1993 Bills - only team to beat last 3 SB champs?

[Dan Darragh]

[Forgive me if this topic has been discussed before...}

 

In 1993, the AFC East played the NFC East.  In week 2 the Bills beat Dallas on the road, in week 5 they beat the Giants at home, and in week 9 they beat the Redskins at home.

 

Is this the only time a team has defeated the SB champs from the 3 previous years in a single season?

[MJS]

Looks like you have some work to do in order to answer that question.

 

Let me know when you are done crunching the numbers.

[Big Turk]

Too bad they didnt beat them in the Super Bowls

[Nextmanup]

We always had a good record against top NFC talent in those years; the problem came when we matched up in the Superbowl and everything was on the line.

 

 

[BillsfaninChicago]

Yeah that should have been the payback year capped off with a Superbowl win in Atlanta. If only Hollywood endings exsisted!

[LSHMEAB]

1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said:

[Forgive me if this topic has been discussed before...}

 

 

The fact that the Bills played the NFC and their SB counterparts well in the regular season has been discussed for 25 years.

 

As someone said, let us know when you obtain the answer to your specific question.

 

 

Edited January 27, 2019 by LSHMEAB

[Ol Dirty B]

1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said:

[Forgive me if this topic has been discussed before...}

 

In 1993, the AFC East played the NFC East.  In week 2 the Bills beat Dallas on the road, in week 5 they beat the Giants at home, and in week 9 they beat the Redskins at home.

 

Is this the only time a team has defeated the SB champs from the 3 previous years in a single season?

 

Who cares. They were losers. Why do we try to create accomplishments for that era?

 

They went to 4 superbowls and they lost them all. That's it.

 

You old heads B word about participation trophies, but I've never seen more participation trophies created for any team than the superbowl losers.

Edited January 27, 2019 by Ol Dirty B

[C.Biscuit97]

I was young during that period but I remember thinking the Bills would always beat the team they would lost the SB to in the regular season.  I believe they had a crazy good regular season record against the NFC.  They just choked when it counted most.

[Ol Dirty B]

Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:

I was young during that period but I remember thinking the Bills would always beat the team they would lost the SB to in the regular season.  I believe they had a crazy good regular season record against the NFC.  They just choked when it counted most.

 

I'm pretty sure you are spot on their. I think they may have had the best regular season winning percentage of those years of any team.

[The Red King]

26 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Who cares. They were losers. Why do we try to create accomplishments for that era?

 

They went to 4 superbowls and they lost them all. That's it.

 

You old heads B word about participation trophies, but I've never seen more participation trophies created for any team than the superbowl losers.

 

Biggest comeback in NFL history.  Super Bowl champ is an honor shared with every other SB champion.  Only one team pulled off a 33-point comeback.  Or are you going to try and throw shade on that, too?

[Ol Dirty B]

7 minutes ago, The Red King said:

 

Biggest comeback in NFL history.  Super Bowl champ is an honor shared with every other SB champion.  Only one team pulled off a 33-point comeback.  Or are you going to try and throw shade on that, too?

 

Thanks for participating.

 

You really aren't making the greatest comeback worth more than a superbowl, are you? Please don't 

Edited January 27, 2019 by Ol Dirty B

[WotAGuy]

8 minutes ago, The Red King said:

 

Biggest comeback in NFL history.  Super Bowl champ is an honor shared with every other SB champion.  Only one team pulled off a 33-point comeback.  Or are you going to try and throw shade on that, too?

 

It was 32 points.  Shade thrown. 

[KD in CA]

56 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

You old heads B word about participation trophies, but I've never seen more participation trophies created for any team than the superbowl losers.

 

Sad but true.

[Another Fan]

Maybe try to take it a little easier on the OP.  Based on his/her point total the person is fairly new and was just trying to start a conversation.  Jmo!!

 

Anyway I’ve said it before I really don’t know how much better those Cowboy teams were than the Bills.  Especially in Super Bowl 28 (which is now almost 25 years ago to the day) Levy didn’t coach well.

 

The Patriots unfortunately may very well make it back next year which will make those 90s Bills team accomplishments seem even more extinct/insignificant 

[Livinginthepast]

1 hour ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Who cares. They were losers. Why do we try to create accomplishments for that era?

 

They went to 4 superbowls and they lost them all. That's it.

