papazoid Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Of the top 50 telecasts since the start of the 2018 season, 46 were NFL games. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25670107/nfl-television-ratings-rose-5-percent-2017 who says the NFL is dying ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, papazoid said: who says the NFL is dying ? A bunch of hillbilly rednecks who never really watched and took interest in football to begin with. 10 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I think the NFL is in good shape but I wonder about ticket and concession sales league wide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, papazoid said: Of the top 50 telecasts since the start of the 2018 season, 46 were NFL games. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25670107/nfl-television-ratings-rose-5-percent-2017 who says the NFL is dying ? Anthem drama, CTE news, oversaturation in commercials (dilly fuggin dilly, the Verizon weasel looking dude, and God friended me scar my brain) and the ****show that is nfl officiating all suck but... It's football. It's too popular and entertaining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I am watching more football now than ever before. The bad teams are becoming good and the good teams are becoming bad. Excited to see teams like the Bills and Browns show so much promise. I hope the Steelers and Patriots end up as bottom feeders for the next 20 years. I am so tired of them to the point of not even wanting to watch their games anymore, I mean we all know who is going to win, it's bad for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, papazoid said: Of the top 50 telecasts since the start of the 2018 season, 46 were NFL games. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25670107/nfl-television-ratings-rose-5-percent-2017 who says the NFL is dying ? A couple of people that saw Kaep take a knee... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I wonder if this had anything to do with the networks not broadcasting every single freaking game's national anthem to show who was kneeling. Wouldn't surprise me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 This is where I find the league's (see: Lizard Face Jones and Donald Kraft) focus on new stadium revenue to be hilariously about extracting money from the pockets of small markets as a punitive reaction to "unfair" profit sharing when in reality, this league is more and more a TV league. The tiny amount of new revenue from new stadiums is dwarfed by TV revenue yet this endless throbbing knob for new stadiums is stupid. The money is in TV contracts and ad revenue. The stadium experience, imo, is getting worse and worse around the league (STH and I get to a road game a year) as they bombard you with ads and noise and ads and noise and ads and noise during every stoppage. $11 beers are stupid. I used t get a beer or two every game, think I bought one the entire season. I don't need a 24 ounce beer in September that'll be pizz warm in the 80 degree heat before I am half done. $5 waters. No thanks. That's my entire group of 9 people. No one hardly buys anything anymore, it's gotten stupid. So as more and more teams try to extract every penny from their STHs and fans in the stadium, I expect numbers to dwindle. I would be curious, however, to know how much the rate of increase is due to new households watching? If say 500K new households were formed last year, how many of those watched? Put another way, how much is due to more viewers than an actual increase in the percentage of viewers from the prior years' number of households? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17years&waiting Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Personally, my interest is way up this year over the previous few seasons. I think it's the new guard of QB's: Goff, Wentz, Mahomes, Allen, Mayfield, Darnold, etc. Last season (2017) I watched the Bills and not much else, because I was definitely losing interest. It's boring to watch the same teams (Patriots, Steelers, Packers) win all the time. I still think the NFL has some BIG problems they need to address: -Pace of Game: I was at New Era Field Sunday and I had forgotten how annoying commercial breaks are in the Stadium. They are bad enough on my couch in front of the TV. I know the NFL is soaking up every last penny it can, but it really drags down the overall interest. -Officiating: It bothers me that I know the name of almost all the refs in the NFL. I take that as a sign that I see their faces waaaay too much. The rule changes, the constant penalties, the 5 minute instant replay reviews multiple times a game is really wearing. And of course, the inconsistency of the refereeing is probably the biggest problem. -In-stadium experience: this kind of goes with Pace of Game, but I think they need to prioritize making the experience of the fans at the games more. Which to me means: more football, less commercials. Cheaper to attend. I hope the NFL addresses these issues, but I'm not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 38 minutes ago, CajunBillsBacker said: A bunch of hillbilly rednecks who never really watched and took interest in football to begin with. Ah yes. It's 2018, better take a swipe at rural America. I would guess that all of the new QB prospects had somethimg to do with it, especially in markets starving for excitement like Buffalo, Cleveland, and Arizona. I think that has more impact than the lack of anthem protests, but I could be wrong. If I am wrong, wouldn't that mean that these terrible, horrible, no good, very bad "hillbilly rednecks" did in fact take interest to begin with, since they came back to equal 5% of total viewership? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 NFL Ad Revenues Up Nearly 4% Advertising on NFL games for the five ad-supported TV networks are up 3.6% this year through 16 weeks of the season. Through December 23, the NFL took in $3.71 billion, up from $3.58 billion a year ago, according to iSpot.tv. https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/329800/nfl-ad-revenues-up-nearly-4-this-fall.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, zonabb said: This is where I find the league's (see: Lizard Face Jones and Donald Kraft) focus on new stadium revenue to be hilariously about extracting money from the pockets of small markets as a punitive reaction to "unfair" profit sharing when in reality, this league is more and more a TV league. The tiny amount of new revenue from new stadiums is dwarfed by TV revenue yet this endless throbbing knob for new stadiums is stupid. The money is in TV contracts and ad revenue. The stadium experience, imo, is getting worse and worse around the league (STH and I get to a road game a year) as they bombard you with ads and noise and ads and noise and ads and noise during every stoppage. $11 beers are stupid. I used t get a beer or two every game, think I bought one the entire season. I don't need a 24 ounce beer in September that'll be pizz warm in the 80 degree heat before I am half done. $5 waters. No thanks. That's my entire group of 9 people. No one hardly buys anything anymore, it's gotten stupid. So as more and more teams try to extract every penny from their STHs and fans in the stadium, I expect numbers to dwindle. I would be curious, however, to know how much the rate of increase is due to new households watching? If say 500K new households were formed last year, how many of those watched? Put another way, how much is due to more viewers than an actual increase in the percentage of viewers from the prior years' number of households? May I upvote you ten more times and vote for you for President? I’ve said this a couple of times and this should not only be repeated, but spread nationally. these cathedrals are ridiculous. Never stop adding ways to make money, except this nonsense that we have to have death star type stadiums. Edited January 3, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, JimKellyTryouts said: Anthem drama, CTE news, oversaturation in commercials (dilly fuggin dilly, the Verizon weasel looking dude, and God friended me scar my brain) and the ****show that is nfl officiating all suck but... It's football. It's too popular and entertaining. I agree with all of this and each one loses some people but i stopped watching this year because i expected the Bills to be bad and officiating was so absurd the previous year. Both i expect to be fully rectified next year and i will be back. I do think ticket sales slid this year which might be a hit in the pocketbook for teams but not one owner is selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, zonabb said: This is where I find the league's (see: Lizard Face Jones and Donald Kraft) focus on new stadium revenue to be hilariously about extracting money from the pockets of small markets as a punitive reaction to "unfair" profit sharing when in reality, this league is more and more a TV league. The tiny amount of new revenue from new stadiums is dwarfed by TV revenue yet this endless throbbing knob for new stadiums is stupid. The money is in TV contracts and ad revenue. The stadium experience, imo, is getting worse and worse around the league (STH and I get to a road game a year) as they bombard you with ads and noise and ads and noise and ads and noise during every stoppage. $11 beers are stupid. I used t get a beer or two every game, think I bought one the entire season. I don't need a 24 ounce beer in September that'll be pizz warm in the 80 degree heat before I am half done. $5 waters. No thanks. That's my entire group of 9 people. No one hardly buys anything anymore, it's gotten stupid. So as more and more teams try to extract every penny from their STHs and fans in the stadium, I expect numbers to dwindle. I would be curious, however, to know how much the rate of increase is due to new households watching? If say 500K new households were formed last year, how many of those watched? Put another way, how much is due to more viewers than an actual increase in the percentage of viewers from the prior years' number of households? 10 years ago when you were buying those $7 beers there was someone 10 years older wondering who the people were that were paying $7 for a frickin' beer! The concession lines are less busy individually but with the added space from the renovation there are more of them and the young people keep buying those beers. Thankfully the concourses are actually negotiable now. One additional reason teams want a new stadium is a larger footprint to make it easier to sell food/drink/merchandise..........ideally without not entirely leaving the game experience the way you have to now in the upper and lower decks.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, papazoid said: NFL Ad Revenues Up Nearly 4% Advertising on NFL games for the five ad-supported TV networks are up 3.6% this year through 16 weeks of the season. Through December 23, the NFL took in $3.71 billion, up from $3.58 billion a year ago, according to iSpot.tv. https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/329800/nfl-ad-revenues-up-nearly-4-this-fall.html But...but....Goodell sucks!!!! Why don't they fire him???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Attendance was its worst in a long time, I assume they count tickets sold as some games were barely a third filled. So one podcast last week suggested in the near future that Amazon could propose the rights to a prime time game each week, along with the Super Bowl, easily offer twice the highest current package to the NFL. In order to watch you would download an app that will collect data off you for Amazon’s use. this will be interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, papazoid said: Of the top 50 telecasts since the start of the 2018 season, 46 were NFL games. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25670107/nfl-television-ratings-rose-5-percent-2017 who says the NFL is dying ? Good. Now how about doing something for the fans like giving them 30% off on game tickets next year? After all ratings are up and they want to show us appreciation.....right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, LABillzFan said: I wonder if this had anything to do with the networks not broadcasting every single freaking game's national anthem to show who was kneeling. Wouldn't surprise me. Have to echo your sentiment. It was obvious to me and anyone else who was paying attention. It seems like all they would talk about the last year or two. This year, they just didn’t talk about it or show it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Good. Now how about doing something for the fans like giving them 30% off on game tickets next year? After all ratings are up and they want to show us appreciation.....right? That's a weird way of viewing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 45 minutes ago, row_33 said: Attendance was its worst in a long time, I assume they count tickets sold as some games were barely a third filled. What are you basing this off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 That's impressive since cord cutting and streaming continues to increase. The NFL did a better job with getting better matchups for TNF and MNF. Emergence of young and talented quarterbacks, increased scoring, and legalized sports betting in some states pry also helped. Plus, boycotts never last long term when you have a decent product on the field. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 hours ago, papazoid said: Of the top 50 telecasts since the start of the 2018 season, 46 were NFL games. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25670107/nfl-television-ratings-rose-5-percent-2017 who says the NFL is dying ? having all the new QBs and with high powered offenses is the likely reason. but i choose to believe its ALL ALLEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: Have to echo your sentiment. It was obvious to me and anyone else who was paying attention. It seems like all they would talk about the last year or two. This year, they just didn’t talk about it or show it. Probably true and extremely brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I guess people like lots of points. Couple that with the new QBs that have entered the league and you've got a lot more interest overall. I'm excited about the new breed of QBs like Mahomes, Allen, Mayfield, Goff, Darnold etc. because I've grown tired of the old guard like Brady, Brees and Rodgers. The insane amount of points does annoy me, but I guess I'm just old. When I was first watching you probably had people who grew up in the 60s saying there was too much passing and points in the 80s. I totally get that times change, and I understand they have to protect players, but I wish they'd ease up on some of these penalties. A defensive struggle can be such an exciting thing to watch, especially come playoff time, but I guess most people now want to see offenses moving up and down the field with ease, especially when they're watching redzone and checking how their fantasy players are doing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: What are you basing this off? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 9 hours ago, papazoid said: who says the NFL is dying ? Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 10 hours ago, JimKellyTryouts said: Anthem drama, CTE news, oversaturation in commercials (dilly fuggin dilly, the Verizon weasel looking dude, and God friended me scar my brain) and the ****show that is nfl officiating all suck but... It's football. It's too popular and entertaining. If you don't like it, then don't watch. The NFL in 2018 was exciting. There was the rise of young superstars like Mahomes and "super offenses"like the Chiefs, Rams, and Saints early in the season, and then toward the end of the season, there came the resurrection of teams that had been left of dead earlier in the season: Houston (0-3), Indy (1-5), Baltimore, and Philly. Plus Baker Mayfield made the Cleveland Browns exciting and relevant, Matt Nagy took the Bears from worst to first, and Andrew Luck returned from injury to be the QB he was supposed to be when he was drafted. Not only were teams playing for playoff spots right up to the final Sunday, the last playoff berth was determined in the very last game, #256, on Sunday night, not to mention that lots of individual games were edge-of-your-seat back and forth contests like that awesome 54-51 Monday nighter between the Rams and Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 11 hours ago, CajunBillsBacker said: A bunch of hillbilly rednecks who never really watched and took interest in football to begin with. 1) cajun = worse then redneck, good job, bocephus. 2). Great, let's knock rural and middle America - aka the majority of the country 3) what an uneducated and unfortunate comment. 4) where is your proof for such a ststement that it was them? Pretty much, think before you talk. Or better yet, just don't. It makes you look bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: 1) cajun = worse then redneck, good job, bocephus. 2). Great, let's knock rural and middle America - aka the majority of the country 3) what an uneducated and unfortunate comment. 