Augie Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 hours ago, NewEra said: Yeah I keep seeing that we pick 10th .....anyone no for sure? I haven’t read ahead for a sure answer, but I think I heard it’s a coin flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, Augie said: I haven’t read ahead for a sure answer, but I think I heard it’s a coin flip. Thanks. Yeah I saw we had the same SoS, so I figured it was a flip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskibreth Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Jonah WIlliams. He's a rare talent, and an automatic success at the next level. If Williams won't drop to our pick, then trade back, get some extra picks, and draft BPA down the line. I think you're better off trying to fill the O-line vet free agents who know how to block in this league already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Whoever can help our offense. A lineman, WR, TE or maybe even if the situation warrants a RB. But it would have to be a borderline Saquon Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) I keep hearing that Jonah Williams is better suited to play guard. I think that might be true of Dawkins as well. Greg Little is supposedly the most talented LT, but folks question his desire to play football. What happens in free agency will obviously dictate a lot. The oline absolutely has to be a priority, but the value is defense at the top of the draft. I'd take a Josh Allen for the defense if he is there, but he probably won't be. I like DK Metcalf at wr, but #9 is too early. Edited December 31, 2018 by Dr. Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Zebrastripes said: No you wouldn't. You would see teams trade out of their high picks instead of take multiple qbs. Look how many high picks habe been traded for over the years. This is something the BPA crowd conveniently ignores. Trades. Instead of just picking the BPA at their draft slot, you see plenty of teams trading. And with a trade, you have 2 teams scorning the BPA mantra. One that says “there no BPA at our slot, so let’s pick later” and one that says “I want that player now (almost always one of a need) because they’ll be no BPA when we pick later”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Give me the best offensive tackle, wide receiver, or 3-technique left on the board and I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Steptide said: Trade down, aquire more picks, get a wr in the late teens or early 20s This please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Edmunds is our MLB he isnt kicking outside. He has sideline to sideline speed and the brains to run the D. No actually when they take a QB the QB usually isnt BPA so your thinking is kinda backwards. Edmunds lacks the instinct and physicality for MLB. He is big and fast, but doesn't shed blocks well and gets fooled by the run a lot. I think he would be better utilized on the outside with his speed. It's like taking a college RB and telling them to play QB at the pro level. 2 hours ago, NewEra said: No, I’d be happy with 5 2nd rd picks and 5 3rd rd picks. ? Bills need some 1st round talent on both lines. If tackles weren't a need I would say this would work, but unfortunately the whole line needs to be retooled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr. Who said: I keep hearing that Jonah Williams is better suited to play guard. I think that might be true of Dawkins as well. Greg Little is supposedly the most talented LT, but folks question his desire to play football. What happens in free agency will obviously dictate a lot. The oline absolutely has to be a priority, but the value is defense at the top of the draft. I'd take a Josh Allen for the defense if he is there, but he probably won't be. I like DK Metcalf at wr, but #9 is too early. Williams can play OT in the NFL at a high level and I really have very little doubt about it...He's got the best footwork I've see in a while...His technique is almost spotless...He mirrors so well, sinks his hips when bull-rushed...Even when a DE gets the edge on him he's usually so quick with his feet he's able to recover no problem...And when he gets to the 2nd level in the run game he can be a mauler...At this point he's by far the best OT prospect in this Draft...Little is no where near Jonah...He can certainly slide into OG in his Rookie year if that's what a team wants to do with him...And he'll be real good there too...But IMHO he's going to be an OT long-term...If he's there at #9, and I was Beane, it's a no-brainer...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 best offense availible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 27 minutes ago, Trogdor said: Edmunds lacks the instinct and physicality for MLB. He is big and fast, but doesn't shed blocks well and gets fooled by the run a lot. I think he would be better utilized on the outside with his speed. It's like taking a college RB and telling them to play QB at the pro level. Bills need some 1st round talent on both lines. If tackles weren't a need I would say this would work, but unfortunately the whole line needs to be retooled. Which is why I’d rather have multiple picks. Lots of holes. I just don’t think Williams or little are top 10 worth OT’s. I dont think there are any top 20 worthy WRs or TEs. Our biggest needs. I don’t want to reach for them so I’d rather trade down and get them where they belong while adding more picks. I believe the BPA will likely be a DL. I’d prefer not to spend our best draft pick on a DL this offseason. I get BPA, and if we have a choice between Oliver and Little, I’m taking Oliver all day, but I’d just rather not have to make the choice and trade down to stockpile more picks. The more potential starters we can can draft and have on a 4-5 year rookie contracts the better. Hitting on those picks is the key to building a championship contender imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Trogdor said: Edmunds lacks the instinct and physicality for MLB. He is big and fast, but doesn't shed blocks well and gets fooled by the run a lot. I think he would be better utilized on the outside with his speed. It's like taking a college RB and telling them to play QB at the pro level. Bills need some 1st round talent on both lines. If tackles weren't a need I would say this would work, but unfortunately the whole line needs to be retooled. Yup it looked that way Sunday didnt it. I guess you just know more about LBs than McD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Yup it looked that way Sunday didnt it. I guess you just know more about LBs than McD. I really like Edmunds, but he looks out of place and doesn't seem to be improving. He is big and fast but his technique is subpar. His biggest advantages play well to the outside in space. I'm glad one game against a terrible offense changes that though. The whole team feasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Dont care as long as they dont whiff. They have done a decent job the past few years in the early rounds. No long term projects please. If they can trade down and get good draft value that is ok too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: This is incorrect. Right. So if the Giants have the top-ranked running