YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Bills sit one spot ahead of Denver Update on Alex Smith status: https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/profootballdoc/sd-sp-pfd-alex-smith-leg-surgery-recovery-return-redskins-0121-story.html Edited April 24, 2019 by YoloinOhio 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Depending on who’s available at nine, this could be great 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Bills sit one spot ahead of Denver Moving down to 15. Might be worth doing if the guy Beane wants is projected to be there. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Bills are in a great position to trade down, if they are willing to drop out of the top 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) I don't think it's "may" personally. Living in the DC area, I think it's pretty obvious just based on the attitudes around here that the Redskins will likely be extremely desperate to make a splash of some sort, whether that's trading for a guy like Antonio Brown or, more likely IMO, trying to move up to take Haskins, who brings triple value to the Redskins as: A legitimately good QB prospect (even if I think he's overrated) A cheap QB while they're stuck paying Alex Smith to not play football A local kid that can excite the fan base Kyler Murray could be an option for them as well as he would undoubtedly bring excitement to the team, but I'm not sure they'll want to go that route after watching RGIII's leg fall off. Edited January 17, 2019 by DCOrange 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 ‘Mr. Rosen Goes to Washington’? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Teams will be willing to overpay to get their QB. I'd love to see the bills trade back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 If you can get another first or second round pick then absolutely 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 That's a deal I'd take. There'll still be a quality player at 15 available that will fill a real need. I'm not sure that the Redskins will be comfortable just being one spot above Denver unless they are willing to gamble and wait till draft day and we are on the board. Honestly I think they'll try and do something similar to what the Jets did last year and get a top 3 pick locked in. That way they also get ahead of the Giants and Jags (and Bucs who might go QB as well) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Bills sit one spot ahead of Denver Denver has a need there ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 so it's safe to say that the Skins are not sold on Josh Johnson? 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, Foxx said: so it's safe to say that the Skins are not sold on Josh Johnson? Or Sanchise believe it or not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Derek Anderson may be available here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 In a few mocks they have them trading up. It got me wondering how many QBs will go in the top 10? I think CBS' new mock has 2, but then 2 more after #9. The more demand for QBs, the better for the Bills. Either someone is willing to trade for #9, or it will push other high quality players available at their pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 We need the best OT possible. Whether we move up or down. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Or Sanchise believe it or not Maybe they need to bring Rex into coaching staff so he can work with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I think Washington is our best possible trade partner. 1) It allows us to move down and accumulate assets while still being in potential blue chip territory and 2) it would mean multiple QBs are gone before we pick. If the Giants or Jags are sold on Haskins or Murray, I have a real hard time believing they won't move up to 1 or 2. The Cardinals basically said the pick is on the block the moment the season ended, they need a lot and they know it. But if Washington (or even Miami, though a in division trade seems less likely) wants to get Haskins / Murray, they might run into what we were rumored to be up against last year with the Giants, ie a team at the top not wanting to go all the way down to 15, which could allow us to be an intermediary. IMO best case scenario is Haskins / Murray go top 7, Washington moves with us at 9 to get Lock or Jones. Denver or Miami take whoever is left. We pick at 15, pick up either a 2nd or a 1st next year with 4 of the first 14 picks being QBs. That potentially leaves us looking at someone like Oliver / Jonah Williams / Devin White etc at 15. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Maybe they need to bring Rex into coaching staff so he can work with him. I was just watching clips of him throwing TDs in foxboro and beating Brady in the playoffs. Hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I was just watching clips of him throwing TDs in foxboro and beating Brady in the playoffs. Hard to believe. Like a lot of QBs they can get hot but unable to sustain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 The stars may be aligning! The Redskins are the kind of idiotic franchise that would give up WAY too much to move up. A move to 15 and their second rounder and I would blow my load. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Yes - this is why I was so worried when we went through that whole draft tiebreakers thing with Denver So glad that didn't go to a coin flip! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 45 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: We need the best OT possible. Whether we move up or down. Move UP for LT?? Yikes. Anyway, move down and let the Redskin blow the pick on a tiny QB who will leave them to play baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Move UP for LT?? Yikes. Anyway, move down and let the Redskin blow the pick on a tiny QB who will leave them to play baseball. Nah, want that tiny QB to be gone and want the Redskins to freak out and overpay for Blaine Gabbert 2.0 or homeless man's version of Matt Ryan from Duke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 9 and a 4th for 15, their 2nd and one of their 3rds is a deal that I’d do in a heartbeat. This would give the Bills 5 players before the end of day 2. