row_33 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Play another full quater of football- thats where I am at! Keep playing until the team I hate falls behind, then you can end the game 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 both teams get an equal number of offensive possessions 2 point conversions required after a TD all replays initiated from the booth 10 minute period, 4th quarter rules if tied after period, both kickers line up for a 40 yard FG. if both make, move back to 45, 50, 55, ..., until one kicker misses. if both kickers miss same distance, game regular season game is a tie. for post season, if both kickers miss same distance move back to previous kick spot and rekick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 hours ago, BuffaloButt said: The OT rule needs to change giving the other team an opportunity to match a TD scored. Falcons & Chiefs both lost due to a fricken coin toss! just stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: this isn't against you in particular (unless it does ) How this "argument" was similar / different with the Buffalo Miami OT game where TT had 300 yards passing and the Bills Lost. All they had to do was score and stop Miami on 2 (maybe 3) drives. Not sure where you're going with this. Bottom line is that football involves both offense and defense. You have the ball, it's on you to score. You don't have the ball, it's on you to stop them from scoring. Both games yesterday showed why D matters in the league. When you have to get a stop, your D needs to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 9 hours ago, FrenchConnection said: If you watched the Chiefs all year, outside of that one playoff game against the Colts they had to win every game in a shootout. Well, defense might not mean much in the modern NFL, but it sure as hell means something in overtime when you lose the coin toss. Chiefs used all their available cap space and draft capital on one side of the ball and paid the price today. Pretty much this. The Chiefs had the worst D of any of the final 4 teams and it showed yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 OT should be each team starts on the 50 yard line until the other team doesn't score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Not sure where you're going with this. Bottom line is that football involves both offense and defense. You have the ball, it's on you to score. You don't have the ball, it's on you to stop them from scoring. Both games yesterday showed why D matters in the league. When you have to get a stop, your D needs to step up. It reminded me of an argument I had with board members and OT that's all. To the BOLD - this brings up the in season threads we've seen (and recently) - Defense wins Championships. In the regular season Scoring wins out as entertaining (and the obvious W) But in the playoffs. It all comes down to the Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Put 15:00 on the OT clock and play til 0:00 for playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 They had all game for it to be fair. It's called winning it in regulation. Don't like OT rules, then win it in regulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: Nope. Stop them from going 75 yards Stop 3rd and longs. Nothing wrong with the rule. Kcs defence needed just to just make 1 more play and they couldn’t 4 of the highest scoring teams made the final 4 meaning nobody could stop them. You tell me where its fair for Mahomes to tie a football game in 30 some seconds just to never see the ball again in overtime? Its a simple fix, play a whole quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 maybe you should get on with your life now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Sorry I don't buy the "just play defense" argument. Were the Pats asked to "just play defense" and I somehow missed that? The NFL is actually a hilarious league, change all the rules in favor of the offensive side in regulation play then in OT, to determine the winner, the team that plays the better defense wins. Good stuff. Also, why not have it setup that teams KNOW who gets the ball first going into OT. Home team, better seed, most yards, anything. That way there is more incentive to finish the game BEFORE OT. A coin flip basically encourages a team to take a chance that they may get the ball first. Edited January 21, 2019 by Wayne Cubed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said: Sorry I don't buy the "just play defense" argument. Were the Pats asked to "just play defense" and I somehow missed that? The NFL is actually a hilarious league, change all the rules in favor of the offensive side of the ball in regulation play then in OT, to determine the winner, the team that plays the better defense wins. Good stuff. Great response Wayne Cubed, The AFC Champion was basically determined by the toss of a coin IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: Play another full quater of football- thats where I am at! boom....(just playoff games) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 11 hours ago, BuffaloButt said: The OT rule needs to change giving the other team an opportunity to match a TD scored. Falcons & Chiefs both lost due to a fricken coin toss! Rather than change the rules, change the way to determine who gets the ball. Instead of a coin toss, have a scrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Or make a stop on one of 5 3rd and long plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Steve O said: Rather than change the rules, change the way to determine who gets the ball. Instead of a coin toss, have a scrum. personally, i prefer Rock, Paper, Scissors. Edited January 21, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 WGR is whining a lot today about this. I don’t want to see a change unless it’s a full 15 minute standard play extra session. Otherwise Chiefs, hold the Pats to a FG and you have a chance. Too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Foxx said: personally, i prefer Rock, Paper, Scissors. Rock paper scissors is still a game of chance. At least there is some skill required in the scrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Or make a stop on one of 5 3rd and long plays Edelman for 20 Edleman for 15 Gronk for a first down Romo even called them in real time as they lined up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Put 15:00 on the OT clock and play til 0:00 for playoff games. So what happens when clock strikes 0:00 and the game is still tied. Excellent idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: So what happens when clock strikes 0:00 and the game is still tied. Excellent idea. keep playing until the team i irrationally hate falls behind could be here for two months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: Edelman for 20 Edleman for 15 Gronk for a first down Romo even called them in real time as they lined up Yup If you have a good defense it's almost an advantage to kick off. Get a 3 and out make them punt and get it back with great field possession needing only a FG to win it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 There are a few rules that need to be changed, but the rule allowing offensive picks on DBs is ruining the game. Picks were always penalties, but my guess is Kraft/ Bellichek got this changed for Tommy Tutu, under the disguise of more offensive points. We are going to be stuck watching Brady’s small ball for quite awhile. The Pats are masters of pick plays and Brady is better then anyone at it. You cant stop it, there’s no defense against it, especially if Tommy is accurate that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Yup If you have a good defense it's almost an advantage to kick off. Get a 3 and out make them punt and get it back with great field possession needing only a FG to win it how can NOBODY cover Edelman??