back as the #1 player on their board at 6 and you’re the Giants, you’d take the running back there? You think the Chiefs will take a QB if they have one ranked super high when they pick? Maybe we’ll take a safety. The hard line “BPA” people are always amusing. It’s not a thing. No one actually drafts that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 15 hours ago, KOKBILLS said: Williams can play OT in the NFL at a high level and I really have very little doubt about it...He's got the best footwork I've see in a while...His technique is almost spotless...He mirrors so well, sinks his hips when bull-rushed...Even when a DE gets the edge on him he's usually so quick with his feet he's able to recover no problem...And when he gets to the 2nd level in the run game he can be a mauler...At this point he's by far the best OT prospect in this Draft...Little is no where near Jonah...He can certainly slide into OG in his Rookie year if that's what a team wants to do with him...And he'll be real good there too...But IMHO he's going to be an OT long-term...If he's there at #9, and I was Beane, it's a no-brainer...? I was recapitulating analyses I have read and heard from other members here. I certainly don't know. If Williams is truly an elite LT, he should be the first option in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 23 hours ago, rodneykm said: Absolutely this. Trading down is always the right answer, unless you are picking near Top 3 and have to get a guy like a QB who only goes in the top 3. McBeane have already demonstrated, however, that they don't understand this and in fact, like to trade UP. So it will be interesting to see what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Trading down is always the right answer, unless you are picking near Top 3 and have to get a guy like a QB who only goes in the top 3. McBeane have already demonstrated, however, that they don't understand this and in fact, like to trade UP. So it will be interesting to see what they do. One draft where franchise qb was the main target is not a lot of sample size. Then, Edmunds fell to a place where Beane felt it was worth moving up again. Trade ups this year would more strongly indicate a penchant, but I wouldn't rule out a trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 BPA, with the exception of QB and RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Dont want anyone who quit on their teammates and skipped a bowl game. In my opinion that is a character concern. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Take your pick. We need a lot of offensive players. Whoever is the best one available. Trade down if possible. 20 hours ago, Trogdor said: Edmunds lacks the instinct and physicality for MLB. He is big and fast, but doesn't shed blocks well and gets fooled by the run a lot. I think he would be better utilized on the outside with his speed. It's like taking a college RB and telling them to play QB at the pro level. He's a freaking 20 year old rookie. Have patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Official list shows us picking 10th, not 9th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coffin Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Official list shows us picking 10th, not 9th. Where you seeing this? I'm on NFL.com right now shows we are 9th, as does every other website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I’ve seen 4 lists that were titled official, and all had us 10th. I haven’t looked today though, that was yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I’ve seen 4 lists that were titled official, and all had us 10th. I haven’t looked today though, that was yesterday. I believe the final listing has us at the ninth position. However, I'm not going to say you are wrong because I also saw lists having us draft at the ten spot. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001006117/article/2019-nfl-draft-order-cardinals-own-top-pick-giants-to-take-qb Edited January 1, 2019 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 7:47 AM, ******* said: Top half of the draft looks very defense heavy in talent. Would you be ok with going defense at 9 trade back? Pass rusher at 9 would be fine if a couple QBs go in the top 8. Otherwise trade down and take best WR,C, or G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 The best WR in the draft, D.K. Metcalf. Best comparison I can think of is Andre Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, JohnC said: I believe the final listing has us at the ninth position. However, I'm not going to say you are wrong because I also saw lists having us draft at the ten spot. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001006117/article/2019-nfl-draft-order-cardinals-own-top-pick-giants-to-take-qb Weird wonder why its so inconsistent...the lists yesterday kept saying "final official" too. Well I hope its 9 then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Weird wonder why its so inconsistent...the lists yesterday kept saying "final official" too. Well I hope its 9 then I believe some of the tie breaking calculations such as strength of schedule were complicated. So until the last games were played at night the ranking status for a few teams were still undetermined. So right now I believe we are in the ninth spot. But I won't say it with conviction. On the other hand does it really matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) There’s a good chance 2 QBs go top 10, yet you don’t see any Mock drafts predicting that. Josh Allen Devin White Rashan Gary Jonah Williams Jeffery Simmons in that order Edited January 1, 2019 by 1ZAYDAY1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I would love to see us draft edge rusher Josh Allen from Kentucky. But he will most likely be gone before #9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: The best WR in the draft, D.K. Metcalf. Best comparison I can think of is Andre Johnson. I like Metcalf. As of right now, you could probably trade down and get him later in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 no worries..9 is my lucky number so no matter who we draft that will be a HOFer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Is Josh Allen a better fit for a 3-4 defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 8:59 AM, Yav said: N’Keal Harry. Without a doubt N’Keal Harry! This guy is worth the 9th pick. Total stud WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 28 minutes ago, WNY said: Without a doubt N’Keal Harry! This guy is worth the 9th pick. Total stud WR. Not even close. He's barely a first round pick who won't get separation in the NFL and won't win all those contested catches in the pro's either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr. Who said: I like Metcalf. As of right now, you could probably trade down and get him later in the first. Won't be the case come April. He's already projected to Buffalo @ #9 in a few mock drafts. His stock will not dip after the pre-draft process. I'm supremely confident in that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Re-post this thread in March when it will be much more relevent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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