 

You old heads B word about participation trophies, but I've never seen more participation trophies created for any team than the superbowl losers.

As much as I loved that team, the players, the comeback and all the other great games and entertainment they gave me in those years, I cannot forgive them for losing those 4 SBs. The lack of poise, preparedness, discipline and clutch they showed in those games will forever haunt me. They should have won EVERY one of those SB games and they just choked as a unit (coaches and players) in all of them.

 

As for the Op's question. He's probably right about the Bills having that honour. No other team has made it to 4 in a row so beating the previous 3 winners in the season after the SB loss #3 would only be possible for them. I do remember that game in Dallas in 1993 when they beat the Cowboys 13-10 in a defensive struggle. In some ways I felt vindicated after all my Bills hating friends said they weren't in the same league as the Cowboys after the SB destruction. Then again it was like salt in the wound! The Bills could do it against a great team, just not when the pressure was maxed and it mattered!

[Success]

16 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said:

As much as I loved that team, the players, the comeback and all the other great games and entertainment they gave me in those years, I cannot forgive them for losing those 4 SBs. The lack of poise, preparedness, discipline and clutch they showed in those games will forever haunt me. They should have won EVERY one of those SB games and they just choked as a unit (coaches and players) in all of them.

 

As for the Op's question. He's probably right about the Bills having that honour. No other team has made it to 4 in a row so beating the previous 3 winners in the season after the SB loss #3 would only be possible for them. I do remember that game in Dallas in 1993 when they beat the Cowboys 13-10 in a defensive struggle. In some ways I felt vindicated after all my Bills hating friends said they weren't in the same league as the Cowboys after the SB destruction. Then again it was like salt in the wound! The Bills could do it against a great team, just not when the pressure was maxed and it mattered!

I don’t agree that they should have won all 4.  They absolutely should have won the first, and that likely would have led to a win against the Redskins.  It was too much in their head “not to be the Broncos” at that point, and they were way too tight for that game.

 

But those Cowboys teams were just better.  Bills should be 2-2, imo.

 

 

[LSHMEAB]

1 hour ago, Another Fan said:

Maybe try to take it a little easier on the OP.  Based on his/her point total the person is fairly new and was just trying to start a conversation.  Jmo!!

 

Anyway I’ve said it before I really don’t know how much better those Cowboy teams were than the Bills.  Especially in Super Bowl 28 (which is now almost 25 years ago to the day) Levy didn’t coach well.

 

The Patriots unfortunately may very well make it back next year which will make those 90s Bills team accomplishments seem even more extinct/insignificant 

I may be in the minority, but I'm fine with that particular legacy becoming extinct. You get pretty tired of hearing about the SB losses every time you tell someone you're a Bills fan. That was 25 years ago! Maybe if they can actually start winning games, the perception will change. What have we done since those SB losses? The correct answer is not a damn thing, which is why that's all we're known for. Winning cures all.

[Another Fan]

10 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

I may be in the minority, but I'm fine with that particular legacy becoming extinct. You get pretty tired of hearing about the SB losses every time you tell someone you're a Bills fan. That was 25 years ago! Maybe if they can actually start winning games, the perception will change. What have we done since those SB losses? The correct answer is not a damn thing, which is why that's all we're known for. Winning cures all.

Fair enough.  I saw my uncle not that long ago and when the Bills came up he mentioned, Yeah they were good like 30 years ago and even then they couldn’t get it done.

 

I didn’t like his condescending tone but I suppose he did have a point 

[LSHMEAB]

Just now, Another Fan said:

Fair enough.  I saw my uncle not that long ago and when the Bills came up he mentioned, Yeah they were good like 30 years ago and even then they couldn’t get it done.

 

I didn’t like his condescending tone but I suppose he did have a point 

Yeah. It sucks when it's relatives, but I find it even more annoying when it's just a casual acquaintance. "Oh, the Bills? That was a shame they lost all those Superbowls." They're not even trying to be d****. It's just the only thing we're known for. So then I gotta do the old awe shucks like it's a fresh wound. I'm thinking about 2019, not 1993.

[row_33]

4 hours ago, matter2003 said:

Too bad they didnt beat them in the Super Bowls

 

yeah, that was kind of of important..

[row_33]

2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I was young during that period but I remember thinking the Bills would always beat the team they would lost the SB to in the regular season.  I believe they had a crazy good regular season record against the NFC.  They just choked when it counted most.