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I'm the real issue is nobody generating pressure on Brady You have to hit him early and often. If you don't then you're in big trouble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: So what happens when clock strikes 0:00 and the game is still tied. Excellent idea. play another full 15:00 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 12 hours ago, BuffaloButt said: The OT rule needs to change giving the other team an opportunity to match a TD scored. Falcons & Chiefs both lost due to a fricken coin toss! I am all in favor of this and they can specifically call the new rule the "Patriots Rule"... The game was for the conference championship and the right to go to the Superbowl, played in front of a packed house of rabid fans, and it didn't look like a single person went home early. For Christ's sake, play an additional QUARTER of football and let's see who is winning at the end of it. If the score is STILL miraculously tied, PLAY ANOTHER ONE. They do it in hockey and baseball and games that go late become part of history. As fatigue sets in, play will probably break down, and cheap scores will be had anyway; I doubt many games, ever, would go beyond 1 full quarter of extra play. DO IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 11 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: I really don't see any reason why - in the playoffs - we don't simply play it NBA or soccer style and add on a normal 15 minute period. The chances of a tie after the additional period are low enough that it would probably resolve 80-90% of ties without anyone whining about "fairness." It can't be unfair because it's just a continuation of the same game with the same rules, not based on something random like which side a coin lands on. If it's tied after the additional period, well, that's when some other rule more arbitrary rule can come into play. This makes a lot of sense. For those that argue that the defense needs to make a stop...both defenses yesterday were giving up points, particularly in the 4th qtr. NE should have stopped KC from getting into field goal range with 39 seconds left to tie the game. So it came down to a coin flip as to whose offense got to touch the ball first. The same argument would apply if KC had won the toss and scored and NE didn't get to try to match it. A coin flip decided the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 12 hours ago, BuffaloButt said: The OT rule needs to change giving the other team an opportunity to match a TD scored. Falcons & Chiefs both lost due to a fricken coin toss! I’m not sure I’m in favor of any more rule changes that marginalize defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: So what happens when clock strikes 0:00 and the game is still tied. Excellent idea. Then we go 3 on 3 like the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Figster said: 4 of the highest scoring teams made the final 4 meaning nobody could stop them. You tell me where its fair for Mahomes to tie a football game in 30 some seconds just to never see the ball again in overtime? Its a simple fix, play a whole quarter. Defence is part of the game. Chiefs don't deserve to go to the SB if they can't stop a 75 yard drive with home field advantage and the weather elements on their side. Saints got the ball first in OT but lost because DEFENCE is still part of the game. No one mentions that though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 12 hours ago, row_33 said: The old way it was less than one percent favour to the coin toss winner taking the W, sometimes with multiple possessions but fans have a cognitive disorder that makes them think it was 90 percent of the time That is also what I remember. But the issue comes up when a team never gets the ball which does happen. I see it from both sides, even if statistically it does not show much, it seems fair that both teams should get the ball. In that game yesterday no one could stop anyone once the fourth quarter started so it seemed like whoever won the coin toss got an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 12 hours ago, Cmdjr85 said: Lol, Na. Play better defense. Make a stop. Both the chiefs and falcons LOST BECAUAE THEY COUDNT MAKE A STOP. BOTH THE CHIEFS AND FALCONS HAD OVER 90 PLAYS RAN ON THEM. Valid point, but the rule changes in favor of the offense has accelerated so much in the past few years it doesn't seem fair that a team doesn't get a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Foxx said: just stop. I think many people are on board with changing the rules some: 49 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: So what happens when clock strikes 0:00 and the game is still tied. Excellent idea. Play another quarter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 No, don’t need to change any OT rules. PS. ***** the Chiefs, ***** Andy Reid, ***** Mahomes, ***** Sammy, and most especially ***** each and every one of those a-holes doing the tomahawk chop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I think many people are on board with changing the rules some: ... that is an altogether different issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Foxx said: that is an altogether different issue. OK 1 hour ago, papazoid said: boom....(just playoff games) How about for regular season games each team gets the ball once regardless if first team scores a TD? After that if there is no score next score wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Nope just need your defense to make a play. It's still a team game. If you allow the team to drive down the field 75 yards and score a touchdown you deserved to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I'm sure had the Chiefs won the Bills fans that are complaining wouldn't be. I find it really funny how angry Bills fans get cause the Pats won. Maybe some of you need to take a break from football if it upsets you that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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