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: I don't think it's "may" personally. Living in the DC area, I think it's pretty obvious just based on the attitudes around here that the Redskins will likely be extremely desperate to make a splash of some sort, whether that's trading for a guy like Antonio Brown or, more likely IMO, trying to move up to take Haskins, who brings triple value to the Redskins as: A legitimately good QB prospect (even if I think he's overrated) A cheap QB while they're stuck paying Alex Smith to not play football A local kid that can excite the fan base Kyler Murray could be an option for them as well as he would undoubtedly bring excitement to the team, but I'm not sure they'll want to go that route after watching RGIII's leg fall off. Not sure Redskins fans will want to watch their team trade up for a QB again and mortgage their next three years. Not a comment on RGIII but I'd be curious what they would have to give up here to even go for it. That being said, I don't see how any of the QBs are actual first round grades in this draft beyond the position they play...but at least one maybe two will likely go in the first just for that reason alone. Is Alex Smith done for good? I get it's doubtful he comes back, but I feel like them trading up this year is dependent on FA and Smith's med status. Edited January 17, 2019 by ctk232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) I want Beane to get the most absolute value he can out of this top 10 pick, whether that's landing a blue chip player or swindling some extra picks. It’s gonna be the last top 10 pick he's going to get for a while without having to trade up for it. Edited January 18, 2019 by transient 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Would love to see Denver trade up to 9 with Buffalo, to secure a QB. It has happened before, where a team just moves up 1 spot because another team may trade to that spot and take their guy. Then Buffalo could trade down from 10 to 20 or so. They could use their extra picks to move up in any round they wanted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Bills sit one spot ahead of Denver Played out this scenario in my offseason thread I made last weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Bills sit one spot ahead of Denver Great news the pick may be marketable. We’ve seen this front office can find solid starters in the late half of the first round. 11 minutes ago, transient said: I want Beane to get the most absolute value he can out of this top 10 pick, whether that's landing a blue chip player or swindling some extra picks. It gonna be the last top 10 pick he's going to get for a while without having to trade up for it. Hope so Edited January 17, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Bills trade 9th overall pick to the Redskins for the 15th and 46th picks... Bills trade 15th overall pick to Raiders for 24th, 27th and 66th picks... Bills now own two 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks, two 3rd round picks, two 4th round picks and two 5th round picks 1. 1. 2. 2. 3. 3. 4. 4. 5. 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Move UP for LT?? Yikes. Anyway, move down and let the Redskin blow the pick on a tiny QB who will leave them to play baseball. Brilliant if you don't give up too much for a Joe Thomas, not so much for an Eric Fisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Bills trade 15th overall pick to Raiders for 24th, 27th and 66th picks... Pass the pipe... 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, mannc said: Pass the pipe... These are the Raiders. Everything is in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, FeelingOnYouboty said: These are the Raiders. Everything is in play. The Raiders would not trade those picks for number 9, much less 15. Gruden is stupid, but not that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, mannc said: The Raiders would not trade those picks for number 9, much less 15. Gruden is stupid, but not that stupid. He totally IS that stupid though lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, ctk232 said: Not sure Redskins fans will want to watch their team trade up for a QB again and mortgage their next three years. Not a comment on RGIII but I'd be curious what they would have to give up here to even go for it. That being said, I don't see how any of the QBs are actual first round grades in this draft beyond the position they play...but at least one maybe two will likely go in the first just for that reason alone. Is Alex Smith done for good? I get it's doubtful he comes back, but I feel like them trading up this year is dependent on FA and Smith's med status. I think we may ultimately see 4 QBs in the first round again this year honestly. Wouldn't be shocked at all if all of Haskins, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, and Drew Lock go in the first. Should be interesting; seems like teams are much higher on Haskins than I personally am, but I think I'm higher on Jones and Lock than most are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Redskins may well be looking at Kyler Murray, especially given Snyder's proclivity to make a splash. Will he be available at 9 is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Chuck Wagon said: I think Washington is our best possible trade partner. 1) It allows us to move down and accumulate assets while still being in potential blue chip territory and 2) it would mean multiple QBs are gone before we pick. If the Giants or Jags are sold on Haskins or Murray, I have a real hard time believing they won't move up to 1 or 2. The Cardinals basically said the pick is on the block the moment the season ended, they need a lot and they know it. But if Washington (or even Miami, though a in division trade seems less likely) wants to get Haskins / Murray, they might run into what we were rumored to be up against last year with the Giants, ie a team at the top not wanting to go all the way down to 15, which could allow us to be an intermediary. IMO best case scenario is Haskins / Murray go top 7, Washington moves with us at 9 to get Lock or Jones. Denver or Miami take whoever is left. We pick at 15, pick up either a 2nd or a 1st next year with 4 of the first 14 picks being QBs. That potentially leaves us looking at someone like Oliver / Jonah Williams / Devin White etc at 15. I really don’t think McBeane is afraid of the Fire Everyone crowd on TBD. I’ve said elsewhere I would not be at all surprised to see them add picks for next year if the value is there. Unless you’re afraid of losing your job, you do what’s best long term. I think they are comfortable enough to be open to picks next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Redskins may well be looking at Kyler Murray, especially given Snyder's proclivity to make a splash. Will he be available at 9 is the question. He can play for the nationals too, why not. Actually they would probably never want to share the splash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I think we may ultimately see 4 QBs in the first round again this year honestly. Wouldn't be shocked at all if all of Haskins, Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, and Drew Lock go in the first. Should be interesting; seems like teams are much higher on Haskins than I personally am, but I think I'm higher on Jones and Lock than most are. I could see the potential for that depending on how FA shakes out with a couple teams. Not sure what's happening with Foles and Flacco, but could think of a couple teams named the Jags and Phish that might make a play at either. I just think that the BPA talent is so heavily defensive leaning for the top 32 that I don't know if any teams are willing to forego specific talent to reach for a QB not necessarily graded for the first round overall in the pool. Much less the equivalent of a round 1 QB comparable to most other years. All four will go, but don't be surprised to see one or two drop beyond the first - the hype on Haskins and Murray might be enough to ink them a first round consideration though, despite my personal disagreement with that. That being said, totally wouldn't mind seeing all four of them go in the first 8 picks and watching the likes of Greedy or Allen fall to us... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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