 

they should have won the first one, choking is a bit harsh

 

they were hopelessly outmatched in the last 3

 

 

[Utah John]

How about some perspective.  Would you rather the Bills play in the SB every year and lose, or not make the playoffs at all for 19 straight years?  I would take the SBs. 

[LSHMEAB]

37 minutes ago, Utah John said:

How about some perspective.  Would you rather the Bills play in the SB every year and lose, or not make the playoffs at all for 19 straight years?  I would take the SBs. 

You know what John, that's a tough one. It really is. 19 straight Superbowl losses? With the benefit of hindsight? I think I might prefer obscurity over that!

 

I gotta pretty damn awful consecutive streak going for the only 3 teams I really care about. Detroit Tigers have lost their last two. Michigan Wolverine BASKETBALL has lost their last four. Bills have lost their last four. That's 10 in a row! This isn't some ancient history. This is all since 1991 when I was 11 and just getting into sports. So I'm pretty worn out by championship losses.

Edited January 27, 2019 by LSHMEAB

[Beast]

Nope.

 

The 1990 NY Giants beat the SF 49ers in the NFC Championship game ( SB 23 and 24 champs) and the Washington Redskins in the regular season. (SB 22 champs)

 

There May be more. That’s just off the top of my head.

Edited January 27, 2019 by Binghamton Beast

[CincyBillsFan]

I remember arguing with a friend that the Bills going to 4 straight SB's was an amazing achievement.  He countered that it wasn't such a big deal because they played in the weaker AFC. 

 

That bothered me so I did a little research and proved my friend wrong and showed just how WEIRD those Bills SB teams were.  The bottom line is that had the Bills played in the NFC they still might have gone to 4 straight SB's and lost every one of them to an AFC team - my proof:

 

During the 4 years the Bills went to the SB their inter-conference record against the NFC was an astonishing 14 - 2!  And this included beating a lot of NFC playoff teams!  This also included beating, ON THE ROAD, two teams (Giants & Cowboys) that would go on and beat them that year in the SB! 

 

Looking even closer the two losses were season ending games in which Buffalo HAD ALREADY clinched the home field advantage throughout the playoffs!  The Bills rested many of their starters in what were to Buffalo, meaningless games. 

 

The ONLY plausible explanation for the Bills SB losses is that someone put a hex on them. 

 

 

[Beast]

The 1992 Dallas Cowboys beat the previous 8 SB Champions.

 

That’s probably the record.

 

 

Edited January 27, 2019 by Binghamton Beast

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

If you add ‘that lost to said champs in the Super Bowl’, you do in fact have the one and only. 

[Protocal69]

How many times did the previous 3 Super Bowl champs come from the same division. 

 

That would be the reason why the BILLS are the team to do it because 3 previous Super Bowl winners coming from the same division is rare enough let alone playing all 3 in the same year especially playing out of conference. 

 

 

[vincec]

On 1/27/2019 at 11:09 AM, Dan Darragh said:

[Forgive me if this topic has been discussed before...}

 

In 1993, the AFC East played the NFC East.  In week 2 the Bills beat Dallas on the road, in week 5 they beat the Giants at home, and in week 9 they beat the Redskins at home.

 

Is this the only time a team has defeated the SB champs from the 3 previous years in a single season?

Win VS Dallas was without Emmitt Smith. As you saw in the Super Bowl, that mattered.

Edited January 28, 2019 by vincec

[Beast]

31 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:

The 1992 Dallas Cowboys beat the previous 8 SB Champions.

 

That’s probably the record.

 

 

 

I take this back.

 

The 1992 Dallas Cowboys beat the previous 12 Super Bowl Champions.

 

Yes, 12.

 

I believe that is a record that will never be broke.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

10 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Who cares. They were losers. Why do we try to create accomplishments for that era?

 

They went to 4 superbowls and they lost them all. That's it.

 

You old heads B word about participation trophies, but I've never seen more participation trophies created for any team than the superbowl losers.

Why are you a fan of such a “loser” franchise? If the SB years and winning all of those AFC titles and 13 wins per reg season sucked so bad, then just how miserable has it been during the drought, am I right? 