4) where is your proof for such a ststement that it was them? Pretty much, think before you talk. Or better yet, just don't. It makes you look bad. For the king of sarcasm you don’t get sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: That's impressive since cord cutting and streaming continues to increase. The NFL did a better job with getting better matchups for TNF and MNF. Emergence of young and talented quarterbacks, increased scoring, and legalized sports betting in some states pry also helped. Plus, boycotts never last long term when you have a decent product on the field. It made a big difference. The NFL must have had some come to Jesus moment this past off season and the media got on board. There weren't a ton of bad calls that we're over exposed, they were moved on from. The drama that was the NFL soap opera of the last 3 years was forgotten and moved on to the field where players played. There were fewer issues with broadcast teams, with ESPN Fielding the worst possibly conceived. The commentators commentated and people are finally tuning out the instigators and assclowns who throw bull#### in to the game because honestly, I feel like people miss football. I definitely do and I'm hoping the playoffs can give me momentum for 2019. Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: For the king of sarcasm you don’t get sarcasm. That wasn't sarcasm. And if it was I don't know who they are to care to know their general posting personality. Disirregardless, many will agree with clown A and think it has to do with some discourse of rural America hating on billionaire minorities who scream oppression. But, this is too much topic drift in a direction that always goes sideways and ruined the NFL for the last 3 years. Here's hoping clowns can keep their shows in the circus and away from the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumaro02 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 The NFL ratings are up because those patriots who were turned off by the player's anthem protests in 2017 wandered back in because there were no visible anthem protests in 2018 except a very small minority... and those were not put on TV screens front and center. The NFL did a good job of minimizing its effects. If the anthem protests start up again in 2019, I can guarantee that those patriots who left last year to cause a deep dip in the ratings will leave again and maybe this time for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, tumaro02 said: The NFL ratings are up because those patriots who were turned off by the player's anthem protests in 2017 wandered back in because there were no visible anthem protests in 2018 except a very small minority... and those were not put on TV screens front and center. The NFL did a good job of minimizing its effects. If the anthem protests start up again in 2019, I can guarantee that those patriots who left last year to cause a deep dip in the ratings will leave again and maybe this time for good. Correct! I wouldn’t have initially agreed with this take but after talking with quite a few random fans I found it to true. Both old and young were really turned off by the kneeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) It's got nothing to do with anthems. The league got smarter this year and put better games in primetime. They realized a large portion of their diehards consume Sunday daytime games through Redzone, which gave them the ability to put some of the garbage games together in a window that would still provide entertainment and focused on putting interesting games at night by themselves, especially Thursday night. This was by far the best season of Thursday night football. Some real gems this year: http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2018/TNF Edited January 3, 2019 by Chuck Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: That wasn't sarcasm. And if it was I don't know who they are to care to know their general posting personality. Disirregardless, many will agree with clown A and think it has to do with some discourse of rural America hating on billionaire minorities who scream oppression. But, this is too much topic drift in a direction that always goes sideways and ruined the NFL for the last 3 years. Here's hoping clowns can keep their shows in the circus and away from the NFL It was a harmless comment. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 13 hours ago, LABillzFan said: I wonder if this had anything to do with the networks not broadcasting every single freaking game's national anthem to show who was kneeling. Wouldn't surprise me. I think you're right. Out of sight, out of mind. My guess is that a few key commercial sponsors spoke plainly with each network about what they needed to continue advertising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 QB's stayed healthier (rule changes) gambling through fantasy sports better product on field via fun high powered offences constant influx of fresh new faces especially at QB. better primetime matchups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 hours ago, SoTier said: If you don't like it, then don't watch. there are, by the millions... and a lot of us on here have noted minimal interest in any game but the Bills the last few years... the sport is dead, like boxing, in 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Does it break down each category? I thought I read that the day games, TNF and SNF were up, but that MNF was down like 2% Edited January 3, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 NFL partners with Caesars Entertainment in first casino sponsorship http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25675553/nfl-partners-caesars-entertainment-first-casino-sponsorship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 40 of 50 most-watched sporting events in 2018 were NFL games https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/40-of-50-most-watched-sporting-events-in-2018-were-nfl-games/ar-BBRL7t0?ocid=spartanntp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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