I actually think that Jason Croom is a good downfield receiver, and seems to go after the catch with some discernible talent. The Bills need to add, probably, a TE who can really block well, as well as be a receiving threat. I tend to believe that those assets are in the draft, on the first two days. The Bills are pretty thin in so many areas so I do not know if they will be able to spend treasure for such an asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, QCity said: The previous FO "outfoxed" Miami by offering him a contact structured in a way that made it very difficult for Miami to match. Then they celebrated when Miami didn't match it. As Miami watched us shoot ourselves in the foot. ...100% correct......MAJOR backfire IMO....think they expected Fins to match and eat up cap space though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Must mean we're drafting Hockenstein in the 1st round .... Hopefully after a trade back. He's TJ Hockenson and I think he will measure out at 6'5", 255 and if he runs a 4.65 at the combine and shows explosive standing broad jump and vertical leap he will be a sure top 10 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Must mean we're drafting Hockenstein in the 1st round .... Hopefully after a trade back. That's the idea. Hock @ 15 and find wr/online in 2-4 rounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 T.J. Hockenson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 good move never played up to his contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Charles Clay was decently productive. Was he worth the money - probably not. The man fought through injury after injury to find his way back on the field. I 100% applaud and appreciate his effort here. The QB's we've rolled out onto the field since he's been here has been embarrassing. We near the bottom of the league every year in passing offense and our problems have not been Charles Clay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I haven't heard anything that said Clay was a bad teammate, but he needed to go. Hope Clay kept the cash and calls it a career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, White Linen said: Charles Clay was decently productive. Was he worth the money - probably not. The man fought through injury after injury to find his way back on the field. I 100% applaud and appreciate his effort here. The QB's we've rolled out onto the field since he's been here has been embarrassing. We near the bottom of the league every year in passing offense and our problems have not been Charles Clay. ...good call on both points...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Adios Clay. Walk away with your wealth and your health while you can 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...good call on both points...... We had a tight end that put up Buffalo Bills WR numbers. I don't know what more they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Sal Cappacio's "Look at Free Agent Tight Ends" article was today. It's like he knew ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, HOUSE said: T.J. Hockenson Overrated, a 3rd round pick at best. Slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) WHAT.....I am shocked beyond belief Edited February 15, 2019 by HOUSE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I haven't heard anything that said Clay was a bad teammate, but he needed to go. Hope Clay kept the cash and calls it a career. He did miss the Raiders game that one year because his wife had a baby the day before the game ... [ducks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, wppete said: Good move. I wonder who they have in mind in Free agemcy. A couple guys make a lot of sense. Jesse James of the Steelers is probably my favorite. Jeff Huereman of the Broncos is pretty good as well. Maxx Williams would be cool but I think he's more of a #2. Tyler Higbee of the Rams is probably available via trade. He was drafted for Rob Boras when he was OC with the Rams and he currently serves as our tight ends coach. Rumors were the Rams wanted a sixth round pick for him. All young, bigger guys with upside. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, boater said: Sal Cappacio's "Look at Free Agent Tight Ends" article was today. It's like he knew It was published Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: Ice Cream Hole?? Chocolate is my favorite!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, White Linen said: We had a tight end that put up Buffalo Bills WR numbers. I don't know what more they want. ...despite hobbled, guy was a gamer...if I remember correctly, he was TT's favorite target.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: A couple guys make a lot of sense. Jesse James of the Steelers is probably my favorite. Jeff Huereman of the Broncos is pretty good as well. Maxx Williams would be cool but I think he's more of a #2. Tyler Higbee of the Rams is probably available via trade. He was drafted for Rob Boras when he was OC with the Rams and he currently serves as our tight ends coach. Rumors were the Rams wanted a sixth round pick for him. All young, bigger guys with upside. Tyler Kroft and a few other guys make sense too. I like Demetrius Harris of the Chiefs as well, but he's long and lean, very similar to Croom. We need a guy who can block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 This leaves Croom as the only contracted TE on the roster. Logan Thomas is an FA as well and I don't know if he showed the team enough for them to give him a new deal, unless they wanna bring him back to create competition. Solid year to be in the market for a TE, handful of good FAs and a great draft class. Someone mentioned Irv Smith and the 'Bama connection with Daboll and that makes a lot of sense. Whichever prospect compares the most to Greg Olsen is the guy I'd bet they go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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