 

But I’m sorry that a fun team to watch that had a cutting edge O and brought it every week, and was the bane of Dan Marino’s existence, means nothing to you. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Which made it even more annoying to lose to those teams in the Superbowl when we showed we were capable of beating them in the regular season.

 

We really should have won two of those Superbowls, the first and the last.

 

 

 

 

[row_33]

12 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

I take this back.

 

The 1992 Dallas Cowboys beat the previous 12 Super Bowl Champions.

 

Yes, 12.

 

I believe that is a record that will never be broke.

 

The Pats 16-0 had to be one of the hardest regular season slates ever when you see the playoff teams they beat, especially on the road

 

that Miami team didn’t run into a single playoff team in the regular season

 

 

 

 

[Doc Brown]

15 hours ago, Success said:

I don’t agree that they should have won all 4.  They absolutely should have won the first, and that likely would have led to a win against the Redskins.  It was too much in their head “not to be the Broncos” at that point, and they were way too tight for that game.

 

But those Cowboys teams were just better.  Bills should be 2-2, imo.

 

 

It's impossible to tell.  The Redskins were the strongest team we faced in any of the Superbowls so I doubt we win that game.  Without the cloud hanging over our heads of losing two straight and then three straight Superbowls, we may have fared better against the Cowboys.  Especially our final Superbowl.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

If the Bills played  each of the 90 thru 94 Super Bowls 50 times, I think the results would be. 

 

Bills vs Giants     Bills 48 wins    Giants 2

Bills vs Redskins    Bills 40 wins    Redskins 10

Bills vs Cowboys    Bills 12 wins    Cowboys 38

Bills vs Cowboys.   Bills 12 wins    Cowboys 38

[SMAKCruiser]

5 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

If the Bills played  each of the 90 thru 94 Super Bowls 50 times, I think the results would be. 

 

Bills vs Giants     Bills 48 wins    Giants 2

Bills vs Redskins    Bills 40 wins    Redskins 10

Bills vs Cowboys    Bills 12 wins    Cowboys 38

Bills vs Cowboys.   Bills 12 wins    Cowboys 38

 

No chance they beat that Redskins team 40 out of 50 games.   

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

20 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

[Forgive me if this topic has been discussed before...}

 

In 1993, the AFC East played the NFC East.  In week 2 the Bills beat Dallas on the road, in week 5 they beat the Giants at home, and in week 9 they beat the Redskins at home.

 

Is this the only time a team has defeated the SB champs from the 3 previous years in a single season?

I might be mistaken, but I think Emmitt Smith was not playing in that game the Bills won.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

20 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

If the Bills played  each of the 90 thru 94 Super Bowls 50 times, I think the results would be. 

 

Bills vs Giants     Bills 48 wins    Giants 2

Bills vs Redskins    Bills 40 wins    Redskins 10

Bills vs Cowboys    Bills 12 wins    Cowboys 38

Bills vs Cowboys.   Bills 12 wins    Cowboys 38

say what???

 

https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/new-york-giants/teamvsteam?opp=4

 

take away the 1 SB and they are dead even at 6-6 

 

but to the point the Bills did have an impressive W/L record against the NFC in the rugular season for a few years. 

[ROCBillsBeliever]

14 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I remember arguing with a friend that the Bills going to 4 straight SB's was an amazing achievement.  He countered that it wasn't such a big deal because they played in the weaker AFC. 

 

That bothered me so I did a little research and proved my friend wrong and showed just how WEIRD those Bills SB teams were.  The bottom line is that had the Bills played in the NFC they still might have gone to 4 straight SB's and lost every one of them to an AFC team - my proof:

 

During the 4 years the Bills went to the SB their inter-conference record against the NFC was an astonishing 14 - 2!  And this included beating a lot of NFC playoff teams!  This also included beating, ON THE ROAD, two teams (Giants & Cowboys) that would go on and beat them that year in the SB! 

 

Looking even closer the two losses were season ending games in which Buffalo HAD ALREADY clinched the home field advantage throughout the playoffs!  The Bills rested many of their starters in what were to Buffalo, meaningless games. 

 

The ONLY plausible explanation for the Bills SB losses is that someone put a hex on them. 

 

 

 

CSM, my dude... he screwed us, back in the 90's:

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 minute ago, ROCBillsBeliever said:

 

CSM, my dude... he screwed us, back in the 90's:

 

 

and the bastard never dies